Sox starting pitching thread

[moonslav59]

What kind of broken clock is never right? Answer: A Maddork clock.

 

A clock with no hands or numbers.

[notin]

A broken clock is right twice a day

 

How old is your clock? Very outdated analogy...

[a700hitter]

Ben, no latte, just a double Espresso with Sambuca.

[greenwell]

You mean 4 days off, right?

 

I think you're misunderstanding him. If there is not an off-day they add in a sixth starter so the top 5 get 5 days between starts.

[oldtimer]

Starting Pom and Johnson is not exactly putting our strongest foot forward.

[moonslav59]

I think you're misunderstanding him. If there is not an off-day they add in a sixth starter so the top 5 get 5 days between starts.

 

Sounds pretty much like a 6 man rotation, since days off are usually rare.

[kenmeister]

Sounds pretty much like a 6 man rotation, since days off are usually rare.

 

Ironically two in the past week though

[Slasher9]

Sounds pretty much like a 6 man rotation, since days off are usually rare.

 

i would not be opposed to this. especially if we maintain a 6+ game lead for ALE title.

#savesalebullets

[Spudboy]

Your analogy is f***ing stupid. Are you trying to say eovaldi will only be good in 8% of his starts?

You’re a f***ing imbecile

 

In Bell's absence, this response will do quite well!

[moonslav59]

Ironically two in the past week though

 

...and more than usual to come.

 

I've been all for limiting Sale's pitches and IP since last year, even if it's a close race.

 

I'm not sure a 6 man rotation is needed to do that for just Sale (or Price too), since there are other ways to make that happen.

 

With all our days off in August and September, I don't think it's needed.

 

Also, do we really want our starters getting used to 5 days off, and then when the playoffs start switch to 4 or even 3 days off?

 

A lot of pitchers thrive on routine, pattern and repetition. I'd rather limit pitches and innings and throw Pom in the pen as long relief with Velazquez. When and if Wright return, we can throw another starter into the pen to offer early relief to a starter in need of limiting work.

[Bellhorn04]

In Bell's absence, this response will do quite well!

 

I love it that others are aboard the train with me.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

E-Rod will be back soon, and either he or Price will be in the pen in the offseason. That seems evident because:

 

1) Eovaldi is very clearly the #2 starter. Even with his slow start post-TJ, and inflated numbers due to a pair of insane slow hooks, he's still second on the Sox (and better than anyone on the Yankees) in both xwOBA, which is the deepest stat we have, and WPA/GS, which is the most results-oriented. And it's not that close.

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

[kenmeister]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

I hope Cora starts letting him go the distance if he has a shutout going with only ~80 pitches thrown.

[Dojji]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

I'm still holding out on that one. As good as ihe's looked in two starts, it was two starts.

 

he's made one heck of a first impression, but let's see him carry that forward through the rest of the season. His inconsistency is something of a legend after all.

 

But then, so was Porcello's before he got here. I'm not ruling it out. I'm just saying we should be in wait-and-see mode.

[Dojji]

I hope Cora starts letting him go the distance if he has a shutout going with only ~80 pitches thrown.

 

I'll always take a 7 or 8 inning performance from any starter without quibbling over whether he should have gone 9. But then, I actually trust the bullpen probably more than most people here. Mostly because I don't listen to sports media and I don't get that extra spoonfed helping of panic from the sewer rats on the local station every time they have a less than ideal game

[Kimmi]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

It's only been two starts, so we don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

 

That said, his peripheral stats have told a different story than his ERA.

 

There are reasons to be optimistic.

[moonslav59]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

It's hard to make the call on who starts the second, thrid and maybe 4th game of the first playoff series.

 

Sale is number one.

 

Porcello has looked like 2016 for much of the year.

 

Price has looked sharp.

 

Eovaldi needs a larger sample size for me to pencil him in right now, but surely, if he pitches this well from now on, he's in the mix.

 

ERod still has time to return and pitch like he belongs.

 

Unless there's an injury, Johnson is not in the mix, even though he seems to struggle out of the pen.

 

Pom has almost no chance to crack the playoff rotation, but he could earn a pen slot. He's been a RP before and a pretty good one.

 

Price looked great out of the pen last year, but if he keeps pitching well, he may be my #2.

 

If you made me choose who deserves it right now, I'd go...

 

1. Sale

 

2. Porcello

 

3. Price

 

4. (if needed) Eovaldi

 

Long Relief: ERod, Velazquez (Wright? Pom?)

 

Closer: Kimbrel

 

Pen: Barnes, Thornburg, Kelly, Brasier, Hembree (Workman?)

 

[Emp9]

What would be the appropiate number of Long relievers to carry on a post season roster?

[Bellhorn04]

What would be the appropiate number of Long relievers to carry on a post season roster?

 

You can try to figure that out from Moon's list above. What's the best configuration of 12 you can come up with? With many of these guys a lot depends on how they look between now and the end of the season.

 

Certainly it would be nice to have at least 1 guy in the bullpen (such as E-Rod) who can go long.

[mvp 78]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

Who?

[moonslav59]

Who?

 

You know, Eric, the guy who lives in a van down by the river.

[moonslav59]

What would be the appropiate number of Long relievers to carry on a post season roster?

 

If our starters in in a groove to finish the season, I might say 1-2.

 

If our pen guys are struggling, maybe it makes the choices easier.

 

A lot can and will happen before game 1.

[Slasher9]

Kind of weird how MADSTORK doesnt show up during a sweep of the MFY and another epic win streak?

is it possible he really isnt a Red Sox fan?

is it possible he just trolls?

[Bellhorn04]

Kind of weird how MADSTORK doesnt show up during a sweep of the MFY and another epic win streak?

is it possible he really isnt a Red Sox fan?

is it possible he just trolls?

 

The lowest form of troll, won't even disclose his true allegiances.

[notin]

This comes from Eric Van -- he believes either E-Rod or Price go into the bullpen in October. He has high praise for Eovaldi.

 

 

 

Interesting, he claims that Eovaldi is better than any Yankees starter. I don't know if he is better than Severino, but I would rank him higher than all of the Yankees other starters.

 

I agree with the point that either E-Rod or Price go to the bullpen in October; Eovaldi stays in the rotation.

 

Health could easily resolve all this, including Eovaldi.

 

I do really doubt Price goes to the pen if he’s healthy. I just heard Dombrowski on MLB radio talking about how much faith the organization has in him...

[notin]

The lowest form of troll, won't even disclose his true allegiances.

 

He probably posts here under another name for baseball discussions and then uses his MADSTORK persona when he feels the need to complain. Like it’s his cathartic alter ego...

[Kimmi]

You know, Eric, the guy who lives in a van down by the river.

 

LOL This had me cracking up a lot more than it had any right to.

[Kimmi]

Health could easily resolve all this, including Eovaldi.

 

I do really doubt Price goes to the pen if he’s healthy. I just heard Dombrowski on MLB radio talking about how much faith the organization has in him...

 

Eovaldi has a lot more to show before he earns a spot in our post season rotation. That said, I think he will be there.

 

I don't see any way that Price goes to the pen, barring a really bad finish to the season.

 

I currently see our postseason rotation as Sale, Porcello, Price, and Eovaldi.

[Dojji]

It's a huge problem guys. A massive dilemma.

 

We just have too many quality starting pitching options.

 

Which is a thing that if you told me 2 years ago I'd be saying to anyone about this team, I'd have looked at you funny

[jacksonianmarch]

Eovaldi has a lot more to show before he earns a spot in our post season rotation. That said, I think he will be there.

 

I don't see any way that Price goes to the pen, barring a really bad finish to the season.

 

I currently see our postseason rotation as Sale, Porcello, Price, and Eovaldi.

 

He has dominated the Yankees a couple times now. He is in your playoff rotation if you clinch the 1 seed and we win the play in game. I'd be willing to bet my sig on it