Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I suggested Duran or Narvaez as possible additions to make BTV work- not both.

Again, I'm not for the trade, unless it's Story for Murphy 1 to 1, which BTV does not accept.

BTV is more useless than MH IMO.

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

its not the right mentality.  Trying to be hyper efficient in payroll is how we wound up in this mess.  Trying to squeeze value out of sunk costs.

NOt saying jsut spend , spend, spend.  Just saying that the issue with this team is that we are short on offensive talent. And if we save money, breslow is just going to get 4 more pitchers. Weve seen the movie before.

I agree.

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Is that after trading Contreras (171 OPS+ now)?

Right now, Rafaela (123) and Abreu (117) are over 115, but I do agree we need 2-3 more beyond the 3 we have now.

1 more would not be enough.

2 more mega bats might be enough.

Con Man is not being traded.🤔

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Toronto rode that 27th ranked offense and third ranked defense to the World Series last year….

AZ was 15th in runs scored in 2023.

[Old Red]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

The budget is fine at this level.  THe problem is breslow.  And no, Ranger Suarez contract will NOT age well

He’s not much more than a 5 inning pitcher now.

[moonslav59]

Not for this trade, but BTV accepts:

Story, Wong & Holobetz +$10M 

for

Murphy

[notin]

27 minutes ago, Old Red said:

BTV is more useless than MH IMO.

So is demanding the Sox spend more money and Henry sell the team but I don’t see you decrying that….

[notin]

31 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Atlanta would not want Story, and Boston would not want Murphy.

Of the two, Boston is more likely to reject that deal…

[vegasbob]

3 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

he's on the IL.

What is funny is that he is the one who is not IL

[mvp 78]

35 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

The budget is fine at this level.  THe problem is breslow.  And no, Ranger Suarez contract will NOT age well

Then no FA will ever work out I guess.

[moonslav59]

Here is one BTV accepts

Chapman, Duran & Yoshida

for

Tanner Scott (2.4 yrs left) and SS prospect Joendry Vargas

or

Story, Yoshida, Chapman & Duran & $10M

for Yelich & Catcher Jeferson Quero

[drewski6]

14 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Is that after trading Contreras (171 OPS+ now)?

Right now, Rafaela (123) and Abreu (117) are over 115, but I do agree we need 2-3 more beyond the 3 we have now.

1 more would not be enough.

2 more mega bats might be enough.

If we are looking towards 2027, and we should be, I dont think its safe to assume that all 3 of the aforementioned Contreras, Cedanne, Abreu will be healthy and as productive.  So I would like to add 3 more bats above 115 OPS+ to this mix and I suppose even Anthony can be one. So get a bopping DH and a bopping infielder easiest route, I suppose.  But dont get a 100 OPS+ guy who can field and tell me hes the guy because you like his fielding or because his team also has a lefty pen pitcher you wanna include in the incoming package.

Lets get 2 very good hitters and not compromise on the very good hitting part.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

If we are looking towards 2027, and we should be, I dont think its safe to assume that all 3 of the aforementioned Contreras, Cedanne, Abreu will be healthy and as productive.  So I would like to add 3 more bats above 115 OPS+ to this mix and I suppose even Anthony can be one. So get a bopping DH and a bopping infielder easiest route, I suppose.  But dont get a 100 OPS+ guy who can field and tell me hes the guy because you like his fielding or because his team also has a lefty pen pitcher you wanna include in the incoming package.

Lets get 2 very good hitters and not compromise on the very good hitting part.

You didnt answer my question: do you add 3 new big bats and trade Willson?

I'm not against the idea- just asking.

[moonslav59]

It's not "safe to assume" Contreras, Abreu & Rafaela all do this well in 2027: I agree, but I think it's safe to assume someone else might take up the slack (Anthony, Mayer, Durbin, Narvaez or eeek....Duran) if they do.

That still leaves a need for 2 big bats, IMO.

Contreras is getting older, so 1B/DH seems like one spot to try and add a big bat, but I'd like to keep Willson, if we are looking to win in 2027. (If the pan is for 2027, 2028 and beyond, trading him this summer makes sense.)

2B or 3B remains the other clear slot to add a big bat. Durbin, Mayer and others can fight for the other, unless we add the two here.

In theory, adding three: 1B/DH, SS and 2B/3B makes the most sense, but we'll be lucky if we add two.

No way we will spend on adding a big bat to the OF, even if we trade Duran.

[southpaw777]

19 hours ago, drewski6 said:

Maybe if we promise to make cora cbo, cora will accept if he gets to tell breslow himself that breslow is out and hes got his office now.

What are you doing in my office?
What are YOU doing in MY office?
Huh?
What?
Breslow calls security
Security escorts Breslow out

You can probably add Cora to the list of many possible MLB front office professionals that will not work for John Henry. Breslow is an asst GM who’s in way over his head.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

You didnt answer my question: do you add 3 new big bats and trade Willson?

I'm not against the idea- just asking.

Im open to listening on Willson because of his age and that he could have immense value to another club trying to make a playoff push in the short term, which feels potentially out of reach for us right now.

But it would take a real lot.

Im not against getting 2 very good bats for 2027, one for DH and one for infield and trying again next year with that in addition to what we have.  And im not worried about a little redundancy, someone will prob be benchable or hurt by May next year.

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Im open to listening on Willson because of his age and that he could have immense value to another club trying to make a playoff push in the short term, which feels potentially out of reach for us right now.

But it would take a real lot.

Im not against getting 2 very good bats for 2027, one for DH and one for infield and trying again next year with that in addition to what we have.  And im not worried about a little redundancy, someone will prob be benchable or hurt by May next year.

I’m open to listening on the Con Man too, but after so much time the Red Sox have spent the past few years trying to find a capable 1B it would take more than a real lot to deal him IMO, and if so he would have to be replaced, which wouldn’t be so easy to do.

[notin]

17 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Im open to listening on Willson because of his age and that he could have immense value to another club trying to make a playoff push in the short term, which feels potentially out of reach for us right now.

But it would take a real lot.

Im not against getting 2 very good bats for 2027, one for DH and one for infield and trying again next year with that in addition to what we have.  And im not worried about a little redundancy, someone will prob be benchable or hurt by May next year.

Of course you listen on Contreras. And if someone hits your price, sell.

But don’t bother looking for big bats now.  Not many options will be available.  
 

Let’s say any team more than 3 games out of the WC will sell.  Right now, that leaves the Giants, Mets, Royals, Tigers and Angels.  Which of those teams has the “big bat” you want?  We do know none of them will have any interest in Chapman, Gray, or Contreras and maybe not Duran. 
 

Some here like Adames, but even if SF wants to deal, he has an NTC. And hreally, Hes a younger Trevor Story with one less hernia.  Jo Adell has been mentioned. Spencer Torkelson is a nice match.  Jorge Soler? Is this the talent pool to fix this team?

Get prospects.  Deal them this winter when everyone is making moves…

 

[JoeBrady]

On 6/16/2026 at 11:38 AM, Old Red said:

Willing to take on contracts can mean many things as did full throttle.

I agree.  Being open to acquiring a bad contract doesn't necessarily mean being stupid and taking everything.  SF has a backloaded contract with Adames.  I doubt that they expect to get his two most productive years at $13M each, and have someone else pick up the 5 declining years at $31M a piece.  They can try, but they won't succeed.  I mean, there could easily be someone looking to pick up a #26 LH hitter than can play a little LF.  But that doesn't mean they will be picking up almost any of salary.

[JoeBrady]

On 6/16/2026 at 10:57 AM, notin said:

So what would you offer to entice SF to give up their first 30 HR hitter since Bonds?  

Nothing.  The contract is under-water.

[Old Red]

6 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Nothing.  The contract is under-water.

Agree 100%.

[JoeBrady]

On 6/16/2026 at 1:15 PM, moonslav59 said:

Is Murphy out for all of 2026?

I read until about the ASG.  You'd be gambling big-time on health, but his bWAR/162 is 4.2 over the past five years, with almost no bad years.  'IF' healthy, he is a lot better than what we currently have, and $15M * 2, plus a team option, is a pretty affordable contract.

[JoeBrady]

23 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Now the Sox are so poor that they need to save on Duran's future ARB costs... 😎

We're not swapping out Duran for Narvaez.  Duran has been one of the best players in BB since the start of May.

[JoeBrady]

22 hours ago, notin said:

If they. Insist on more, walk away.  I wouldn’t give them Duran and Narvaez as well….

Duran is out of the question.  But he if we acquire Murphy, which I highly endorse, then we have four catchers, if you include Gaspar.  We should be open to including one of them.

[JoeBrady]

59 minutes ago, notin said:

Of course you listen on Contreras. And if someone hits your price, sell.

If/when they sell, then everyone is on the table, if someone hits your price.

[Old Red]

25 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

If/when they sell, then everyone is on the table, if someone hits your price.

That may sound good, but anyone who goes off the table has to be replaced, and that might be as easy as it sounds. Look how long it took the Red SOX to find a competent 1B.

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Sthpaw777 said:

You can probably add Cora to the list of many possible MLB front office professionals that will not work for John Henry. Breslow is an asst GM who’s in way over his head.

Cora still stays in touch with guys in the org. I wouldn't say never.

However, I wouldn't put Cora in as CBO. How has it gone with the previous two CBO's who were brand new to the position? Big learning curve, huh? Now throw Cora in there who has never been in the FO before. That's a recipe for disaster. 

[mvp 78]

39 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

If/when they sell, then everyone is on the table, if someone hits your price.

Crochet, Anthony, EVERYONE should be on the table for the right price. Unless you have the best player in the league on an amazing contract, every player should probably be available to the right bidder. It would just take paying out the nose for some guys.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, notin said:

Of course you listen on Contreras. And if someone hits your price, sell.

But don’t bother looking for big bats now.  Not many options will be available.  
 

Let’s say any team more than 3 games out of the WC will sell.  Right now, that leaves the Giants, Mets, Royals, Tigers and Angels.  Which of those teams has the “big bat” you want?  We do know none of them will have any interest in Chapman, Gray, or Contreras and maybe not Duran. 
 

Some here like Adames, but even if SF wants to deal, he has an NTC. And hreally, Hes a younger Trevor Story with one less hernia.  Jo Adell has been mentioned. Spencer Torkelson is a nice match.  Jorge Soler? Is this the talent pool to fix this team?

Get prospects.  Deal them this winter when everyone is making moves…

 

I agree, didnt meant that we need the bats right now, especially if we are selling.  Understood that you use the prospects as value storage vs aging major leaguers who lose trade value every year.

I would be pumped if we sold for propsects then flipped the prospects for 2 very good hitters this offseason.

[southpaw777]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Cora still stays in touch with guys in the org. I wouldn't say never.

However, I wouldn't put Cora in as CBO. How has it gone with the previous two CBO's who were brand new to the position? Big learning curve, huh? Now throw Cora in there who has never been in the FO before. That's a recipe for disaster. 

It would be just like Breslow. In over his head. Our owner has alienated most MLB FO execs. So this seem like the type of clown show we’re gonna see within the Red Sox FOfor the next couple years anyway…I do wish he’d sell. No chance on that…anyone got 5.25B?