A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I

[Soxlover]

12 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Can never have enough arms.

I think there is a good chance Campbell joins the 40, at some point in2024 and pitches for the Sox.

12 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Can never have enough arms.

 

[Larry Cook]

48 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

The talk on Campbell before 2024 was pretty good. I’m not sure why one injury season changes the narrative all that much.

After we cut him, nobody stepped up to sign him. Another team would rather have horn than Campbell. Kind of sad if you think about it 

[Soxlover]

8 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

After we cut him, nobody stepped up to sign him. Another team would rather have horn than Campbell. Kind of sad if you think about it 

You don’t know how many teams inquired into signing Campbell.

I did think he was better than Horn, and maybe the injury played into the choices other teams made.

IMO, he offers more hope than many others we will have inAAA and maybe even 13th on the ML staff

[notin]

21 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Can never have enough arms.

Ah the American Cold War strategy…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 minute ago, notin said:

Ah the American Cold War strategy…

Arms are ok for competitions and collectors. But too many seem to get weaponized, for some reason.

[notin]

Finally!!

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/11/red-sox-reportedly-considering-moving-rafael-devers-to-first-base.html
 

[Bellhorn04]

9 minutes ago, notin said:

Finally!!

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/11/red-sox-reportedly-considering-moving-rafael-devers-to-first-base.html
 

McAdam also reports they're considering a trade for Arenado.

All well and good, but they also have to figure out to do with Casas and Yoshida.  This would be potentially pretty expensive in one way or another. 

Personally, at the moment I'd rather they focus on Soto and pitching.

 

[Soxlover]

Devers to 1B would improve the defense, immensely 

[Randy Red Sox]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

McAdam also reports they're considering a trade for Arenado.

All well and good, but they also have to figure out to do with Casas and Yoshida.  This would be potentially pretty expensive in one way or another. 

Personally, at the moment I'd rather they focus on Soto and pitching.

 

Sign Fried or Burnes and Teoscar and then a solid reliever and a back up C. Anthony will be here soon to fill RF. There should still room for another 33 type SP as well.

[Randy Red Sox]

12 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Devers to 1B would improve the defense, immensely 

and what do you do with Casas?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, Soxlover said:

Devers to 1B would improve the defense, immensely 

How about: Devers off 3B would improve the defense, immensely...

... if he can play a passable 1B, it could even help the D on the other side of the infield.

Plus, adding a formidable righty-swinging bat at 3B helps balance the batting order.

And since Brez stated he needed to improve both the defense and offense, this type of move makes too much sense (especially with a pitching coach who stresses pitch-to-weak-contact breaking balls).

[notin]

2 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

and what do you do with Casas?

DH, trade, or maybe he has an “accident”…

[notin]

1 hour ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

How about: Devers off 3B would improve the defense, immensely...

... if he can play a passable 1B, it could even help the D on the other side of the infield.

Plus, adding a formidable righty-swinging bat at 3B helps balance the batting order.

And since Brez stated he needed to improve both the defense and offense, this type of move makes too much sense (especially with a pitching coach who stresses pitch-to-weak-contact breaking balls).

Hopefully not that whiny b*tch Alex Bregman…

[win red sox]

4 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

How about: Devers off 3B would improve the defense, immensely...

... if he can play a passable 1B, it could even help the D on the other side of the infield.

Plus, adding a formidable righty-swinging bat at 3B helps balance the batting order.

And since Brez stated he needed to improve both the defense and offense, this type of move makes too much sense (especially with a pitching coach who stresses pitch-to-weak-contact breaking balls).

There's nothing formidable about Arenado's bat. The decline over that last couple years is real, he's basically unplayable against LHP.  

[Soxlover]

7 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

and what do you do with Casas?

To DH or share 1B|DH w Devers or trade Casas for pitching.

[Soxlover]

6 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

How about: Devers off 3B would improve the defense, immensely...

... if he can play a passable 1B, it could even help the D on the other side of the infield.

Plus, adding a formidable righty-swinging bat at 3B helps balance the batting order.

And since Brez stated he needed to improve both the defense and offense, this type of move makes too much sense (especially with a pitching coach who stresses pitch-to-weak-contact breaking balls).

I think Devers can be better on D than Casas at 1B within 6-8 weeks.

[Larry Cook]

25 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

I think Devers can be better on D than Casas at 1B within 6-8 weeks.

Are we sure devers can play first base? 
I am not sure he can catch a cold at a pneumonia clinic let alone catch a baseball 

[Hitch]

15 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

and what do you do with Casas?

Trade him for pitching. 

I really hope the rumour about moving Devers is true. He;s a horrible 3rd baseman. 

[mvp 78]

20 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

McAdam also reports they're considering a trade for Arenado.

All well and good, but they also have to figure out to do with Casas and Yoshida.  This would be potentially pretty expensive in one way or another. 

Personally, at the moment I'd rather they focus on Soto and pitching.

 

Why Arenado? Adding an expensive contract for an aging player? I'm not into it. Unless they are expecting a Mike Lowell turnaround. He's two years older than when they acquired Lowell though.

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Hitch said:

Trade him for pitching. 

I really hope the rumour about moving Devers is true. He;s a horrible 3rd baseman. 

And Casas is a terrible 1B that struggles to stay healthy. 

[mvp 78]

12 hours ago, win red sox said:

There's nothing formidable about Arenado's bat. The decline over that last couple years is real, he's basically unplayable against LHP.  

Really weird that he stopped being able to hit lefties in '23 and '24. 

[Hitch]

41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

And Casas is a terrible 1B that struggles to stay healthy. 

Agreed. Not sure how Devers will feel about it after his agent saying he is a 3rd baseman earlier in the off season, but hopefully we'll find out.

 

Not breaking new ground here, but his bat is going to need to keep playing to a high level for this not to look like a bad contract. 

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, Hitch said:

Agreed. Not sure how Devers will feel about it after his agent saying he is a 3rd baseman earlier in the off season, but hopefully we'll find out.

 

Not breaking new ground here, but his bat is going to need to keep playing to a high level for this not to look like a bad contract. 

Put Cora, Ramon Vazquez and Jose Flores (infield instructor) on a plane to DR and have a sit down with Devers. I'm sure they can work it out. The person who should be worried about this conversation is Casas. 

[Hitch]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

Put Cora, Ramon Vazquez and Jose Flores (infield instructor) on a plane to DR and have a sit down with Devers. I'm sure they can work it out. The person who should be worried about this conversation is Casas. 

If it does come to pass, I'm going to be very interested to see how other teams value Casas. He seems to be just about holding onto his value at the moment, but I imagine his market might be smaller than we'd hope. Especially if the hope is starting pitching in return.

[Hitch]

57 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why Arenado? Adding an expensive contract for an aging player? I'm not into it. Unless they are expecting a Mike Lowell turnaround. He's two years older than when they acquired Lowell though.

We've been linked with Adames enough for me to think it's actually him that we're looking at and sliding him over if it comes to it. 

 

Not sure how I feel about that. 

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Hitch said:

If it does come to pass, I'm going to be very interested to see how other teams value Casas. He seems to be just about holding onto his value at the moment, but I imagine his market might be smaller than we'd hope. Especially if the hope is starting pitching in return.

It'd clearly be a package deal. 

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, Hitch said:

We've been linked with Adames enough for me to think it's actually him that we're looking at and sliding him over if it comes to it. 

 

Not sure how I feel about that. 

I don't want any part of Adames. I'd trade for Arenado if STL was willing to take Masa's full contract and a mid level prospect. 

[drewski6]

20 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

and what do you do with Casas?

Flipped for Crochet?

[drewski6]

I wouldnt be shocked at all if Arrenado resurges. Not saying Id expect it or reflect it and what Im willing to give up , but 5 years ago this guy had hall-of-fame caliber years. He was a true stud.  Not implying that Im regardless of cost.

[mvp 78]

The one thing about Arenado is he is a dead pull hitter (45%+). However, I think he has more of a line drive swing and would lose HR's to the monster that would turn to doubles.