Early Trade deadline deals the selling Sox should make

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

So, maybe 4th yr of actual rebuild but maybe 5-6 yrs of frustration as those 2 things arent exactly the same.

I could get behind this.

Arf arf

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Old Red said:

Pretty much everyone you trade you have to replace, so it’s not as simple, easy, or financially better than it may seem.

1-Two months too early for this discussion.

2-Focus on the players that won't be here in 2027.  That's Gray and Chapman.  Everyone is either someone we will need in 2027, or someone that won't bring back more than a lottery ticket, even including when we eat salary.

[Sthpaw777]

3 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

Odds of this not happening?

He will need Theo to hold his hand I’m sure…

[Sthpaw777]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

If they trade Chapman, they need to keep Whitlock around. Doesn't make sense to deal both of them unless they are tanking for 3 years. 

I would say it depends who’s coming back. I’m sure not a lot all alone but if he’s involved in a deal that can bring something back that’s worth it then they have to at least consider it.

[Sthpaw777]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

It doesn't feel like Durbin is a core player. Maybe bench player? 

I saw him as a Brock Holt type, not 3b. He’s a slap hitter. No power. Maybe run into 10 a year

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

So, maybe 4th yr of actual rebuild but maybe 5-6 yrs of frustration as those 2 things arent exactly the same.

I could get behind this.

After adding Crochet, Suarez, Gray, Contreras & Chapman over the last 2 years, I think they felt the rebuild was complete and just some tweaks were needed.

Most of the core players are under control for 2+ years- many at low or reasonable salaries.

The Sox brass might admit to a 2023-2024 "rebuild era."

[moonslav59]

These guys will never give the impression they are rebuilding, let alone a 3 year rebuild, so I doubt Whitlock is traded. (Contreras also has 2 years after '26.)

Trading 1.5 year players like Duran might be asking too much, and his stock is so low, it's probably worth holding on to a slim promise he rebounds.

Bello's stock has tumbled as he and KC have many years of control left, so they go nowhere quickly.

Chapman and Gray are the two obvious considerations. Sandoval, IKF and Coulombe will bring back nothing and will be gone, next year. You can trade them at the deadline and not be screaming "rebuild." It's just giving up on the current season.

Story and Yoshida have too much salary lingering to be tradable, unless we attach a prospect, pay 70-85% or take back a salary dump.

Duran is not highly paid, but we couldn't trade him last winter, so who wants him now?

[Sthpaw777]

28 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

These guys will never give the impression they are rebuilding, let alone a 3 year rebuild, so I doubt Whitlock is traded. (Contreras also has 2 years after '26.)

Trading 1.5 year players like Duran might be asking too much, and his stock is so low, it's probably worth holding on to a slim promise he rebounds.

Bello's stock has tumbled as he and KC have many years of control left, so they go nowhere quickly.

Chapman and Gray are the two obvious considerations. Sandoval, IKF and Coulombe will bring back nothing and will be gone, next year. You can trade them at the deadline and not be screaming "rebuild." It's just giving up on the current season.

Story and Yoshida have too much salary lingering to be tradable, unless we attach a prospect, pay 70-85% or take back a salary dump.

Duran is not highly paid, but we couldn't trade him last winter, so who wants him now?

Only reason Duran is still here is because Breslow wanted the moon for him and no team wanted to do that. Teams would like him but he has to be realistic about each players current worth on the market and to the team.

[Kimmi]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

1-Two months too early for this discussion.

We have the pitching and the defense to be a very competitive team.  Our offense is currently pretty unwatchable, but I can't believe they're as bad as what they've shown.  I'm as frustrated as anyone else with this team right now, but there's a lot of baseball left to be played.  As we've seen many, many times, things can look a lot different in one week, much less 4+ months.

[moonslav59]

27 minutes ago, Sthpaw777 said:

Only reason Duran is still here is because Breslow wanted the moon for him and no team wanted to do that. Teams would like him but he has to be realistic about each players current worth on the market and to the team.

I think that is mainly it.

I remember thinking we should get more than Paredes for Duran- like King, Sousa or Janek, or even 2 of those three, but I'm not sure I'd have said no for one on one.

(I think HOU did say no, so that point is mute.)

I remember notin suggesting Duran for Rushing and nobody rushing to agree. (Not sure LAD would have said yes.)

MVP suggested Duran for prospects, and posters gasped.

Word was the Padres wanted him, but I never heard a suggested offer.

[moonslav59]

15 minutes ago, Kimmi said:

We have the pitching and the defense to be a very competitive team.  Our offense is currently pretty unwatchable, but I can't believe they're as bad as what they've shown.  I'm as frustrated as anyone else with this team right now, but there's a lot of baseball left to be played.  As we've seen many, many times, things can look a lot different in one week, much less 4+ months.

We were 5 games under .500 on June 6, 2025, won 8 of the nest nine and were still 2 games under .500 on July 2nd.

This board was not very encouraged after 90 games, last year.