Third Baseman Ketel Marte Is On the Boston Red Sox's Radar

[moonslav59]

If we want the better offensive team, we'd trade Rafaela ($6.3M AAV) and maybe Crawford ($2.7M) for KMarter ($15M AAV.) That's only adding $6M to the tax line- right up JH's alley.

If we want to keep the defense and longer-controlled Rafaela, we can trade Duran ($7.7M) and maybe Harrison (min)  for KMarte. This adds about $7M to the tax line.

1. L Anthony CF

2. S KMarte 2B

3. L Duran LF

4. R Contreras 1B

5. L Abreu RF

6. R Story SS

7. L Yoshida/Casas DH & R Romy DH/3B

8. R Narvaez C

9. L. Mayer 3B

Losing Crawford lessens the SP'er depth even more, but with Tolle/Early, I think we'll be fine:

SP: Crochet, Gray, Bello, Sandoval, Oviedo (Harrison from pen) AAA: Tolle, Early, Sandlin, Uberstine, Drohan, Mullins, Gamboa

RP: Chapman, Whitlock, Slaten, Weissert, Harrison, Hicks, Kelly, Watson/ AAA: Moran, Mullins & other SP'ers in AAA, like Samaniego, Anderson, Song, Harris, Berrios, Wu-Yelland

[Bellhorn04]

19 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's been over 80 all week, here. 86, today.

From Peter Gent's North Dallas Forty:  "I love Texas, but she drives her people crazy.  I've wondered whether it's the heat, or the money, or maybe both."

[moonslav59]

22 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

From Peter Gent's North Dallas Forty:  "I love Texas, but she drives her people crazy.  I've wondered whether it's the heat, or the money, or maybe both."

There is a lot about Texas to dislike, but the state is growing in population, even beyond immigrants. I'm not sure how sustainable it will be, but we'll see.

I doubt we retire here.

[Hitch]

On 12/27/2025 at 6:30 PM, moonslav59 said:

If we want the better offensive team, we'd trade Rafaela ($6.3M AAV) and maybe Crawford ($2.7M) for KMarter ($15M AAV.) That's only adding $6M to the tax line- right up JH's alley.

If we want to keep the defense and longer-controlled Rafaela, we can trade Duran ($7.7M) and maybe Harrison (min)  for KMarte. This adds about $7M to the tax line.

1. L Anthony CF

2. S KMarte 2B

3. L Duran LF

4. R Contreras 1B

5. L Abreu RF

6. R Story SS

7. L Yoshida/Casas DH & R Romy DH/3B

8. R Narvaez C

9. L. Mayer 3B

Losing Crawford lessens the SP'er depth even more, but with Tolle/Early, I think we'll be fine:

SP: Crochet, Gray, Bello, Sandoval, Oviedo (Harrison from pen) AAA: Tolle, Early, Sandlin, Uberstine, Drohan, Mullins, Gamboa

RP: Chapman, Whitlock, Slaten, Weissert, Harrison, Hicks, Kelly, Watson/ AAA: Moran, Mullins & other SP'ers in AAA, like Samaniego, Anderson, Song, Harris, Berrios, Wu-Yelland

The Diamondbacks don't need outfielders? 

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Hitch said:

The Diamondbacks don't need outfielders? 

If not, Duran & Harrison to PHI, Painter & DHam to AZ and KMarte to BOS.

[notin]

13 minutes ago, Hitch said:

The Diamondbacks don't need outfielders? 

No. They plan to clone Corbin Carroll this off-season.  The newly fertilized embryos should be ready to join the original in the Arizona outfield by opening day.

 

Opening Day, 2048, that is…

[Randy Red Sox]

On 12/21/2025 at 5:31 PM, Hugh2 said:

Sounds like the Sox are pulling out of trade talks for Marte

let's hope so.  lot easier just to sign Bichette and keep our assets but of course JH would never approve that.

[Hitch]

37 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

If not, Duran & Harrison to PHI, Painter & DHam to AZ and KMarte to BOS.

I don't think I've ever seen one of your trade proposals and thought 'hmmm...that could work'.

[Old Red]

7 minutes ago, Hitch said:

I don't think I've ever seen one of your trade proposals and thought 'hmmm...that could work'.

Or more importantly never happened.👍👍👍

[moonslav59]

Just now, Old Red said:

Or more importantly never happened.👍👍👍

Important to who?

[moonslav59]

10 minutes ago, Hitch said:

I don't think I've ever seen one of your trade proposals and thought 'hmmm...that could work'.

Not even Campbell to HOU for 3B Paredes & LH'd RP Sousa?

[Hitch]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Or more importantly never happened.👍👍👍

When did this blood feud between you and Moon start?

[Old Red]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

Important to who?

All the other teams, and that’s why they never happen despite what BTV accepts. Try the hat, because most likely you may get one that actually happens. Sure can’t get any worse.🤫

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

All the other teams, and that’s why they never happen despite what BTV accepts. Try the hat, because most likely you may get one that actually happens. Sure can’t get any worse.🤫

BTV has a pretty decent record on getting deals right.

Maybe talk about something you actually know about, assuming there is something.

Once more, I don't suggest trades I think will happen, so acting like that is my motivation is off the mark, again. I expect you will carry on, nevertheless.

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Hitch said:

When did this blood feud between you and Moon start?

It blew up when I  said Red "hates Cora." I apologized for misquoting Red, which is something he has never done, despite misquoting and misrepresenting my views dozens of times.

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

BTV has a pretty decent record on getting deals right.

Maybe talk about something you actually know about, assuming there is something.

Once more, I don't suggest trades I think will happen, so acting like that is my motivation is off the mark, again. I expect you will carry on, nevertheless.

What fun would that be to suggest trades that actually happens when it’s so much easier to play make believe, which never happens. PRICELESS!🙈

[Old Red]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It blew up when I  said Red "hates Cora." I apologized for misquoting Red, which is something he has never done, despite misquoting and misrepresenting my views dozens of times.

While it’s true it started when I first come on here when I said I wouldn’t have hired Cora back, because of the cheating scandal, and MOOn analyzed wrong, and called me a hater, and yes he did apologize, but still continues to not only over analyze, but continues to get most analysis wrong. 

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Old Red said:

What fun would that be to suggest trades that actually happens when it’s so much easier to play make believe, which never happens. PRICELESS!🙈

Fun for who?

I'm not sure why you obsess about this, but to each his own.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, Old Red said:

While it’s true it started when I first come on here when I said I wouldn’t have hired Cora back, because of the cheating scandal, and MOOn analyzed wrong, and called me a hater, and yes he did apologize, but still continues to not only over analyze, but continues to get most analysis wrong. 

So, you continue misrepresenting my positions over and over.

That seems so much better.

At least I readily admit when I'm wrong, which is often enough. At least I state my opinions and predictions clearly and don't waffled and then bloat when semi-correct, like you do.

[notin]

28 minutes ago, Old Red said:

All the other teams, and that’s why they never happen despite what BTV accepts. Try the hat, because most likely you may get one that actually happens. Sure can’t get any worse.🤫

Actually not true.

Most actual trades fit their model.  Probably because teams all use something similar.  It’s a simple model of projections (I’m guessing in fWAR) vs salary.  You don’t think teams use that stuff or something similar when making trades?

And I’ve thrown a few out there that have actually happened in real life.  I’m sure I’m not alone among their users able to make that claim.

But more important, it’s just a forum where people comment on the posted proposals, much like this.  Are forums only supposed to exist that have real world impact? Exactly what have you said on this forum that’s altered the course of the Red Sox? Or me? Or any of us?

[moonslav59]

When you expose Red's misrepresentations and waffling, you are called out for overanalyzing.

 

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Once more, I don't suggest trades I think will happen

Probably 99%+ of all trade proposals don't happen.  I just post them occasionally and read others, and react if I think it makes sense.  I'm not sure why anyone would get upset over it.  I know my proposals for Vientos, Tong, Burns, Crochet, etc., etc., etc., are pretty much unlikely.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Old Red said:

What fun would that be to suggest trades that actually happens

Have you ever once in your life suggested a trade that actually happened?  I doubt I ever did.  Just getting the two teams right is probably under 5%.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, notin said:

Most actual trades fit their model.  Probably because teams all use something similar.

I'd bet that, at least for normal trades, BTV is close.  Projecting prospects, and projecting players with long-term deals into their mid-30s and beyond, is the stuff that even professional GMs get wrong.  But you 5 WAR player with one year left, versus my 3 WAR player with two years left, will be ballpark correct.

[moonslav59]

26 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Probably 99%+ of all trade proposals don't happen.  I just post them occasionally and read others, and react if I think it makes sense.  I'm not sure why anyone would get upset over it.  I know my proposals for Vientos, Tong, Burns, Crochet, etc., etc., etc., are pretty much unlikely.

Some I do just for fun. I trade some players I think are overvalued and wonder, what if...

Others, I try to be serious and think what the other team needs.

Almost all of them give the other team more value, because I try to counter being an obvious homer.

I'm not sure why having fun with this bothers people, or why they feel they need to assign motives to our doing it that are just not true, even after telling them (him) over and over that I'm not doing trade suggestions to try and get "one right."

[moonslav59]

28 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Have you ever once in your life suggested a trade that actually happened?  I doubt I ever did.  Just getting the two teams right is probably under 5%.

I suggested a ton of Chris Sale trades, and maybe have come close, since I know I included Moncada in most, but I did not get one exactly right. That doesn't bother me, at all.

I'm just glad we got Sale.

Ever since I was a kid, I always wondered what we could do to get a really good player from another team. The Sox were active traders and FA signers for many years, so my interest has always been there.

I do have OCD, so I know that's part of it. I'm probably not the only poster that checks MLBTR daily.

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

Have you ever once in your life suggested a trade that actually happened?  I doubt I ever did.  Just getting the two teams right is probably under 5%.

I don’t know if I ever suggested a trade period. I have suggested signing FA like Jansen, who the Red Sox signed a year later, and I said I would have signed Alonso before the signings started taking place, but I’m not into the suggested trade business. I did suggest trading Duran last offseason when his value was highest, but no specific trade.

[moonslav59]

Here's my "Ole Red Midnight Special"

To BOS: Donovan & Mitch Keller

To PIT: Crawford & Witherspoon

To STL: DHam and Seth Hernandez

[Old Red]

54 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Here's my "Ole Red Midnight Special"

To BOS: Donovan & Mitch Keller

To PIT: Crawford & Witherspoon

To STL: DHam and Seth Hernandez

Seems like Donavan is drawing more interest every day with Seattle, and San Fran. The report is Seattle is willing to include top pitching suspect.

[moonslav59]

13 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Seems like Donavan is drawing more interest every day with Seattle, and San Fran. The report is Seattle is willing to include top pitching suspect.

My suggestion gives them a good pitching prospect plus your fave--- DHam.