Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[mvp 78]

Oh my God ... Tommy Pham????

 

You get a 1 year deal. And you get a 1 year deal. And you get a 1 year deal.

[mvp 78]

Aside from the assault in the outfield, the mediocre skill-set, his poor record when he was here before, you mean? Somehow, he doesn't strike me as "our" Ohtani, but maybe paired with (what's the dude's name? Hymen?), we now have a core to build around.

 

He had a 103 tOPS+ at Fenway when he played for the Sox in '22.

 

That's all I got.

[mvp 78]

Another LF'er, but this one can't hit or defend. Other than that, he's okay.

 

He's a platoon in LF for Duran? His glove is as good if not better? IDK. Trying to look on the bright side of this FA they also won't sign.

[Dipre]

Human phsyiology is a fairly exact science. There's a distinct difference between an acute injury, and a chronic one.

 

you do not develop a chronic injury in the course of a day or two, you develop it over time E.G. the wear and tear of pitching over the course of years.

 

Acute injuries stop you in your tracks, chronic develop slow over time.

If he had elbow surgery that offseason the argument would be stronger, but even then, I would still say that THAT would be a "the straw that broke the camels back" incident. But he didn't, he had it years later. You can't pinpoint one week in an 11 year career and say "this....this is what caused this chronic problem"

 

If I develop lung cancer tomorrow, I'm not going back to a new years eve party 3 years ago where I smoked a f***-ton of pot. And let me tell you....it was a lot.

 

It is exact when dealing with typical physiological behavior. Throwing a baseball it is not. And let me say my last on the subject in a few key words: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

[moonslav59]

I thought we were showing signes of improving our outfield.

 

4.7 fWAR in '21 (23rd)

0.7 fWAR in '22 (27th)

8.4 fWAR in '23 (12th)

 

.724 in '21

.676 in '22

.783 in '23

 

Outs Above Average

-1 in '21 (14th)

-14th in '22 (24th)

-12 in '23 (26th)

 

Our 2023 OF PAs/OPS as OF'er only:

 

598 Dugo .743 (+1 OAA)

368 Yoshida .832 (-8 OAA)

345 Duran .823 (0 OAA)

331 Duvall .855 (-3 OAA)

206 Refsnyder .697 (-3 OAA)

[moonslav59]

He's a platoon in LF for Duran? His glove is as good if not better? IDK. Trying to look on the bright side of this FA they also won't sign.

 

I though Refsnyder fit that role, or we could play Yoshida in LF vs LHPs. Or, we could play Abreu, more often.

 

Maybe the plan is Duran in CF FT.

 

It also forces O'Neill to play RF, more often.

[mvp 78]

I though Refsnyder fit that role, or we could play Yoshida in LF vs LHPs. Or, we could play Abreu, more often.

 

Maybe the plan is Duran in CF FT.

 

It also forces O'Neill to play RF, more often.

 

I'm not saying I support signing Pham!

[moonslav59]

I'm not saying I support signing Pham!

 

I knew. I know.

[jad]

Maybe they're just putting his name out there so that whatever stumble-bum journeyman they end up signing for the veteran's minimum looks no worse than meh by comparison.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Pham: clean-up batter for team that lost the World Series.

[mvp 78]

Maybe they're just putting his name out there so that whatever stumble-bum journeyman they end up signing for the veteran's minimum looks no worse than meh by comparison.

 

Teoscar > Soler > Duvall > Cooper > Pham > PUIG

[notin]

Teoscar > Soler > Duvall > Cooper > Pham > PUIG

 

So you're saying no Kike Hernandez?

[dgalehouse]

Tommy Pham's productivity last year was very similar to Yoshida. For a lot less money.

[moonslav59]

Pham had an OPS+ of 95 from 2020-2022, then shot up to 111 in 2023 at age 35.

 

Expecting anything like 2023, is a bigger stretch than hopes for just about all the other Sox players on the 26.

[mvp 78]

So you're saying no Kike Hernandez?

 

Hmmmmm......

[jad]

OMG Puig! Given where we are, signing him would be AWESOME!!!

[mvp 78]

Junis to the Brewers for 1/7.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Junis to the Brewers for 1/7.

 

Nobody to the Red Sox. Truck full of stuff to Florida.

[moonslav59]

Nobody to the Red Sox. Truck full of stuff to Florida.

 

I keep seeing ex-Sox player signing with teams, mostly on minor league deals. We've had a lot of turnover!

[Bellhorn04]

I keep seeing ex-Sox player signing with teams, mostly on minor league deals. We've had a lot of turnover!

 

Bloom was a turnover machine.

[moonslav59]

Bloom was a turnover machine.

 

I can understand the 2020 roster overhaul, but all those one year deals, trades and DFAs added up to major turnover and turmoil.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I can understand the 2020 roster overhaul, but all those one year deals, trades and DFAs added up to major turnover and turmoil.

 

Reiterations of redundant rehabbing regurgitating redos = repulsive Re-dsox.

[moonslav59]

Reiterations of redundant rehabbing regurgitating redos = repulsive Re-dsox.

 

Re-treads redux.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Re-treads redux.

 

Typo, second word: omitted "s"

[moonslav59]

Typo, second word: omitted "s"

 

lmao.

[moonslav59]

As expected, Kershaw to sign with LAD. Terms unknown. (He will likely be on the IL for months, to start the season.)

[Bellhorn04]

The Dodgers are having themselves a party.

[Old Red]

Altuve, and Astros agree on 5 yrs/$125M.

[moonslav59]

Astros give soon-to-be 34 year old Altuve a 5 year deal at $125M, much of it front-loaded. $15M signing bonus, the $30, $30, $30, $10, $10M.

 

If they get tight with their money, and keep letting stars go, maybe this means Bregman, Framber or Tucker will not be extended- maybe 2 of them.

[notin]

Astros give soon-to-be 34 year old Altuve a 5 year deal at $125M, much of it front-loaded. $15M signing bonus, the $30, $30, $30, $10, $10M.

 

If they get tight with their money, and keep letting stars go, maybe this means Bregman, Framber or Tucker will not be extended- maybe 2 of them.

 

Of those 3, I let Bregman walk.

 

Of course, my decision is based more on him being a whiny little sack of #$@# than a baseball player...