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Being sellers at the deadline would be disappointing and disgusting. It would anger the clubhouse and alienate the fans. I am certain that Breslow realizes that.
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This is the mistake we have made for several years now. Not trading guys who are going to walk after the season and all we get are low ranked draft picks.

 

No.

 

The mistake was doing nothing at all…

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What do we gain by going to the playoffs and losing in the wild card game????

 

 

Wild card game?

 

There have been updates to the playoff format…

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Sure we should trade one or even 2 of our top 3 prospects for this year’s Andrew Cashner. How did that work out?

 

How did Schwarber & Robles work out?

 

How did Nate and Pearce work out?

 

It’s a dice roll.

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This is the mistake we have made for several years now. Not trading guys who are going to walk after the season and all we get are low ranked draft picks.

 

Big, Big difference this year compared to the last two years. Right now on July 7 the Red Sox are in the postseason, and unless they go into a big tailspin the next 3 weeks they will stay that way come trade deadline. Selling , and not trying to make the Red Sox better would be a slap in the face to all the paying customers, and a gut punch to all the players, and coaches in the Red Sox clubhouse. Also once again a LOSER attitude. 🤭🙈

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Big, Big difference this year compared to the last two years. Right now on July 7 the Red Sox are in the postseason, and unless they go into a big tailspin the next 3 weeks they will stay that way come trade deadline. Selling , and not trying to make the Red Sox better would be a slap in the face to all the paying customers, and a gut punch to all the players, and coaches in the Red Sox clubhouse. Also once again a LOSER attitude. 來

 

I agree. Pitching, pitching and more pitching is needed.

 

Yesterday, we went ahead 4-3 and had no ammo left due to taxing the pen the prior two games. Yeah, game then got out of hand. Greg Weissert is falling off the cliff.

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I think Brez watch is ticking faster, and faster as the trade deadline rapidly approaches, and what will the Rookie HOBO do? Sell? Buy? Oh no, not that third option in the fork in the road again. Stay tuned boys and girls it could be a wild bumpy ride for some.
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The Rockies DFAd Dakota Hudson today.

 

Hudson is surprisingly not injured, but rather just having a horrible year, highlighted by his 48:46 K:BB ratio and 5.84 ERA.

 

But the one thing that intrigues me about Hudson is he’s never been a particularly hard thrower, and rather gotten by with his breaking stuff. Could this be a formula Bailey can tap into for some success?

 

Also intriguing - his ERA away from Coors - 3.72….

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I think Brez watch is ticking faster, and faster as the trade deadline rapidly approaches, and what will the Rookie HOBO do? Sell? Buy? Oh no, not that third option in the fork in the road again. Stay tuned boys and girls it could be a wild bumpy ride for some.

 

Nobody in Red Sox Nation wants Breslow to fork off.

 

And it doesn't really do any good at this point to wait a week or two to pick a lane. This is the roster. Casas and Hendricks may contribute, but because of their specific injuries, it's unreasonable to expect either to be as good as new this summer. Tris isn't coming back to swivel with reckless abandon for the fences and Liam won't be throwing as fast as the past -- maybe next year.

 

So pick a lane -- which won't bitch: buy or sell? I always want the Red Sox to improve, but if the owner won't allow them to take on added salary, then dump anyone they're not planning to invest in. Just don't wait until one minute before midnight August 1st, thinking offers will be better then. You might wake up the next morning and be Bloom.

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Sox attendance is almost exactly what it was last year, so apparently the 2024 Sox fans who go to Fenway Park--and spend huge sums of money in so doing--don't care whether the Sox win or lose. I think they don't like rooting for a whole bunch of no-names. Nobody on the Sox got significant ASG votes.

 

As for acquiring fresh blood this month, I agree it makes sense. And, by the way, offseason trades/acquisitions have been no more intelligent or useful than in-season.

 

I would love to see a good starter, but the Sox have had horrendously bad luck in that category. Eovaldi was terrific in 2018, but he didn't start. Peavy in 2013 was OK, nothing more.

 

I would also like to see a good righty bat, especially someone who gets doubles.

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I don't know if the Rangers will be sellers, but if they are a Sox reunion with Eovaldi might not be a bad idea. And it should not take one of the top prospects to get him.
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I don't know if the Rangers will be sellers, but if they are a Sox reunion with Eovaldi might not be a bad idea. And it should not take one of the top prospects to get him.

 

Definitely a solid add…

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Definitely a solid add…

 

An Eovaldi reunion in Boston would be great, but MLB might forbid it.

 

You see, FOX Sports denies that Nate ever existed as a Red Sox -- at least, they do in every Red Sox-Yankee game they telecast.

 

In FOX facts, the entire postseason history of Boston-New York begins with the Babe and ends with Big Papi; 2018 and 2021 never happened, the Sox aren't 4-1 vs NY in their most recent playoff games, and Eovaldi never wiped out the Yanks in both the Bronx and Fenway.

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Definitely a solid add…

 

This is Eovaldi's 14th MLB season. He has lasted a full season exactly twice--2014 and 2021. This year he missed 4 weeks in May. However, 5 days ago he was excellent vs San Diego: 1 hit, 0 runs, 7 IP, 92 pitches, 6 K's. And last year he was excellent in the postseason.

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This is Eovaldi's 14th MLB season. He has lasted a full season exactly twice--2014 and 2021. This year he missed 4 weeks in May. However, 5 days ago he was excellent vs San Diego: 1 hit, 0 runs, 7 IP, 92 pitches, 6 K's.

 

An injury risk for only 2 months is probably worth it. It’s not like they need to extend him to a 3 or 4 year deal here…

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This is Eovaldi's 14th MLB season. He has lasted a full season exactly twice--2014 and 2021. This year he missed 4 weeks in May. However, 5 days ago he was excellent vs San Diego: 1 hit, 0 runs, 7 IP, 92 pitches, 6 K's. And last year he was excellent in the postseason.

 

Every year Eovaldi was in the postseason he was excellent.

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Every year Eovaldi was in the postseason he was excellent.

 

He also has a $20mill option that vests with another 76 IP…

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Sox attendance is almost exactly what it was last year, so apparently the 2024 Sox fans who go to Fenway Park--and spend huge sums of money in so doing--don't care whether the Sox win or lose. I think they don't like rooting for a whole bunch of no-names. Nobody on the Sox got significant ASG votes.

 

As for acquiring fresh blood this month, I agree it makes sense. And, by the way, offseason trades/acquisitions have been no more intelligent or useful than in-season.

 

I would love to see a good starter, but the Sox have had horrendously bad luck in that category. Eovaldi was terrific in 2018, but he didn't start. Peavy in 2013 was OK, nothing more.

 

I would also like to see a good righty bat, especially someone who gets doubles.

 

much of the attendance does hope they lose, as many are fans of the visiting team and not the Sox. almost unheard of in years past.

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much of the attendance does hope they lose, as many are fans of the visiting team and not the Sox. almost unheard of in years past.

 

That’s 100% true. More, and more visiting teams fans take over Fenway the past few years. Total attendance isn’t down, but total of Red Sox fans are. You are right that it didn’t used to be that way. JH doesn’t care as long as there is asses filling the seats. He’ll take anyone’s money. Yours, mine, and theirs.🤫

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Sox attendance is almost exactly what it was last year, so apparently the 2024 Sox fans who go to Fenway Park--and spend huge sums of money in so doing--don't care whether the Sox win or lose. I think they don't like rooting for a whole bunch of no-names. Nobody on the Sox got significant ASG votes.

 

As for acquiring fresh blood this month, I agree it makes sense. And, by the way, offseason trades/acquisitions have been no more intelligent or useful than in-season.

 

I would love to see a good starter, but the Sox have had horrendously bad luck in that category. Eovaldi was terrific in 2018, but he didn't start. Peavy in 2013 was OK, nothing more.

 

I would also like to see a good righty bat, especially someone who gets doubles.

 

Nate didn’t start in 2018?

 

Huh?

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I heard management state that the fans should come to Fenway for the whole experience, not just to see the team win.
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I heard management state that the fans should come to Fenway for the whole experience, not just to see the team win.

 

that sounds like something Oakland A's ownership would say. our team sucks but hey....it's a great experience.

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Which CONTENDER needs Jansen the most. How about the Boston Red Sox?

 

In a rare moment, I agree here…

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That’s 100% true. More, and more visiting teams fans take over Fenway the past few years. Total attendance isn’t down, but total of Red Sox fans are. You are right that it didn’t used to be that way. JH doesn’t care as long as there is asses filling the seats. He’ll take anyone’s money. Yours, mine, and theirs.

 

You are so full of it.

 

Total attendance absolutely and irrefutably is down.

 

Average attendance this year (32,366), last year (32,989), and 2022 (32,408) has been consistent and below what it was before covid.

 

In the five seasons before covid it was 36,564 in 2015 (when the Sox finished last in the AL East), 36,486 in 2016 (when the Sox won the AL East), 36,020 in 2017 (when the Sox won the AL East), 35,747 in 2018 (when the Sox won the AL East, the WS and more games, 108, in the regular season than in any other season in Sox history), and 36,106 in 2019 (when the Sox did not make the postseason despite the biggest payroll in MLB).

 

Now, hold onto your seats, sports fans.

 

In 2012 average attendance was 37,567, which could have been doctored, but not by much. That was Bobby Valentine's monster team, 69-93, and you couldn't keep Sox fans away from Fenway. They had Pedey, Big Papi, AGon, Aviles, Ross, Nava, Saltalamacchia, Lester, Tazawa, Buchholz, Miller, et al. They stunk to high heaven, but the stands were full.

 

Six years later came the 2018 Sox, the best Sox team in history with 108 wins plus an 11-3 record in the postseason and of course the WS. They were loaded with talent: MVP Mookie, JDM, Beni, Bogey, JBJ, Holt, Pearce, Moreland, Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Kimbrel, Wright, Eovaldi, et al.

 

But the 2018 best Sox team ever averaged 2000 fewer fans per game than the 2012 Sox, easily the worst Sox team in the JH era.

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You are so full of it.

 

Total attendance absolutely and irrefutably is down.

 

Average attendance this year (32,366), last year (32,989), and 2022 (32,408) has been consistent and below what it was before covid.

 

In the five seasons before covid it was 36,564 in 2015 (when the Sox finished last in the AL East), 36,486 in 2016 (when the Sox won the AL East), 36,020 in 2017 (when the Sox won the AL East), 35,747 in 2018 (when the Sox won the AL East, the WS and more games, 108, in the regular season than in any other season in Sox history), and 36,106 in 2019 (when the Sox did not make the postseason despite the biggest payroll in MLB).

 

Now, hold onto your seats, sports fans.

 

In 2012 average attendance was 37,567, which could have been doctored, but not by much. That was Bobby Valentine's monster team, 69-93, and you couldn't keep Sox fans away from Fenway. They had Pedey, Big Papi, AGon, Aviles, Ross, Nava, Saltalamacchia, Lester, Tazawa, Buchholz, Miller, et al. They stunk to high heaven, but the stands were full.

 

Six years later came the 2018 Sox, the best Sox team in history with 108 wins plus an 11-3 record in the postseason and of course the WS. They were loaded with talent: MVP Mookie, JDM, Beni, Bogey, JBJ, Holt, Pearce, Moreland, Sale, Price, Porcello, ERod, Kimbrel, Wright, Eovaldi, et al.

 

But the 2018 best Sox team ever averaged 2000 fewer fans per game than the 2012 Sox, easily the worst Sox team in the JH era.

The point is more visiting teams fans are coming to Fenway then ever before, so what you get for a count on a given night isn’t all Red Sox fans. It didn’t used to be that way, so in other words less Red Sox fans are going to Fenway these days.

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