Mookie Betts and David Price have been traded to Dodgers

[Bellhorn04]

Twins are out. Graterol isn’t going anywhere...

 

Latest rumor seems to be that a Maeda-Graterol trade could still happen.

[jung]

Kimmi, go look at the Angels payroll over the past few mediocre seasons. Trout was underpaid in that time compared to the garbage filling up that roster. The Angels only good contract is Trout.

 

I agree to a large extent. The Angels are yet another f***ed up clueless organization. Look how long they hung onto Mike Souza as their manager. Want to explain how that made any sense? "Oh he is respected". Ah-huh. So is Buck. Who cares. Time has passed them by and not just recently.

 

That said they STILL make money and they are quite willing to make one baseball player almost their entire marketing effort. What else are they going to do if they really do not feel capable of or even have the incentive to compete for Championships.

 

If the Angels ever win anything again it will be as much luck as anything else. Maybe Manfred will send all the good teams off to foreign lands to play mid-season. They will all get coronavirus and end up in quarantine leaving the Angels to play the Marlins for the 2020 Championship. That is about the only shot the hapless Angels have. BUT, THEY STILL MAKE MONEY!

[jacksonianmarch]

Latest rumor seems to be that a Maeda-Graterol trade could still happen.

 

It seems the newest alignment tweeted about is:

 

Verdugo and a Dodgers prospect to Boston

Maeda to Minnesota

Graterol, Price, and Betts to LAD

[notin]

I entirely understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that the Padres wouldn't just take Betts $27 mil as evidenced by their insistence on dumping Myers on Boston. Hence, they didn't want all $27 mil, even if the player is entirely worth it. If they weren't willing to eat the one year and $27 mil of Betts' deal, then why would they then be willing to add $31 more mil on top of that to dump the same contract? Do you see what I am saying here?

 

Then f*** them. They are not getting Mookie Betts, a first round comp pick, saving $33mill and holding their best prospects. That’s why they’re stuck paying their fourth outfielder the third highest salary on the team and doomed to finish no higher than third in a weak NL West, and Preller is going to get fired. But hey, when you spend all your cash on Wil Myers and Eric Hosmer to the point where you can’t afford Mookie Betts, maybe you should get fired...

[a700hitter]

It's officially a cluster f**k.

[Bellhorn04]

It seems the newest alignment tweeted about is:

 

Verdugo and a Dodgers prospect to Boston

Maeda to Minnesota

Graterol, Price, and Betts to LAD

 

Which is 2 separate trades.

[notin]

It seems the newest alignment tweeted about is:

 

Verdugo and a Dodgers prospect to Boston

Maeda to Minnesota

Graterol, Price, and Betts to LAD

 

I’m guessing Gonsolin. So it won’t be him...

[jung]

Then f*** them. They are not getting Mookie Betts, a first round comp pick, saving $33mill and holding their best prospects. That’s why they’re stuck paying their fourth outfielder the third highest salary on the team and doomed to finish no higher than third in a weak NL West, and Preller is going to get fired. But hey, when you spend all your cash on Wil Myers and Eric Hosmer to the point where you can’t afford Mookie Betts, maybe you should get fired...

 

I don't know why we would think the Padres have any shot here. Is it because of the Myers/Bloom connection? I don't know what else it could be.

[mvp 78]

I don't know why we would think the Padres have any shot here. Is it because of the Myers/Bloom connection? I don't know what else it could be.

 

At this point, it makes little sense to take on Myers when the Dodgers aren’t forcing extra contracts on the Sox.

[notin]

At this point, it makes little sense to take on Myers when the Dodgers aren’t forcing extra contracts on the Sox.

 

Well, as I pointed out, it could actually push the Sox further from the tax limit.

 

Let’s not pretend the Dodgers are taking Price’s whole contract here...

[moonslav59]

It seems the newest alignment tweeted about is:

 

Verdugo and a Dodgers prospect to Boston

Maeda to Minnesota

Graterol, Price, and Betts to LAD

 

I'd take Gray & Wong or Gonsolin.

[harmony]

I would try to get the Dodgers to throw in a prospect as well.

Why should the Dodgers throw in a prospect (unless they're getting back a prospect such as Brusdar Graterol)?

 

Going back to the original tentative deal, what if the Red Sox were OK with Graterol's medicals but the Twins had problems with Kenta Maeda's medicals? Would the Twins be justified in asking the Red Sox to add a prospect to the deal?

[moonslav59]

Puzzling entry on MLTR

 

1:40PM: Momentum towards a deal is building and there’s increased optimism that a trade—or trades—will take place, and there’s a chance that an announcement could come as early as today, according to Neal. The Twins and Dodgers are in direct discussions and Heyman reports that their part of the deal is “pretty set,” with Maeda heading to the Twins and Graterol going the other way. For what it’s worth, Neal adds that the Twins are now “expected to get a little more” than Maeda. If Heyman is correct, then the last remaining hurdle will be for the Dodgers to refine their package for Betts. Speculatively, that could involve Graterol being flipped to Boston, but the Boston Globe’s Alex Speier tweeted earlier that Graterol isn’t expected to be dealt to the Red Sox as part of any trade.

 

Graterol NOT going to BOS.

 

LA giving more to MN than just Maeda.

 

Makes me think Graterol goes to LA, LA gives something minor to MN and MN gives us someone they think is better than Graterol.

[Jasonbay44]

Give Mookie 10/$400. f*** the trade

[a700hitter]

Give Mookie 10/$400. f*** the trade

The FO is deep into this screw up and they don't have an exit strategy. Boy Wonder Bloom got cute with a 3-team deal that has backfired. No matter how this ends up, it is a black eye. How does Mookie play for the Red Sox in 2020? That's not possible imo. The Red Sox are desperate now. This will have an ugly end and the season is being sacrificed before a single pitch has been thrown.

[jad]

Give Mookie 10/$400. f*** the trade

 

The FO is deep into this screw up and they don't have an exit strategy. Boy Wonder Bloom got cute with a 3-team deal that has backfired. No matter how this ends up, it is a black eye. How does Mookie play for the Red Sox in 2020? That's not possible imo. The Red Sox are desperate now. This will have an ugly end and the season is being sacrificed before a single pitch has been thrown.

 

But those 15,000 fans who attend games, their eyes glued to various fantasy-trade apps, will be REALLY psyched!

[moonslav59]

Hogwash.

[jung]

The FO is deep into this screw up and they don't have an exit strategy. Boy Wonder Bloom got cute with a 3-team deal that has backfired. No matter how this ends up, it is a black eye. How does Mookie play for the Red Sox in 2020? That's not possible imo. The Red Sox are desperate now. This will have an ugly end and the season is being sacrificed before a single pitch has been thrown.

 

Oh I think Mookie would play for the Sox and play well. Doesn't change what a cluster this has been. I am not buying any of the hogwash that has come out of Fenway since this whole meshugas began certainly as it relates to the status of Gatorade.

[Kingface]

Ok.....I know I haven't been kicking around for awhile but seriously what is hard to figure out? Mookie is not coming back, the Sox will still be good and the offense will be fine. Plus they will still sell out a ton of games, still have a top 5 largest payroll and they will next year too.

We still have JD, Devers, Bogey, Chavis, Benni, Verdugo plus a decent Vaz. The offense will be fine as will the defense. The ptching is what needs serious help. If thy can get Gonsolin that will help but they would still need another starter with the question marks of Sale's and Evoldi's health If healthy, Sale, ERod, Evoldi, Gonsolin and (whoever) isn't horrible. The bullpen is a mess though.

Anyway, to say the Sox are gonna be thrust into foreverness of bad luck is getting a bit stupid.....

[jung]

Ok.....I know I haven't been kicking around for awhile but seriously what is hard to figure out? Mookie is not coming back, the Sox will still be good and the offense will be fine. Plus they will still sell out a ton of games, still have a top 5 largest payroll and they will next year too.

We still have JD, Devers, Bogey, Chavis, Benni, Verdugo plus a decent Vaz. The offense will be fine as will the defense. The ptching is what needs serious help. If thy can get Gonsolin that will help but they would still need another starter with the question marks of Sale's and Evoldi's health If healthy, Sale, ERod, Evoldi, Gonsolin and (whoever) isn't horrible. The bullpen is a mess though.

Anyway, to say the Sox are gonna be thrust into foreverness of bad luck is getting a bit stupid.....

 

This trade is going to go through IMO. But the offense will only be fine until guys in the front 9 start going down. There is nobody backing these guys up, NOBODY.

 

And if Mookie isn't leaving a hole what are we willing to give him 12/420 for or God forbid, 13/400 or whatever is a "teen" number.

Edited February 9, 2020 by jung

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

This trade is going to go through IMO. But the offense will only be fine until guys in the front 9 start going down. There is nobody backing these guys up, NOBODY.

 

That's why we need Gonsolin - he rakes: .308 in the bigs last year, .305 in college with 11 jacks and 17 triples! He is our starter in every inter-league series.

[jung]

That's why we need Gonsolin - he rakes: .308 in the bigs last year, .305 in college with 11 jacks and 17 triples! He is our starter in every inter-league series.

 

Gonsolin would be a nice addition. But he does not solve the problem of nobody backing up the front 9 that can actually come in and play. I don't see a miracle like the Chapman deal the Yankee's pulled off around the corner either. Chavis is not Holt if anybody is wondering. Lin isn't anybody as far as I am concerned.

[Elktonnick]

This trade is going to go through IMO. But the offense will only be fine until guys in the front 9 start going down. There is nobody backing these guys up, NOBODY.

Whether this trade happens or not Bloom hasn't exactly instilled the Fenway faithful and Red Sox Nation with confidence .

[jad]

Whether this trade happens or not Bloom hasn't exactly instilled the Fenway faithful and Red Sox Nation with confidence .

 

No, but then, he has cut down on the numbers of those fans, to the more manageable levels he was familiar with in Tampa Bay. You know, with sell-outs every night, it really is hard to keep track of your fan base.

[Elktonnick]

No, but then, he has cut down on the numbers of those fans, to the more manageable levels he was familiar with in Tampa Bay. You know, with sell-outs every night, it really is hard to keep track of your fan base.

Bloom will really be considered a huge success when Rays fans outnumber Red Sox fans at games at.Fenway

Edited February 9, 2020 by Elktonnick

[harmony]

That's why we need Gonsolin - he rakes: .308 in the bigs last year, .305 in college with 11 jacks and 17 triples! He is our starter in every inter-league series.

I've shared this before, but nearly four years ago I went out to the University of Portland to see Saint Mary's College of California ace Corbin Burnes, who pitched a gem:

 

https://portlandpilots.com/sports/baseball/stats/2016/saint-marys-game-1-/boxscore/8024

 

I don't even remember Gael outfielder Anthony Gonsolin going 3-for-4 with a homer and three RBI.

[Kimmi]

Why should the Dodgers throw in a prospect (unless they're getting back a prospect such as Brusdar Graterol)?

 

Going back to the original tentative deal, what if the Red Sox were OK with Graterol's medicals but the Twins had problems with Kenta Maeda's medicals? Would the Twins be justified in asking the Red Sox to add a prospect to the deal?

 

Because they really, really want Betts.

[Kimmi]

Kimmi, go look at the Angels payroll over the past few mediocre seasons. Trout was underpaid in that time compared to the garbage filling up that roster. The Angels only good contract is Trout.

 

Fair. They have some other terrible contracts on their roster as well.

 

That said, Trout is under contract until 2030. That's scary, and he's the best player in baseball.

[Kimmi]

Whether this trade happens or not Bloom hasn't exactly instilled the Fenway faithful and Red Sox Nation with confidence .

 

In Bloom, I trust.

[jacksonianmarch]

Trade is done. Downs to the Sox with Verdugo