Red Sox 2024 Spring Training

[Hitch]

I heard an interview with McAdams this morning, and he said his opinion was it was only a 10% chance of signing Monty before Gio was injured,and now he believes it’s gone down to 5%. He said Monty wasn’t good enough to take a 500, or below team, and make it a playoff contender, so he didn’t see JH giving the go ahead for Monty.

 

Yeah, I listened to the same podcast.

 

Which makes perfect sense. It might seem counterintuitive (we really need pitching now), but if they didn't believe Monty was going to make a big enough difference in the amount of wins we'd get before Gio went down, there's no point spending all that money to be bang average now.

 

Boras was straight out after the Gio injury calming teams were in crisis pitching wise and that calls were flooding in for his two pitchers. I'm all for players getting the money over the owners, but I'd love for Boras to get a couple of black eyes on this. He constantly holds up the market and is massively against a free agent signing period, which the sport could badly do with. Just in terms of getting eyeballs on it if nothing else.

[mvp 78]

I agree, and I’ve been saying that for sometime now that you don’t have to wait until you really think that now is the time to go for it to improve the team.

 

Unfortunately, Henry doesn't see it that way. He only wants to spend once they are a true playoff contender. Fans just take it on the chin over and over again.

[Bellhorn04]

Yes, well done Notin, temper tantrums and throwing the ball over the wall are definitely in the same category as being accused of rape by 4 separate women and literally beating the f*** out of them. Clown.

 

To answer your last question, yes, if a player is accused of sexual assault and/or battery, especially by multiple women, one of which made her complaint and tried to take out a restraining order a full year before the main story broke, the Red Sox should stay the f*** away, (as the sport should have told Chapman to f*** off and do something else after he beat his partner), unless there is irrefutable evidence a person has been wrongly accused.

 

I just can't get my head around how yourself and others who are not only fine with signing Bauer but actively want to, are okay with your kids cheering this rancid f*** on, or able to look the women and girls in your lives in the eye?

 

"I mean sure look ladies, I know there's photographic evidence of literal battery of women, testimony from a rape nurse who in her own words said: 'I had never seen that before,' while describing the amount and colour of bruising around the woman's genitals, but look, one of the women tried to blackmail him and he's pitching to under a 4 ERA while costing only league minimum so..."

 

That sport is so important to people that they'll put up with anything for wins is bad enough, but watching people flounder to make it about second chances (did he really even do anything wrong?) is insufferable.

 

We could have an endless debate about this, but however we feel, the fact is that Bauer, Urias, Clevinger, A. Chapman and D. German are all eligible to play major league baseball.

[Hitch]

We could have an endless debate about this, but however we feel, the fact is that Bauer, Urias, Clevinger, A. Chapman and D. German are all eligible to play major league baseball.

 

Not a single person is arguing differently.

[notin]

LOL, wut?

 

"however, one name stands out as having not come up in the rumor mill at all to this point in the winter: veteran right-hander Mike Clevinger."

 

You got a link? I couldn't find anything connecting them.

 

I can find numerous article about Clevinger expressing interest in Boston. Nothing about if they talked or not.

 

Either way, he seems like a scumbag...

[mvp 78]

We could have an endless debate about this, but however we feel, the fact is that Bauer, Urias, Clevinger, A. Chapman and D. German are all eligible to play major league baseball.

 

If any team wants to sign them, they are free to do so. The Sox could sign Bauer, Urias, Clevinger and German if they wanted to. Hard to put that on a lame duck manager though.

[mvp 78]

I can find numerous article about Clevinger expressing interest in Boston. Nothing about if they talked or not.

 

Either way, he seems like a scumbag...

 

Giolito noted that he would love it if Clevinger came to the Sox and said he would advocate for him. I just hadn't heard anything aside from "baseball insiders believe Clevinger is a good fit for the BoSox because they are cheap and need starting pitching help."

[Hitch]

According to

@alexspeier

, the Red Sox and Brayan Bello are in “advanced talks” on a long-term extension.

 

“According to multiple industry sources, Red Sox righthander Brayan Bello is in advanced talks about an agreement on a long-term deal with the Red Sox. The deal would keep Bello with the team beyond 2028, when he would first be eligible for free agency.”

[mvp 78]

According to

@alexspeier

, the Red Sox and Brayan Bello are in “advanced talks” on a long-term extension.

 

“According to multiple industry sources, Red Sox righthander Brayan Bello is in advanced talks about an agreement on a long-term deal with the Red Sox. The deal would keep Bello with the team beyond 2028, when he would first be eligible for free agency.”

 

I mean, why would they sign him only through 2028? I guess it's just info for the reader, but duh!

 

Casas should be done first though.

[Hitch]

I mean, why would they sign him only through 2028? I guess it's just info for the reader, but duh!

 

Casas should be done first though.

 

I'm not a big lover of extending pitchers, but position players for sure. It'll be interesting to see what they're working out with Bello.

[mvp 78]

I'm not a big lover of extending pitchers, but position players for sure. It'll be interesting to see what they're working out with Bello.

 

There are some decent comps out there, but the money should be manageable. With Bello, you hope for his stuff to tick up after the extension and that you are underpaying a healthy #2 for 7 years or whatever.

[cp176]

I mean, why would they sign him only through 2028? I guess it's just info for the reader, but duh!

 

Casas should be done first though.

 

Casas didn't show much interest in signing long term for what the Sox were offering. He is pretty confident with respect to what he can do I think.

[notin]

It’s nice to see the Sox for once not waiting until a player has 4-5 years before they try to extend him…

[jad]

Yes, well done Notin, temper tantrums and throwing the ball over the wall are definitely in the same category as being accused of rape by 4 separate women and literally beating the f*** out of them. Clown.

 

To answer your last question, yes, if a player is accused of sexual assault and/or battery, especially by multiple women, one of which made her complaint and tried to take out a restraining order a full year before the main story broke, the Red Sox should stay the f*** away, (as the sport should have told Chapman to f*** off and do something else after he beat his partner), unless there is irrefutable evidence a person has been wrongly accused.

 

I just can't get my head around how yourself and others who are not only fine with signing Bauer but actively want to, are okay with your kids cheering this rancid f*** on, or able to look the women and girls in your lives in the eye?

 

"I mean sure look ladies, I know there's photographic evidence of literal battery of women, testimony from a rape nurse who in her own words said: 'I had never seen that before,' while describing the amount and colour of bruising around the woman's genitals, but look, one of the women tried to blackmail him and he's pitching to under a 4 ERA while costing only league minimum so..."

 

That sport is so important to people that they'll put up with anything for wins is bad enough, but watching people flounder to make it about second chances (did he really even do anything wrong?) is insufferable.

 

Agree 100%

[jad]

We know. And that makes him guilty to you.

 

I’ll admit he seems like an *******. But I bet he has that in common with more players in MLB than we all realize…

 

More evidence of a FO bot.

 

You know, Charles Manson had a beard, but lots of guys have beards, so what's the problem?

[Hitch]

Casas didn't show much interest in signing long term for what the Sox were offering. He is pretty confident with respect to what he can do I think.

 

Yeah I get the impression that he'll back himself all the way unless we really impress him with an offer.

[vegasbob]

Oh yes, it is still early and all SSS and the imagined starting lineup hasn't played enough to get ready, BUT usually in ST one or two guys are hot out of the gate and put up some numbers that make you notice. No one on this roster is notably doing so, yet.

[mvp 78]

Oh yes, it is still early and all SSS and the imagined starting lineup hasn't played enough to get ready, BUT usually in ST one or two guys are hot out of the gate and put up some numbers that make you notice. No one on this roster is notably doing so, yet.

 

Devers 1529 OPS

Sogard 1341 OPS

 

Guerrero, Hagenman, Slaten, Campbell - 0.00 ERA, WHIPs under 1.00

[Randy Red Sox]

Yeah I get the impression that he'll back himself all the way unless we really impress him with an offer.

 

let us know when Casas gets a hit this spring

[Randy Red Sox]

It’s nice to see the Sox for once not waiting until a player has 4-5 years before they try to extend him…

 

yeah b ut are they REALLY trying to extend him?

[moonslav59]

yeah b ut are they REALLY trying to extend him?

 

Just some fluff to try and counter the bad news on Gio.

 

I doubt we extend Bello or Casas, this year.

[Larry Cook]

Just some fluff to try and counter the bad news on Gio.

 

I doubt we extend Bello or Casas, this year.

 

Someone is reporting that we are working on an extension for bello

[moonslav59]

Someone is reporting that we are working on an extension for bello

 

I read that and was responding to it.

 

I'm saying it might just be part of the ongoing sham to brighten up our hopes (only to dash them, later with a no deal reached.)

[Hugh2]

Apparently it’s 5 year deal and it’s done, conflicting reports about being announced this weekend or within the next few hours.

 

Assuming it starts after this season they gain ONE year of control? They really don’t wanna sign any pitchers into their 30’s so they? I hope there’s a few option years attached.

[Hitch]

Just some fluff to try and counter the bad news on Gio.

 

I doubt we extend Bello or Casas, this year.

 

You, along with plenty of others, have lost the ability to think rationally about the Sox this off season.

 

Do you really think Alex Speier is reporting the Sox are close on an extension and that it's imminent without speaking to Bello's people first as well?

[moonslav59]

Apparently it’s 5 year deal and it’s done, conflicting reports about being announced this weekend or within the next few hours.

 

Assuming it starts after this season they gain ONE year of control? They really don’t wanna sign any pitchers into their 30’s so they? I hope there’s a few option years attached.

 

It's pretty common for these deals to just go 1-2 years beyond the end of control.

[moonslav59]

You, along with plenty of others, have lost the ability to think rationally about the Sox this off season.

 

Do you really think Alex Speier is reporting the Sox are close on an extension and that it's imminent without speaking to Bello's people first as well?

 

All I read was "Advanced talks." If I missed something, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.

 

I admit, I am stuck on this whole sham thing, and may be blinded by that.

 

I hope we extend him. It would make sense and calm the waters a bit. It also fits their longer term plans.

 

[Hugh2]

There’s a difference between reporting rumors on free agents. Said interest can be real but every other team out there can be in on a player too, agents can also leak interest or exaggerate interest to raise a players cost.

 

This is a Red Sox player under team control for the next ten years. There’s no reason to exaggerate these claims.

 

Also Alex Speier is one of the good guys, probably one of the most trustworthy Sox reporters I’ve read. If he’s reporting it, I trust it’s true. I think you can pretty much take it to the bank that they’re extending Bello at this point

[moonslav59]

There’s a difference between reporting rumors on free agents. Said interest can be real but every other team out there can be in on a player too, agents can also leak interest or exaggerate interest to raise a players cost.

 

This is a Red Sox player under team control for the next ten years. There’s no reason to exaggerate these claims.

 

Also Alex Speier is one of the good guys, probably one of the most trustworthy Sox reporters I’ve read. If he’s reporting it, I trust it’s true. I think you can pretty much take it to the bank that they’re extending Bello at this point

 

I never saw the word "imminent."

 

Sometimes talks break down, but it does sound very encouraging.

 

It is probably very rare, when "advanced talks" is reported and then no deal is made.

 

BTW, I wasn't doubting Speier. I wasn't sure where the info he got was from. If it came from the Sox, I'd doubt anything. It wouldn't make Speier wrong for reporting what he was told.

 

It does look like he will be extended. I'm happy for that. I hope it works out well. It should.

[Hugh2]

I never saw the word "imminent."

 

Sometimes talks break down, but it does sound very encouraging.

 

It is probably very rare, when "advanced talks" is reported and then no deal is made.

 

BTW, I wasn't doubting Speier. I wasn't sure where the info he got was from. If it came from the Sox, I'd doubt anything. It wouldn't make Speier wrong for reporting what he was told.

 

It does look like he will be extended. I'm happy for that. I hope it works out well. It should.

 

Talks break down all the time, I just view contract extensions a little differently. There's no team out there bidding against us, and it's not like he has years of success under his belt and more of an incentive to pitch good for 1-2 more years to bet on himself. This is the time to get it done.

 

If I was a guessing man, I'd guess the framework of an extension is predominately agreed upon between the two sides but they are hammering out the years. 5 years and then what? an option year or two? I'd really like to see some option years at the end of an extension that only buys out ONE of his FA years.