Sox starting pitching thread

[Bellhorn04]

If your definition of an Ace is David Price you haven’t watched much baseball have you?

 

Ticking time bomb which can and will explode at any moment. Good luck with your pink hat assessment

 

Add in “way back” Rick Porcello back to his old self allowing the HR ball you have every contender in the AL licking their chops

 

Dombrowski blew it last August when Verlander was past on. Tax strapped is a beautiful thing!

 

You might win a 100 games but it’s the final 12 wins that count and there isn’t enough pitching starter or relief to get it done!

It’s a fact and the facts are undisputed

 

Final 11 wins, STORKSHIT. The first round is 3 of 5.

[Slasher9]

You might win a 100 games but it’s the final 12 wins that count and there isn’t enough pitching starter or relief to get it done!

It’s a fact and the facts are undisputed

 

actually only the final 11 count for us. your yankees will need 12 (if they even make the WC).

[notin]

Final 11 wins, STORKSHIT. The first round is 3 of 5.

 

And the Red Sox will have to go (-7) and 34 in the final 27 games to reach his pre-season maximum of 86 wins...

[greenwell]

And the Red Sox will have to go (-7) and 34 in the final 27 games to reach his pre-season maximum of 86 wins...

 

That seems unlikely

[Slasher9]

And the Red Sox will have to go (-7) and 34 in the final 27 games to reach his pre-season maximum of 86 wins...

 

perhaps they will penalize 7 of our W's as punishment for Ortiz gambling?

[kenmeister]

I met a woman named Jaleen last night. So you all tell me, is Jaleen a man's name or a woman's name?

 

I still can't believe we traded him to Tampa Bay and then he beats us.

[mvp 78]

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jaleen-107725.htm

 

Jaleen is a girl's name.

 

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jalen-2218.htm

 

Jalen is a boy's name.

[notin]

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jaleen-107725.htm

 

Jaleen is a girl's name.

 

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jalen-2218.htm

 

Jalen is a boy's name.

 

Glad THATwas resolved...

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The only undisputed fact is that you're an ignorant ******* who should have been banned ages ago.

 

 

Calling a Yankem fan an 'ignorant *******' is redundant.

[kenmeister]

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jaleen-107725.htm

 

Jaleen is a girl's name.

 

https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-jalen-2218.htm

 

Jalen is a boy's name.

 

Ahhhhh

[Emp9]

Ya’ never know nowadays... did you feel around?

[a700hitter]

Ya’ never know nowadays... did you feel around?

I was thinking the same thing. If you see an adams apple, i think you will have your answer.

[MADSTORK]

Final 11 wins, STORKSHIT. The first round is 3 of 5.

 

 

Add the wildcard my friend and it’s 12

 

Degrom Verlander Cole Lester Lackey Gonzalez Grienke

 

I’ll quote Slider if any of u pink hats are old enough to remember one of his famous movie quotes? The above list “is long and distinguished like my Johnson “ end quote.

 

The 3 stooges and now Kimbrel averaging 5 walks per 8th 9th innings the last 30 days. Not going to get it done folks

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

I hate to continue to post negative comments, I've really enjoyed this season and love our team. Talk of a wild card game is nonsense, the Sox will win the division.

 

But if you can't see the issues with this pitching staff you aren't being honest with yourself. A month ago one of the networks showed the numbers for the top teams and their top 3 starters. Ours was clearly third to Cleveland and the Stros. Now Price has improved since then but that was when Sale was healthy and dominant. Now he is a question mark, Price has a well known history in October and nobody should trust Porcello at this point. Next we have the bullpen and the much discussed set up men problem. Add into it Kimbrel's last month and the fact that October is all about pitching and if you aren't concerned you should be.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Yaz Fan Since '67

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The hope is that Sale isn't seriously injured and will pitch like Chris Sale when he returns. E-Rod is returning and Price has been surprisingly excellent. That is three really good starting pitchers. The fourth spot is Porcello. Eovaldi goes to the bullpen in October. Assuming Sale is healthy going forward, I don't see an issue with the starting staff at all.

 

But sure, if Sale has a lingering health issue, this team isn't going to win a championship.

 

The bullpen is a bigger concern, IMO.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Bellhorn04]

Add the wildcard my friend and it’s 12

 

Degrom Verlander Cole Lester Lackey Gonzalez Grienke

 

I’ll quote Slider if any of u pink hats are old enough to remember one of his famous movie quotes? The above list “is long and distinguished like my Johnson “ end quote.

 

The 3 stooges and now Kimbrel averaging 5 walks per 8th 9th innings the last 30 days. Not going to get it done folks

 

5 walks per 8th 9th innings, huh?

 

And what exactly is the point of your random list of pitchers?

 

You're an ignorant twit, as well as a pussy for being afraid to say you're a Yankee fan.

[OH FOY]

The hope is that Sale isn't seriously injured and will pitch like Chris Sale when he returns. E-Rod is returning and Price has been surprisingly excellent. That is three really good starting pitchers. The fourth spot is Porcello. Eovaldi goes to the bullpen in October. Assuming Sale is healthy going forward, I don't see an issue with the starting staff at all.

 

But sure, if Sale has a lingering health issue, this team isn't going to win a championship.

 

The bullpen is a bigger concern, IMO.

 

3 Lefties in a row in the Play-offs. I know we had Hurst, Ojeda, and Tudor once. But I think only Hurst was left in 86. Ojeda was with the Mets, and Tudor with the Cards. Me I would go with Sale, Rick P, then Price, and E-Rod. Just to break it up a bit.

I don't like it when Price follows Sale.

Edited September 1, 2018 by OH FOY!

[notin]

The hope is that Sale isn't seriously injured and will pitch like Chris Sale when he returns. E-Rod is returning and Price has been surprisingly excellent. That is three really good starting pitchers. The fourth spot is Porcello. Eovaldi goes to the bullpen in October. Assuming Sale is healthy going forward, I don't see an issue with the starting staff at all.

 

But sure, if Sale has a lingering health issue, this team isn't going to win a championship.

 

The bullpen is a bigger concern, IMO.

 

We've all seen similar things happen before.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

The hope is that Sale isn't seriously injured and will pitch like Chris Sale when he returns. E-Rod is returning and Price has been surprisingly excellent. That is three really good starting pitchers. The fourth spot is Porcello. Eovaldi goes to the bullpen in October. Assuming Sale is healthy going forward, I don't see an issue with the starting staff at all.

 

But sure, if Sale has a lingering health issue, this team isn't going to win a championship.

 

The bullpen is a bigger concern, IMO.

 

Price has never been a good playoff pitcher and that was when he was a dominant in the regular season, since coming to Boston he has been inconstant and still holds that playoff label. I love ERod but he has never recorded an out in the playoffs and is unproven, he is also our 4th-5th starter when everyone is healthy..

[notin]

Price has never been a good playoff pitcher and that was when he was a dominant in the regular season' date=' since coming to Boston he has been inconstant and still holds that playoff label. I love ERod but he has never recorded an out in the playoffs and is unproven, he is also our 4th-5th starter when everyone is healthy..[/quote']

 

By that logic, what is it about Sale’s postseason experience that we should bank on?

 

FWIW Verlander was awful in the postseason for many years...

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

By that logic, what is it about Sale’s postseason experience that we should bank on?

 

FWIW Verlander was awful in the postseason for many years...

 

I didn't even want to mention that as he is our best hope, he is also an injury risk. I'm just saying there are real concerns here for a team whose plan is for their starters to overcome the bullpen shortcomings. Even at our best the top 3 starters here are third best group in the AL playoffs, now we are banking on 2 guys who were coming back from injury and their effectiveness is unknown, one who has throw to 3 batters in his playoff history, and a third player who has never been a good playoff pitcher. That's a whole lot of ifs on September 1st.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Yaz Fan Since '67

[Bellhorn04]

I didn't even want to mention that as he is our best hope' date=' he is also an injury risk. I'm just saying there are real concerns here for a team whose plan is for their starters to overcome the bullpen shortcomings. Even at our best the top 3 starters here are third best group in the AL playoffs, now we are banking on 2 guys who were coming back from injury and their effectiveness is unknown, one who has throw to 3 batters in his playoff history, and a third player who has never been a good playoff pitcher. That's a whole lot of ifs on September 1st.[/quote']

 

The good news is that just about every team has their own pitching issues.

 

The Astros have Morton and McCullers on the DL, and in his last 24.2 IP Verlander has given up 8 homers and 18 earned runs.

[moonslav59]

The good news is that just about every team has their own pitching issues.

 

The Astros have Morton and McCullers on the DL, and in his last 24.2 IP Verlander has given up 8 homers and 18 earned runs.

 

It seems like everyone's pens are imploding recently.

[jung]

For one, the MFY pen needs Chapman back desperately. I have never much believed in Betances if you have to depend on him to really carry the weight as a closer.

 

While this is mainly a comment on pitching and recent posts on pitching I remain from Missouri on the return of Judge to full health and contribution this year.

[oldtimer]

It seems like everyone's pens are imploding recently.

 

This is a 162 game season and pitchers in particular feel a lot of wear and tear going through it, not to mention outright injuries. Pitchers throw harder on average than in the past and while a lot of guys are big, nevertheless, they still feel worn down. In the case of the Sox, we have had a lot of outings where the starter goes 5 innings and sometimes less, meaning the bullpen gets worked very hard. Cora has tried to mitigate the wear and tear but it is still there for the Sox and every other team.

 

We are hoping that guys like Sale and E-Rod and to some extent Price will have been rested enough to bring them into the Playoffs in decent form. Remember in Spring Training next year, this kind of baseball wear factor will very much come into play again next year.

[MADSTORK]

5 walks per 8th 9th innings, huh?

 

And what exactly is the point of your random list of pitchers?

 

You're an ignorant twit, as well as a pussy for being afraid to say you're a Yankee fan.

 

 

 

Get ready for the next 100 win Team to exit the Tournament.

Your not going to win a Series when your top 4 relievers have an average whip of 1.6

 

The above list of pitchers were all available through the years but hey, what more can u ask, u got Price and Diamond Dave, what more do you need?

[vegasbob]

The good news is that just about every team has their own pitching issues.

 

The Astros have Morton and McCullers on the DL, and in his last 24.2 IP Verlander has given up 8 homers and 18 earned runs.

 

So, Mr. Upton sucks ? Hope we can avoid him.

[Bellhorn04]

Get ready for the next 100 win Team to exit the Tournament.

Your not going to win a Series when your top 4 relievers have an average whip of 1.6

 

Kimbrel 1.04

Kelly 1.26

Barnes 1.23

Hembree 1.42

Workman 1.09

Brasier 0.73

 

For a Know-it-All Troll, you sure are badly informed.

[sk7326]

Given how reliever-centric the sport is now - it is not that surprising that bullpens are facing serious attrition problems. Where I fret about the Sox is how hard they have leaned on relievers, especially with that #4 and #5 spot in the rotation. Rodriguez when he has pitched has been outstanding, but like Pomeranz last year, was still not getting deep into games. I expect the expanded rosters will help take some pressure off.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

Get ready for the next 100 win Team to exit the Tournament.

Your not going to win a Series when your top 4 relievers have an average whip of 1.6

 

The above list of pitchers were all available through the years but hey, what more can u ask, u got Price and Diamond Dave, what more do you need?

 

I've defended Yankees fans here because I think it's good to get other perspectives, I thought Sox fans jumped on them too harshly for simply stating opinions. But when you visit other boards you need to demonstrate respect. You haven't done that, instead you kind of act like an ass. Don't be that guy, it's not a good look.

 

Back on topic I was thinking of this thread as I watched ERod paint the corners all night in his first start in a month and a half. What a fantastic performance.