Bloom fired

[notin]

Getting Click would be very interesting. He does have some experience winning, so...

 

He’s Bloom 2.0…

[Deja Doh]

The team can hire anyone who can count and do just as well as any of these insider retread GM types. A team is just that. It's not just a bunch of guys. The team needs to be able to get along, and be willing to play for each other. I'm available. More low OBP isn't going to get it done.

[Old Red]

He’s Bloom 2.0…

 

🤭🙈🤭.

[moonslav59]

He’s Bloom 2.0…

 

Would Bloom bashers be okay with Bloom 2.0?

[Bellhorn04]

Would Bloom bashers be okay with Bloom 2.0?

 

Now there's a good honest question.

 

Click has a championship on his resume, at least.

[moonslav59]

Now there's a good honest question.

 

Click has a championship on his resume, at least.

 

Let's see, if we can get some straight forward answers.

[Bellhorn04]

Let's see, if we can get some straight forward answers.

 

Sure, you can just start a poll - If Click is Bloom 2.0, are you in?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Would Bloom bashers be okay with Bloom 2.0?

 

Put it this way: if Nostradamus told us that a new CBO was about to lead Boston to the following: '24 last place, '25 ALCS, '26 last place, '27 last place -- you might need to borrow NASA's Deep Space Communications Dish (that detects faint radio signals from distant spacecraft) to hear any Sox fan cheering, "Four More Years!

[mvp 78]

Looking at who HAS interviewed, both internal and external - it definitely looks like Boston is using this as a chance to take some 30,000 foot view of how the org is running ...

 

- Pitching development

- The scouting vs analytics components for the winning recipe

 

Huntington is particularly interesting, with some real GM experience as well as experience developing pitching.

 

Within two weeks of assuming the Pirates GM position, Huntington made several decisive moves on October 5, 2007: field manager Jim Tracy was fired; the remaining coaching staff was given notice that their contracts would likely not be renewed; and the senior director of player development, the scouting director, and the director of baseball operations were also let go.

[mvp 78]

Sure, you can just start a poll - If Click is Bloom 2.0, are you in?

 

Is he as ineffective and indecisive at trades and FA as Bloom? If so, then that's a hard pass. Click did trade for Vaz in HOU at the deadline, right?

[notin]

Now there's a good honest question.

 

Click has a championship on his resume, at least.

 

 

And he got fired right after. That means he’s also Dombrowski 2.0!!

[mvp 78]

And he got fired right after. That means he’s also Dombrowski 2.0!!

 

He got fired for feuding with ownership and the manager. He wanted Vaz to get more playing time down the stretch (the guy who caught a no hitter and who was just traded for) but the manager didn't feel like it. He got to the league wide GM meetings and vented his grievances publicly over winning a WS, but only being offered a one year extension and being massively underpaid. Crane then fired him.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

In 18 minutes, one poster just provided evidence for why Boston will never hire two ex-GMs with rabble-rousing experience...

 

... that's why he's MVP (I can't even get GG votes, unless I raise my BA).

[Old Red]

Would Bloom bashers be okay with Bloom 2.0?

 

You mean like Cora? The funny part is when you called me, and others bashers you didn’t know Cora was the ring leader, who had a direct path to JH’s ear, and I believed he used that path more than once, and that had something to do with Bloom getting fired when he did.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Old Red

[notin]

He got fired for feuding with ownership and the manager. He wanted Vaz to get more playing time down the stretch (the guy who caught a no hitter and who was just traded for) but the manager didn't feel like it. He got to the league wide GM meetings and vented his grievances publicly over winning a WS, but only being offered a one year extension and being massively underpaid. Crane then fired him.

 

He also really only got the job because Luhnow was fired after the cheating scandal.

 

In that respect, he might like Cora. Of course, he also might be leery of the PR in a reunion.

 

It does appear the Sox aren’t…

[Bellhorn04]

You mean like Cora? The funny part is when you called me, and others bashers you didn’t know Cora was the ring leader, who had a direct path to JH’s ear, and I believed he used that path more than once, and that had something to do with Bloom getting fired when he did.

 

Damn Cora, not getting Bloom fired after 2022!

[Elktonnick]

Damn Cora, not getting Bloom fired after 2022!

Cora proved he is not only a cheater but a backstabbing sob as well. No wonder few competent highly qualified baseball executive outside of the the organization have agreed to an interview. Between the Red Sox byzantine front office bureaucracy, a mercurial owner and a manager protected by ownership who will undercut you at the slightest opportunity, no self respecting exec would want to work for this fubar organization.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why such venom for the Underdogs?

[Hugh2]

 

"am I doing it right Mr. journalist"

[Bellhorn04]

Why such venom for the Underdogs?

 

nick really does bring the venom.

[Old Red]

Damn Cora, not getting Bloom fired after 2022!

 

Really that’s the best you can come up with? Bloom was just getting his feet wet two years in, but after four years he was in over his head, and drowned.

[Old Red]

nick really does bring the venom.

 

The good, or the bad is how much of what he said was true?

[mvp 78]

In 18 minutes, one poster just provided evidence for why Boston will never hire two ex-GMs with rabble-rousing experience...

 

... that's why he's MVP (I can't even get GG votes, unless I raise my BA).

 

There's no way Huntington would be able to do that kind of turnover in Boston. Maybe it was requested? Maybe he feels it wouldn't be needed? The Pirates are an awfully different franchise than the Red Sox. His GM experience would be substantially different here. He was fleeced in a few trades, but did turn the Bucs into a winner for a brief moment.

 

I don't think Henry would cheapen out on his staff the way HOU does. I think Bloom was given a lot of leeway in a way that any HOU GM would never be given. Click should have been more professional and kept his mouth shut, but I believe he was severely chafed at where he was professionally at the time.

 

Both candidates are flawed for sure. Click may be a more exciting choice, but I don't know if either does it for me. The Sox really needed a guy like Gomes.

 

Of all the non-internal candidates interviewed so far, the only really interesting one is Breslow IMO. He's a big unknown though.

[mvp 78]

He also really only got the job because Luhnow was fired after the cheating scandal.

 

In that respect, he might like Cora. Of course, he also might be leery of the PR in a reunion.

 

It does appear the Sox aren’t…

 

At this point, Cora has managed through 3 seasons AFTER his suspension. Houston faced barely any consequences. MLB tried its darndest to make it a nothing burger. I think a reunion with Lunlow would be a story, but not so much with Click.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

What -- no love for a CBO who won't improve his club because he considers them "underdogs" -- even though he's the one who assembled a roster bad enough to make them underdogs?

[moonslav59]

You mean like Cora? The funny part is when you called me, and others bashers you didn’t know Cora was the ring leader, who had a direct path to JH’s ear, and I believed he used that path more than once, and that had something to do with Bloom getting fired when he did.

 

We are talking about Click maybe being Bloom 2.0.

 

Why continually repeat the Cora thing over and over like facts, and what does it have to do with Click?

[mvp 78]

Cora proved he is not only a cheater but a backstabbing sob as well. No wonder few competent highly qualified baseball executive outside of the the organization have agreed to an interview. Between the Red Sox byzantine front office bureaucracy, a mercurial owner and a manager protected by ownership who will undercut you at the slightest opportunity, no self respecting exec would want to work for this fubar organization.

 

Yeah, I'm going to disagree with this bolded part...

[notin]

We are talking about Click maybe being Bloom 2.0.

 

Why continually repeat the Cora thing over and over like facts, and what does it have to do with Click?

 

He’s trying to rub in that Bloom failed and completely missing that not one single person seems to be even the least bit upset that Bloom is gone…

[mvp 78]

What -- no love for a CBO who won't improve his club because he considers them "underdogs" -- even though he's the one who assembled a roster bad enough to make them underdogs?

 

But if Cora complains about it then he's a backstabber? Is that the story?

[mvp 78]

He’s trying to rub in that Bloom failed and completely missing that not one single person seems to be even the least bit upset that Bloom is gone…

 

Would the Bloom Brigade please stand up and protect your boy?!?!? No takers?