Red Sox Among Front-Runners To Sign Third Baseman Alex Bregman

[moonslav59]

Burnes to  AZ for about what what MLBR projected: $210M/6. (They projected $200M/7. He was asking for $245M+) $35M a year is a massive amount for an AAV. He just turned 30, so this deal ends at a reasonable 35 years old.

I get the risk involved with this type of deal vs $21M/1 for Buehler. It's not an easy choice to make, even if being cheap was not part of the decision.

[Larry Cook]

Maybe the Mets step up big time for Bergman and we focus on catching and the bullpen! 

[FredLynn]

40 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The next few months will say a lot.  But we still can't see any tangible signs that they're back spending like a big market team again. 

Burnes signed with the DBacks. There are no signs that Henry is serious about making these goons a competitive team. Lets see how much more BS the fans will take before they stop going to the park or buying Flops products. I know I won't be going to the park or supporting this team with my wallet at all. Hopefully many others will join me.

[FredLynn]

31 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Burnes to  AZ for about what what MLBR projected: $210M/6. (They projected $200M/7. He was asking for $245M+) $35M a year is a massive amount for an AAV. He just turned 30, so this deal ends at a reasonable 35 years old.

I get the risk involved with this type of deal vs $21M/1 for Buehler. It's not an easy choice to make, even if being cheap was not part of the decision.

It was apparently an easy choice for the cheapskate Henry to make. A reclamation project for one year vs an established very good SP for 6. How disgusting is this? Cross Burnes and Hernandez off the list. They haven't even met with Sasaki. Bregman is on the decline. I guess Santander would be acceptable, but we aren't getting him either. Everyone should hold their noses. Again. I am already counting these buffoons out of October baseball.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, FredLynn said:

It was apparently an easy choice for the cheapskate Henry to make. A reclamation project for one year vs an established very good SP for 6. How disgusting is this? Cross Burnes and Hernandez off the list. They haven't even met with Sasaki. Bregman is on the decline. I guess Santander would be acceptable, but we aren't getting him either. Everyone should hold their noses. Again. I am already counting these buffoons out of October baseball.

It's looking that way.

I'm not a Bregman fan, at all, and it has nothing to do with cheating. His .795 OPS over the last 5 years. He's really good on D at 3B, and that would help the whole staff. I'm pretty confident Devers could upgrade the 1B defense, but if not, he and Casas can share DH duty when not playing 1B. Neither would need days off for rest, so we could keep  both bats in the lineup over 160 games, if they can both stay healthy.

He may be the best we can do. It's sad that it has come down to hoping we get the best of the rest.

[vegasbob]

Bregman can only make sense as one of a domino chain that includes Casas being traded and relocating Devers . It does not address Yoshida's  contract for a DH , batting from the left side on a team heavy with LH'ers.    

You would like to think there is string of significant moves yet to make but the majority of major talents have already moved .    With a month and a half to go to ST , Breslow still has significant work to do.  Not the least is a productive catcher  to backup Wong.

[moonslav59]

7 hours ago, vegasbob said:

Bregman can only make sense as one of a domino chain that includes Casas being traded and relocating Devers . It does not address Yoshida's  contract for a DH , batting from the left side on a team heavy with LH'ers.    

You would like to think there is string of significant moves yet to make but the majority of major talents have already moved .    With a month and a half to go to ST , Breslow still has significant work to do.  Not the least is a productive catcher  to backup Wong.

Ideally, it would be Bregman at 3B and Devers/Casas sharing the 1B/DH slots. Both could get all the rest they need while DH'ing and would not need more than a day or two off, all year, unless injured.

That forces the $18M Man to the bench or LF (EEEK!) or trade for whatever money we can save. Apparently a few million matters to JH.

Once Campbell or Anthony start making a statement, we can then trade Rafaela and or Abreu plus DHam or Romy/Grissom to fill other needs, and maybe we can cobble together a truly competitive team.

I see no hint that are serious about AB or any other of the remaining handful of significant FAs left who fit our needs.

[mvp 78]

And the Sox would sign him to play 2b for some stupid reason anyway. Pass. 

[Old Red]

29 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

And the Sox would sign him to play 2b for some stupid reason anyway. Pass. 

Both Brez, and Cora have said Raffy is the 3B, and have said right along. Supposedly Casas was being shopped to Seattle at one time for pitching, but I don’t see that happening now, but I don’t now what the plan would have been if Casas had been moved. 

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Both Brez, and Cora have said Raffy is the 3B, and have said right along. Supposedly Casas was being shopped to Seattle at one time for pitching, but I don’t see that happening now, but I don’t now what the plan would have been if Casas had been moved. 

It would be dumb to say "we're moving Devers to 1B" publicly without having the pieces to move first. I'm sure they've talked about it internally, which is why they were prepared to move Casas. 

[Old Red]

12 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It would be dumb to say "we're moving Devers to 1B" publicly without having the pieces to move first. I'm sure they've talked about it internally, which is why they were prepared to move Casas. 

They didn’t have to say anything at all, and I’m not so sure they’ve talked about it internally. Some on here thinks it would be an easy move, and I don’t, and nor do I think he would want to do it.

[Bellhorn04]

Looks like another year of Raffy being the worst defender at his position in baseball.  

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, Old Red said:

They didn’t have to say anything at all, and I’m not so sure they’ve talked about it internally. Some on here thinks it would be an easy move, and I don’t, and nor do I think he would want to do it.

Just like how people said that they haven't considered a 6 man rotation and then...

 

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Looks like another year of Raffy being the worst defender at his position in baseball.  

Well, he wasn't the worst last year or the year before or the year before that. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I'm now in the camp of signing Bregman, but only if he's the new third baseman.

I just don't want to block the Minor League HITTER of the Year at second base. 

I also don't care who plays first base between Casas and Devers; the other can DH.

And here's where I differ from most of the Nation: I really don't care if Yoshida is still on the team; he doesn't suck as a batter, but his contract does. Might as well let him play a little leftfield, where he's hardly the worst outfielder in the history of Franchy.

Masa can play a few of O'Neill's missing innings in left (and hopefully raise his value) until Anthony is ready to take over fulltime. 

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Well, he wasn't the worst last year or the year before or the year before that. 

Close though?

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Just like how people said that they haven't considered a 6 man rotation and then...

 

Craig says a lot of stuff.  He questioned why anyone would be talking about trading Casas, and then tried to do just that.

I like him, but when it comes to leveling with us, these guys are all the same!  

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Close though?

#32 out of 34 from 2022 to 2024, according to OAA (-16.) Wisdom & Burger were worse.

#34 out of 35 '22-'24, according to DRS (-24.) Only Bohm was worse (-27.)

With different players coming up slightly worse than Devers on these two lists, one could argue Devers comes out as the worst or tied for worst.

Anyway, is it really that much better if he's 29th or 28th?

We need to give our pitchers a break by providing them with a plus defense behind them, and the place to start is corner IF. (We have to just hope Story bring more stability to our MI.) Catcher is another task that needs to be addressed.

 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Just like how people said that they haven't considered a 6 man rotation and then...

 

He's just trying to give hope to guys like Crawford, Fitts, Priester, Criswell and Fulmer.

[Bellhorn04]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

#32 out of 34 from 2022 to 2024, according to OAA (-16.) Wisdom & Burger were worse.

#34 out of 35 '22-'24, according to DRS (-24.) Only Bohm was worse (-27.)

With different players coming up slightly worse than Devers on these two lists, one could argue Devers comes out as the worst or tied for worst.

Anyway, is it really that much better if he's 29th or 28th?

We need to give our pitchers a break by providing them with a plus defense behind them, and the place to start is corner IF. (We have to just hope Story bring more stability to our MI.) Catcher is another task that needs to be addressed.

 

And thus far they have done jack diddlesquat about it, and none of us are actually surprised.

[moonslav59]

47 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

And thus far they have done jack diddlesquat about it, and none of us are actually surprised.

3 years of god-awful defense at 3B, and the talk is about how much they want to keep Devers at 3B, even if they add Bregman or Arenado.

This is gross incompetence, or just a ruse to keep Devers happy, at least until they actually add a real 3Bman.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

And thus far they have done jack diddlesquat about it, and none of us are actually surprised.

Wha-- didn't you hear Craig? They hired different practice coaches!

(that was the reason Brez gave that Devers would be a better third baseman this year...)

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Close though?

He's down there. 

[mvp 78]

23 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

3 years of god-awful defense at 3B, and the talk is about how much they want to keep Devers at 3B, even if they add Bregman or Arenado.

This is gross incompetence, or just a ruse to keep Devers happy, at least until they actually add a real 3Bman.

They didn't miss the playoffs in '19, '20, '22, '23 or '24 because of his defense. 

[drewski6]

36 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

3 years of god-awful defense at 3B, and the talk is about how much they want to keep Devers at 3B, even if they add Bregman or Arenado.

This is gross incompetence, or just a ruse to keep Devers happy, at least until they actually add a real 3Bman.

Or they see third base defense as problem #8 to be addressed and arent going to get that far down their list.

[drewski6]

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They didn't miss the playoffs in '19, '20, '22, '23 or '24 because of his defense. 

Agreed. Its fine enough. Im more worried about him getting hurt.

[Old Red]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

3 years of god-awful defense at 3B, and the talk is about how much they want to keep Devers at 3B, even if they add Bregman or Arenado.

This is gross incompetence, or just a ruse to keep Devers happy, at least until they actually add a real 3Bman.

Are you just now figuring this out. Devers is not a good 3B, and he’s shown Nothing to think he’d be a good 1B. He’s not a Boomer Scott, or even Youck who moved over, and became good 1B. I think Devers has a fragile psyche, and would not want to do it anyway, and it would not turn out as good, or as easy as you think.

[mvp 78]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/alex-bregman-rumors-no-short-term-deal.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky

Scott Boras tells Bob Nightengale of USA Today that his client remains focused on a longer-term pact and suggests that there’s ample interest to make that happen.

“Bregman’s a championship player, teams know it,” Boras tells Nightengale. “It’s really a matter of his decision-making and theirs, about how you can close up that gap. There’s substantial interest (in long-term) deals.”

Nightengale adds that the Blue Jays, Red Sox and Tigers are among the teams still “engaged” with Bregman. 

[Bellhorn04]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/01/alex-bregman-rumors-no-short-term-deal.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky

Scott Boras tells Bob Nightengale of USA Today that his client remains focused on a longer-term pact and suggests that there’s ample interest to make that happen.

“Bregman’s a championship player, teams know it,” Boras tells Nightengale. “It’s really a matter of his decision-making and theirs, about how you can close up that gap. There’s substantial interest (in long-term) deals.”

Nightengale adds that the Blue Jays, Red Sox and Tigers are among the teams still “engaged” with Bregman. 

Eerily reminiscent of Montgomery last year.

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Eerily reminiscent of Montgomery last year.

I've seen the Jays linked to Alonso too. If they sign Alonso, Bregman will really have nowhere else to go. I don't buy the Tigers have any real interest. They've struggled with attendance for the past 7 years. I think they are better off building with their younger guys than signing someone who can be their next Baez (well maybe not THAT bad) at some point.