Red Sox 2025 Season Review/Offseason Preview Thread

[notin]

12 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

CLE mighta made the playoffs with those two.

Cleveland did make the playoffs…

[drewski6]

17 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I read a rumor of Duran + prospects for Lodolo (soon to turn 28.) Lodolo has 2 arbs left, so one less year of control, so maybe the added prospects will not need to be top prospects.

One has to worry if 2025 was an outlier for Lodolo, but he is trending up, while Duran downwards. His ERA+ went from 92 to 137, and his K/BB from 3.3 to 5.0. His FIP barely improved from 3.95 to 3.81. He is a lefty.

Would you call him a projected #2 (top 31-60) SP'er?

Lodolo?

6'6 lefty went 7 overall in the draft, absolutely filthy in college.  Was a top prospect, that took a little while longer than expected to come into his own a lot because of injury but is now coming into his own.

Would ding him a bit for the increased injury risk, but yes.  Well above your average starter/middle-of-the rotation guy.

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, notin said:

I think we can agree on the artificial part, but you’re being fairly generous with the “I” in that label….

Not a fan of Artie Fishel?   

[notin]

1 hour ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Indolence? Letting some other source do the work...

Or trusting an unreliable source: idiocy - insanity - inanity - imbelicika (I typed that in to confuse AI, who didn't recognize the word and had to admit he was an imbelice)

Indolent?

I think I’m rather dolent…

[notin]

15 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Not a fan of Artie Fishel?   

Ummm…. who?

Is he a fan of mine?

[notin]

28 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Lodolo?

6'6 lefty went 7 overall in the draft, absolutely filthy in college.  Was a top prospect, that took a little while longer than expected to come into his own a lot because of injury but is now coming into his own.

Would ding him a bit for the increased injury risk, but yes.  Well above your average starter/middle-of-the rotation guy.

At least 4 inches above average…

[Bellhorn04]

2 minutes ago, notin said:

Ummm…. who?

Is he a fan of mine?

Artie Fishel, the A in AI.  Very smart guy.

[notin]

1 minute ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Artie Fishel, the A in AI.  Very smart guy.

He’s a faker…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Artie Fishel, the A in AI.  Very smart guy.

 Jersey burned down his restaurant so Junior couldn't hit Little Pussy there.

[drewski6]

24 minutes ago, notin said:

At least 4 inches above average…

WEll the height advantage doesnt go away, but thats not the only thing. This dude was the talk of the town in his college, first couple post-college seasons.  Might have the best slurve in MLB.

[drewski6]

I dont see why the reds would trade him, if im being honest.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

I dont see why the reds would trade him, if im being honest.

Reds were 25th in hitting fWAR and 3rd in pitching fWAR. Trade high on a player where you are strong for where you have need? Would they do it? IDK. It's suggested by Sports Illustrated in 2025 so probably not. 

[Cameron Tran]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Reds were 25th in hitting fWAR and 3rd in pitching fWAR. Trade high on a player where you are strong for where you have need? Would they do it? IDK. It's suggested by Sports Illustrated in 2025 so probably not. 

The Reds need offense bad. Burns figures to slide into the rotation. If they decide to bring back Martinez, Lodolo becomes a very valuable asset. I'm not sure how highly other teams value Wilyer, but that feels like.a good match. 

[Cameron Tran]

I was thinking before bed last night about dream, realistic, lineups for 2026, and this was the lineup I came to. It implies a trade of Wilyer and likely Yoshida. Im honestly not sure what to do with KC.

vs RHP

Roman (RF)

Bregman (3B)

Duran (LF)

Pete Alonso (1B)

Casas (DH)

Story (SS)

Mayer (2B)

Narvaez (C)

Rafaela (CF) 

 

vs LHP

Roman (RF)

Romy (2B)

Bregman (3B)

Alonso (1B)

Refsnyder (DH)

Story (SS)

Duran (LF)

Narvaez (C)

Rafaela (CF)

 

Bench:

Mayer/Romy platoon

Casas/Yoshia platoon

Wong (would look into a new backup catcher)

Eaton

Hamilton

 

[Hugh2]

4 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

I wasn't saying YOU, I meant SoxProspects TBH. Some times that get out in front of their skis. 

I mean, I can get that perspective when talking about a specific player, but when they're generally talking about how the organization is much quicker to promote guys, especially pitchers in the game who are performing I think they're just making an observation. 

[mvp 78]

My dream unrealistic lineup for 2026:

C - Carlos Narvaez

1B - Mo Vaughn (BOS era only)

2B - Marcelo Mayer

SS - Mookie Betts

3B - Bill Mueller (2003)

RF - Roman Anthony

CF - Ceddanne Rafaela

LF - Jon Dowd from MVP 04

DH - David Ortiz the 2013 Playoffs Version

[drewski6]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

My dream unrealistic lineup for 2026:

C - Carlos Narvaez

1B - Mo Vaughn (BOS era only)

2B - Marcelo Mayer

SS - Mookie Betts

3B - Bill Mueller (2003)

RF - Roman Anthony

CF - Ceddanne Rafaela

LF - Jon Dowd from MVP 04

DH - David Ortiz the 2013 Playoffs Version

can we get dlowe from 2003 (just the athletics series, with those backdoor sinkers getting called strike 3 lookings)

[Cameron Tran]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

My dream unrealistic lineup for 2026:

C - Carlos Narvaez

1B - Mo Vaughn (BOS era only)

2B - Marcelo Mayer

SS - Mookie Betts

3B - Bill Mueller (2003)

RF - Roman Anthony

CF - Ceddanne Rafaela

LF - Jon Dowd from MVP 04

DH - David Ortiz the 2013 Playoffs Version

cant forget Luis Urias on August 18th and 19th in 2023 with the bases loaded

[drewski6]

10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

My dream unrealistic lineup for 2026:

C - Carlos Narvaez

1B - Mo Vaughn (BOS era only)

2B - Marcelo Mayer

SS - Mookie Betts

3B - Bill Mueller (2003)

RF - Roman Anthony

CF - Ceddanne Rafaela

LF - Jon Dowd from MVP 04

DH - David Ortiz the 2013 Playoffs Version

MVP 2004 didnt have the banger soundtrack that MVP 2005 did

Remember the "hey carrot juice" song

[drewski6]

the home run derby in mvp 2005 with the ramps. So fun

[dgalehouse]

The Sox have apparently identified the culprit responsible for all of the strikeouts. It was assistant hitting coach , Ben Rosenthal. Not to be confused with the distinguished commentator, Ken Rosenthal. Ben Rosenthal has been relieved of his duties, whatever the duties of a second assistant hitting coach may be. 

[mvp 78]

29 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

MVP 2004 didnt have the banger soundtrack that MVP 2005 did

Remember the "hey carrot juice" song

I have a lot of experience with the 04 soundtrack, so I'll disagree. 

1. He's fat and he don't run too fast... but he's faster than me...

2. On another day c'mon c'mon...

3. Please oh please yeah da da da da da yeah! 

4. Here I am with out a dollar to my name will you take me as I am? I'm holding on

5. It's always bittersweet

6. And everything you think is right is really wrong it's really wrong oh it's really wrong

 

 

[mvp 78]

That's just 20 year old brain rot at this point. 

[moonslav59]

11 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

JFC I need to stop smoking so much weed.  My first reaction to this post was "WTF would they DFA Campbell?"  Then I remembered there are two Campbells on the roster. 

I think you're right about Hicks, he's on the books for 3 more years.  The Sox obviously see something in him they like and think they can tinker with.  They probably believe they can get him right with a full offseason in their program. 

Hicks has 2 more year not 3.

2 x $12M with a tax hit at about $10.3M.

Yes, I Campbell is a DFA candidate. K Campbell might be traded.

[Cameron Tran]

If this report of Hunter Greene being available is true, I'd be willing to throw it all at him. KC, Garcia, Abreu or Duran, Perales. Whoever. Only Mayer, Tolle, Early, and Anthony should be considered untouchable if Greene is available. 

[Duran Is The Man]

21 minutes ago, Cameron Tran said:

If this report of Hunter Greene being available is true, I'd be willing to throw it all at him. KC, Garcia, Abreu or Duran, Perales. Whoever. Only Mayer, Tolle, Early, and Anthony should be considered untouchable if Greene is available. 

seems like he's always hurt. trading him for Casas seems fair.

[Hugh2]

12 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Hicks has 2 more year not 3.

2 x $12M with a tax hit at about $10.3M.

Yes, I Campbell is a DFA candidate. K Campbell might be traded.

Correct, same logic applies.  I think Hicks is safe....for now. 

[notin]

29 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Correct, same logic applies.  I think Hicks is safe....for now. 

Hicks was the one player Breslow talked up after the trade.  Most of us just assumed he was a contract deadweight sent back as part of taking Devers whole deal.  Nope.  Apparently Hes a high end reliever or something.

Anyway, he going to the bullpen. Book it…

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, Cameron Tran said:

If this report of Hunter Greene being available is true, I'd be willing to throw it all at him. KC, Garcia, Abreu or Duran, Perales. Whoever. Only Mayer, Tolle, Early, and Anthony should be considered untouchable if Greene is available. 

I don't think Early is untouchable. He's ceiling is 4th starter unless he makes some crazy jump. Tolle's ceiling is higher due to the velo. If you're bringing and ace back, you can deal a guy like Early. 

[mvp 78]

35 minutes ago, notin said:

Hicks was the one player Breslow talked up after the trade.  Most of us just assumed he was a contract deadweight sent back as part of taking Devers whole deal.  Nope.  Apparently Hes a high end reliever or something.

Anyway, he going to the bullpen. Book it…

It is spooky season after all.😬