2023 Free Agents

[a700hitter]

Not getting excited about a guy who has been with 5 teams and had a 4.47 ERA last year. That is a nothing move. It does nothing to improve the team.

You clearly don’t understand the process of a genius in building a team.

[Tedballgame]

Now they trade for Hoy Park who hit .216 last year with the Pirates. These moves are killing me. Horrible.

[Tedballgame]

That’s about a league average ERA but the underlying metrics are better. He generates swings and misses and batters don’t hit him hard. He’s a tweak of his control away from being an elite reliever, and I’d not he’s a decent 6th inning guy. Either or makes the team better. It’s a good low risk high upside move.

 

Every team makes moves like this, bullpens are so Volatile year to year many elite relievers fit this mold before they figure out. Sox did it with Andrew Miller, maybe they can do it again.

 

He’s costing 1.5 million. What do y’all expect a middle reliever to get paid. That’s a bargain.

 

1.5 million for a guy that sucks is not a bargain.

[a700hitter]

Now they trade for Hoy Park who hit .216 last year with the Pirates. These moves are killing me. Horrible.

Trust the genius.

[Hugh2]

1.5 million for a guy that sucks is not a bargain.

 

I’m sorry, how much are you paying a 6th inning pitcher? Btw his era is roughly league average. Saying he sucks is a massive stretch. Not surprisingly

[moonslav59]

The Red Sox have traded for infielder Hoy Park, who has a career OPS+ of 74 in 210 MLB plate appearances as the South Korea native approaches his 27th birthday in April:

 

 

Word is, we will flip him & Duran to the Ms for Winker.

[a700hitter]

Word is, we will flip him & Duran to the Ms for Winker.

I don’t know where you saw that word, but that would be interesting.

[iortiz]

Trust the genius.

 

Bloom is really on a very thin ice. He's starting to load the team with bums.

[moonslav59]

I don’t know where you saw that word, but that would be interesting.

 

I was just bustin' harm's errr...

 

Word is, they do want an OF'er.

[harmony]

Word is, we will flip him & Duran to the Ms for Winker.

The mystery is how Baseball Trade Values assigns a value of $5.9 million for Jarren Duran with a projected 2023 wRC+ of 93 while assigning a value of $3 million to Taylor Trammell, a plus defender who is a year younger than Duran and who is projected with a 2023 wRC+ of 101. However, Duran has six years of team control and Trammell only five.

 

Duran would fall behind Trammell, Jesse Winker, Jarred Kelenic and Cade Marlowe on Seattle's current depth chart of lefthand-hitting outfielders.

Edited November 24, 2022 by harmony

[notin]

Now, I really like this acquisition. Three years of Joely. A jolly jolly good time.

 

If they DFA Ort, it’s worth it…

[Kimmi]

You clearly don’t understand the process of a genius in building a team.

 

Stay the course, Chaim, stay the course.

[cp176]

It seems like just the other day a few moves were made around this time of year that pushed the Sox over the top. To date - nothing 0. You would think that some kind of real move will have to be made that actually will help the team. I liked us more when we had a lot of good players.

[Bellhorn04]

The good news is, Chaim hasn't spent much of that pot of available money yet.

 

As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.

[notin]

Now they trade for Hoy Park who hit .216 last year with the Pirates. These moves are killing me. Horrible.

 

Not only did they trade for him, they publicly said he’s replacing Bogaerts!!!

 

Or maybe they didn’t and he’s a guy that will struggle to hold a utility infielder position…

[notin]

The mystery is how Baseball Trade Values assigns a value of $5.9 million for Jarren Duran with a projected 2023 wRC+ of 93 while assigning a value of $3 million to Taylor Trammell, a plus defender who is a year younger than Duran and who is projected with a 2023 wRC+ of 101. However, Duran has six years of team control and Trammell only five.

 

Duran would fall behind Trammell, Jesse Winker, Jarred Kelenic and Cade Marlowe on Seattle's current depth chart of lefthand-hitting outfielders.

 

Or… he wouldn’t.

 

Let’s say Seattle ranked those outfielders from worst to best. Then Duran would be ON TOP of their depth chart. That’s right. Numero Uno. It’s all about perspective.

 

But if Seattle did that, suddenly that trade looks just a little better, doesn’t it?

[notin]

The good news is, Chaim hasn't spent much of that pot of available money yet.

 

As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.

 

Neither has anyone else. The biggest free agent names off the board so far are Tyler Anderson, Martin Perez and Joc Pederson…

[Bellhorn04]

Neither has anyone else. The biggest free agent names off the board so far are Tyler Anderson, Martin Perez and Joc Pederson…

 

I know. Is it going to be another of those offseasons where people start muttering about collusion?

[notin]

I know. Is it going to be another of those offseasons where people start muttering about collusion?

 

Or… it’s only Thanksgiving (Happy Thanksgiving, btw) and the off-season is rarely in any sort of motion yet anyway. Last year was a bizarre outlier because teams were rushing to make moves before the lockout. I do actually wonder if Rangers GM Chris Young started his lockout by reflecting on his flurry of moves and saying “Wait… I paid Corey Seager how much?”

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The good news is, Chaim hasn't spent much of that pot of available money yet.

 

As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part.

 

Tom also said, never slow down, never grow old.

 

Man, have I aged the past three winters...

[notin]

I think slow off-seasons are the norm these days.

 

I don’t expect very many major moves until after the New Year…

[Bellhorn04]

Or… it’s only Thanksgiving (Happy Thanksgiving, btw) and the off-season is rarely in any sort of motion yet anyway.

 

I'm just trying to find something more interesting to complain about...

[notin]

I'm just trying to find something more interesting to complain about...

 

 

Well, the Sox are very likely to sign a slew of players to MiLB contracts starting soon. You could act like each one was the sole focus of the front office and maybe even throw around the phrase “lightning in a bottle” a few times every time the Sox grab a 26yo minor league pitcher.

 

The key to selling it is to de-emphasize the “minor league” aspect of the contract. In fact, never mention it at all and act like it’s a multiyear MLB deal…

[Hugh2]

Well, the Sox are very likely to sign a slew of players to MiLB contracts starting soon. You could act like each one was the sole focus of the front office and maybe even throw around the phrase “lightning in a bottle” a few times every time the Sox grab a 26yo minor league pitcher.

 

The key to selling it is to de-emphasize the “minor league” aspect of the contract. In fact, never mention it at all and act like it’s a multiyear MLB deal…

 

Here’s another thing I keep thinking about. Who has signed? Not one major free agent signing so far, and not really even any mid level moves. All the top free agents are still on the board. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

 

If Bloom signed guys like Verlander and Bogaerts and Judge and went nuts and THEN made these moves would people be angry? It feels like they’re upset about the timing. Which given where we are at in the off-season is the dumbest effing thing ever

[notin]

Here’s another thing I keep thinking about. Who has signed? Not one major free agent signing so far, and not really even any mid level moves. All the top free agents are still on the board. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

 

If Bloom signed guys like Verlander and Bogaerts and Judge and went nuts and THEN made these moves would people be angry? It feels like they’re upset about the timing. Which given where we are at in the off-season is the dumbest effing thing ever

 

Perez and Pederson accepted QOs. Tyler Anderson signed with the Angels.

 

That’s the list…

[a700hitter]

If they DFA Ort, it’s worth it…

I could reduce my blood pressure medication if they DFA him.

[moonslav59]

It seems like just the other day a few moves were made around this time of year that pushed the Sox over the top. To date - nothing 0. You would think that some kind of real move will have to be made that actually will help the team. I liked us more when we had a lot of good players.

 

Not many real good players have signed with anyone. The clock is ticking, but there is a lot of time left to make the bold moves we are expecting or hoping for.

[moonslav59]

It's a long winter.

 

I feel pretty certain, Bloom will make some bold signings and or trades.

 

There will be a lot to talk about, at some point.

[Hugh2]

Perez and Pederson accepted QOs. Tyler Anderson signed with the Angels.

 

That’s the list…

 

Non of those guys were top 25, Anderson was the best and he’s the only one. The other two are resigning technically. You can throw Rizzo in there too. But that’s it. Nothing, nada, nunca. People are complaining over nothing, or at the very least prematurely about this off-season.

[moonslav59]

Non of those guys were top 25, Anderson was the best and he’s the only one. The other two are resigning technically. You can throw Rizzo in there too. But that’s it. Nothing, nada, nunca. People are complaining over nothing, or at the very least prematurely about this off-season.

 

This happens early winter every year. There are 30 teams looking to sign or trade for players. Someone always complains after just about every significant signing. Now, in keeping with out times, people are complaining about minor deals.

 

We could sign Judge, Turner and deGrom for $10M each, and someone would still complain about Nimmo signing with the Mets.