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On 9/12/2026 at 5:18 PM, jad said:

I don't really care about teams, only about the players.  That's why, with the constant turnover of the roster, I don't really give a cr*p about the RS, at least, not like I used to when I could name most of the players on the team.

I only care about the team. If it's only about the players then I don't have to be a Sox fan.

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5 minutes ago, Nick said:

I only care about the team. If it's only about the players then I don't have to be a Sox fan.

I am a life long Red Sox fan and I care about the team and the players are a part of the team...its all one.

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1 hour ago, Hitch said:

How do you know he isn't speaking to someone? This idea that a person who suffers depression and attempted to kill himself should just stop getting down on himself and show us some measurable change is idiocy I thought we'd left in the last decade. Obviously not.

His job isn't to entertain you, It's to play well and earn a career for himself and his family. Entertainment is a byproduct. But your idea that his job is to entertain you, and don't you dare complain, shows very neatly that players are seen as commodities, robots there for our benefit and nothing else. Not human beings with real struggles and flaws. 

Sounds like he was right when he said I should never have mentioned it. Certainly nothing has been learned for some.

I guess fans are just the commodity that owe Jarren Duran a living no matter if he can get a hit or not? 

Playing well is what he can do to entertain us. I truly don't care too much about the rest of it. However, when he keeps bringing everything upon himself (f slurs, going after fans, going after podcasters, his social media drama) he has shown no growth. He's 30. A large part of the reason that he hasn't been traded is that he's a toxic asset. Other teams don't want him because of what he brings to the table. I wish it wasn't the case. He's my son's favorite player. It's less about "mental health" and more about his behavior on the field. At this point, you can't write that stuff off anymore. Depression isn't a hall pass to get away with whatever you want.

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52 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

I agree with MVP that end of day, his job is to entertain.  We are the clients.  I agree with you, however, that we should have compassion and understanding for his mental health journey.  But the challenge is where to draw the line.  Because every person who acts like a fool has a reason why.  There are always reasons why.  

I dont love "figure it out" as it does sound cold to me.  But there is a point where his mental health struggles are hurting the team more than his talents are helping.  But Ill keep rooting for him.  But I may boo if he drops a ball.  But Id prob feel bad about it later.

Why feel bad about booing? His job is to catch the ball. If one of us fails to do our job correctly, we're open for criticism. There's a difference between booing and intentionally going after Duran in public because of his struggles. If we all went to a game together, I'm sure we'd all cheer for everyone on the team (excluding one or two posters of course). 

The only game I've ever been to where fans were really going after an opposing player was the day Brett Myers pitched after beating up his wife. A little different than yelling at Duran TBH! 

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/news/brett-myers-arrested-for-hitting-his-wife/277918/

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1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I guess fans are just the commodity that owe Jarren Duran a living no matter if he can get a hit or not? 

Playing well is what he can do to entertain us. I truly don't care too much about the rest of it. However, when he keeps bringing everything upon himself (f slurs, going after fans, going after podcasters, his social media drama) he has shown no growth. He's 30. A large part of the reason that he hasn't been traded is that he's a toxic asset. Other teams don't want him because of what he brings to the table. I wish it wasn't the case. He's my son's favorite player. It's less about "mental health" and more about his behavior on the field. At this point, you can't write that stuff off anymore. Depression isn't a hall pass to get away with whatever you want.

Just stop. You have zero idea what his growth has been. He's tried to kill himself and yet is still here, playing in a notoriously big market with all the pressures that brings. Hate on him all you want, but stop talking about mental health. You sound obnoxiously under-informed at best. 

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2 hours ago, drewski6 said:

So if hes the most capable SS defender (by a margin), this is a reason why he is too low at #15 on importance (for 2026 championship chase).  Im also considering that. Im also considering his playoff experience, that hes swung the bat well since returning, and that he was one of our best hitters in last years playoffs.  

Tolle, Gray, Cedanne, Contreras, Abreu, Story

He sucks at SS defense, and I'm big on that.

He's better than Monasterio, but he's not #15 right now. (I'd rather have Arias now, but he's not being promoted.)

 

1. Tolle

2. Gray

3. Ceddanne

4. Contreras

5. Abreu

6. Suarez

7. Anthony (could move up)

8. Durbin

9.Chapman

10. Whitlock

11. Bennett (maybe #14 for playoffs)

12. AR

13. Sogard

14. Miller

15. I could see putting Story or Duran, but I'd put Story, because he's the SS.

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9 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

1. Tolle

2. Gray

3. Ceddanne

4. Contreras

5. Abreu

6. Suarez

7. Anthony (could move up)

If Ramone hits more to left field, like he did with his game-winner yesterday, he sure could...

Seriously, the way Anthony effortlessly served that curve into left shows that it really doesn't take much effort -- for him, and his hand-eye. And extra base power will still be there, like his oppo HR in Baltimore right after returning to the line-up.

Going up there with an oppo mindset can open up the whole field for him, when pitchers start coming inside again and make mistakes.

Then the Roman Empire can become the force many predicted -- at exactly the right time.

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