Playoffs

[Bellhorn04]

His BABIP would have been way worse in BOS too.

 

Still 4 wins better than Kluber for $7 million more.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

His BABIP would have been way worse in BOS too.

 

Good point. Eovaldi would've had to pitch to less contact in bEantown, shred a few more ligaments and tendons by midseason, and turn into another Boston bum arm.

[Bellhorn04]

Good point. Eovaldi would've had to pitch to less contact in bEantown, shred a few more ligaments and tendons by midseason, and turn into another Boston bum arm.

 

Bloom's parting gift was to make the 2023 roster so flawed that we wouldn't have to worry about a few better hindsight moves making enough of a difference.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Bloom's parting gift was to make the 2023 roster so flawed that we wouldn't have to worry about a few better hindsight moves making enough of a difference.

 

But... if everything just went right... we could've played on the waterfront. Insteada being bums.

[mvp 78]

Still 4 wins better than Kluber for $7 million more.

 

Oh, he would have been worth the contract, but people would have still complained.

[mvp 78]

But... if everything just went right... we could've played on the waterfront. Insteada being bums.

 

Tear down Fenway!

[notin]

Bloom's parting gift was to make the 2023 roster so flawed that we wouldn't have to worry about a few better hindsight moves making enough of a difference.

 

And yet it was still 2 games Out at the August deadline and still win 78 after the “collapse.”

 

This was essentially a .500 team. I think if some Pirates’ fans or A’s fans posted here, they’d scream and cry at the entitlement…

[mvp 78]

And yet it was still 2 games Out at the August deadline and still win 78 after the “collapse.”

 

This was essentially a .500 team. I think if some Pirates’ fans or A’s fans posted here, they’d scream and cry at the entitlement…

 

At least the Pirates fans could commiserate about Cherington.

[Bellhorn04]

Oh, he would have been worth the contract, but people would have still complained.

 

True, but why do we talk about that as if it matters?

[mvp 78]

True, but why do we talk about that as if it matters?

 

We talk about a lot of s*** that doesn't matter.

[Duran Is The Man]

Even this year, Eovaldi only threw 144 regular season innings. People would've been livid here calling him a failed signing.

 

i don't think so. 144 innings would have been second to Bello's 157.

[Dipre]

i don't think so. 144 innings would have been second to Bello's 157.

 

At 10x the price,

[notin]

We talk about a lot of s*** that doesn't matter.

 

Do we talk about anything that does?

[notin]

At least the Pirates fans could commiserate about Cherington.

 

I don’t think their problems begin or end with Cherington…

[notin]

i don't think so. 144 innings would have been second to Bello's 157.

 

And 42 more than Sale. And we all universally agree on that bargain…

[dgalehouse]

If they had Eovaldi and Senga instead of Kluber and Yoshida, would the Sox have made the playoffs ? How about Schwarber instead of Story ?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If they had Eovaldi and Senga instead of Kluber and Yoshida, would the Sox have made the playoffs ? How about Schwarber instead of Story ?

 

Dubon instead of Thornburg? Think the worst defensive clowns could've used a guy nominated for Gold Gloves at two positions?

[notin]

If they had Eovaldi and Senga instead of Kluber and Yoshida, would the Sox have made the playoffs ? How about Schwarber instead of Story ?

 

Schwarber would be a horrible shortstop. Almost Kike-level…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Schwarber would be a horrible shortstop. Almost Kike-level…

 

At least with his limited range, he wouldn't get to airmail many throws. And he wouldn't even go to his right, lest he step in something Raffy spit. Yabadaba-don't.

[Hugh2]

If they had Eovaldi and Senga instead of Kluber and Yoshida, would the Sox have made the playoffs ? How about Schwarber instead of Story ?

 

No. I think maybe they’re a .500 team

 

Senga + Schwarber maybe add 4 wins.

 

Not sure how much of an over upgrade Schwarber is over Yoshida because the step down in defense is bad. According to fangraphs it’s about a 1/2 war. Let’s round that up to a win. You probably win 3-4 more games with Senga and maybe lose 1 less with Kluber gone.

 

Maybe a slightly better team breeds a better mentality and less of a September dip? And they add even 5 more wins.

 

87 wins still doesn’t get them a wild card, but it gets you close.

 

This is of course….. the insanely subjecting.

[jad]

I see no one is posting on the other playoff thread either. Likely because the average baseball fan doesn't give a cr*p. So today, the news comes out that the WS game 1 was the least viewed in history. None of the best teams are here, several of whom didn't even play in the first round. Manfred today comes out with strong support of the new format. The idiotic idea of endless playoffs was established (I assume copying the NBA) on the theory that it would bring in millions in revenue and keep fans on the edge of their seats. If this board is any indication, the 'average fan' is more interested in any one of the 162 regular games played by their team than in any playoff game during which their team is golfing.

[mvp 78]

I see no one is posting on the other playoff thread either. Likely because the average baseball fan doesn't give a cr*p. So today, the news comes out that the WS game 1 was the least viewed in history. None of the best teams are here, several of whom didn't even play in the first round. Manfred today comes out with strong support of the new format. The idiotic idea of endless playoffs was established (I assume copying the NBA) on the theory that it would bring in millions in revenue and keep fans on the edge of their seats. If this board is any indication, the 'average fan' is more interested in any one of the 162 regular games played by their team than in any playoff game during which their team is golfing.

 

The previous 3 WS were the lowest rated in history. This is just following the recent trend. People just don't care about MLB that much anymore. They like going to games here and there. Population has increased so there are more fans to buy more tickets so it looks like there is more fan interest, but it's just not really there except for casual fandom. Also, MLB has done such a s*** job of marketing players that people in other markets have no real clue who plays on other teams. Corbin Carroll, Zac Gallen, Corey Seager and Marcus Semien should be household names.

[Old Red]

The previous 3 WS were the lowest rated in history. This is just following the recent trend. People just don't care about MLB that much anymore. They like going to games here and there. Population has increased so there are more fans to buy more tickets so it looks like there is more fan interest, but it's just not really there except for casual fandom. Also, MLB has done such a s*** job of marketing players that people in other markets have no real clue who plays on other teams. Corbin Carroll, Zac Gallen, Corey Seager and Marcus Semien should be household names.

 

The stars of today don’t come close to the stars of yesterday when it comes to household names. When I started out as a fan the SP had as big a name as the sluggers. Koufax, Gibson, Mays, Mantle, Aaron, and Clemente just aren’t around anymore. The names you mentioned just doesn’t register against with the greats of the past.

[Dipre]

The stars of today don’t come close to the stars of yesterday when it comes to household names. When I started out as a fan the SP had as big a name as the sluggers. Koufax, Gibson, Mays, Mantle, Aaron, and Clemente just aren’t around anymore. The names you mentioned just doesn’t register against with the greats of the past.

 

This might be the coldest take I've ever read regarding baseball ever.

[Bellhorn04]

The previous 3 WS were the lowest rated in history. This is just following the recent trend. People just don't care about MLB that much anymore. They like going to games here and there. Population has increased so there are more fans to buy more tickets so it looks like there is more fan interest, but it's just not really there except for casual fandom. Also, MLB has done such a s*** job of marketing players that people in other markets have no real clue who plays on other teams. Corbin Carroll, Zac Gallen, Corey Seager and Marcus Semien should be household names.

 

As long as people are betting like lunatics on the games, it's all good!

[Bellhorn04]

The stars of today don’t come close to the stars of yesterday when it comes to household names. When I started out as a fan the SP had as big a name as the sluggers. Koufax, Gibson, Mays, Mantle, Aaron, and Clemente just aren’t around anymore. The names you mentioned just doesn’t register against with the greats of the past.

 

You have to keep in mind we're a lot older now so that changes the perspective hugely.

 

Corey Seager is an awesome player and should be recognized as such.

[Dipre]

You have to keep in mind we're a lot older now so that changes the perspective hugely.

 

Corey Seager is an awesome player and should be recognized as such.

 

You see the list he's putting out, while we currently have in-prime Mookie Betts (ouch), Bryce Harper, the marvel that is Shohei Ohtani as a two-way player, and guys like Ronald Acuña Jr and Juan Soto literally rewriting the record books. On the pitching side, generational talents like Scherzer, Verlander and Kershaw are wining down, and pitchers will never be as durable as they once were, but the sport is not lacking for stars, the sport is lacking for a competent Commish.

[Bellhorn04]

You see the list he's putting out, while we currently have in-prime Mookie Betts (ouch), Bryce Harper, the marvel that is Shohei Ohtani as a two-way player, and guys like Ronald Acuña Jr and Juan Soto literally rewriting the record books. On the pitching side, generational talents like Scherzer, Verlander and Kershaw are wining down, and pitchers will never be as durable as they once were, but the sport is not lacking for stars, the sport is lacking for a competent Commish.

 

Agree 100%.

[Old Red]

You have to keep in mind we're a lot older now so that changes the perspective hugely.

 

Corey Seager is an awesome player and should be recognized as such.

 

I understand we’re older, and things have changed, but that doesn’t change that names recognition is still nowhere near the same. All of the players of today are on TV all the time where stars of yesteryear were only on the game of the week, or mostly weekends like the Red Sox were yet Maury Wills was a lot more well known then than Cory Seager is now.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

As long as people are betting like lunatics on the games, it's all good!

 

I automatically mute all betting features in pregames. Nothing against the hosts all dressed up in expensive clothes hoping you'll give them more money; this is the life they've chosen...

 

... but the old-timers in the booth pretending gambling is good are all sell-outs. It reeks of kick-backs from other companies that value profits over the well-being of the populace.