4/23 vs Brewers: Bello vs Burnes

[vegasbob]

Baseball needs to change the rules and give the official score discretion as to who to give the win to. There is no way Ort should get a victory out of this. He pitched like crap.

 

Good point , and the reason why W-L's for pitchers is not a meaningful stat. It's really a correlation of run scoring and effective 5-7 innings by the starter .

[notin]

Baseball needs to change the rules and give the official score discretion as to who to give the win to. There is no way Ort should get a victory out of this. He pitched like crap.

 

That rule already exists. The official scorer can award elsewhere if the relief pitcher of record was ineffective in a brief outing. But I can promise you he won’t in this case…

[vegasbob]

Facing the 14-7 orioles after this series. Yes you heard right the birds are 14-7 lol.

 

AL East combined are 70-30. Compete in that group at your own expense

[notin]

That rule already exists. The official scorer can award elsewhere if the relief pitcher of record was ineffective in a brief outing. But I can promise you he won’t in this case…

 

It’s Rule 9.17©. No need for a change. Just need scorers who know how to use it…

[vegasbob]

For a team sporting statistically high end pitching, looks like the Red Sox have shown them their shortcomings this weekend

[notin]

Facing the 14-7 orioles after this series. Yes you heard right the birds are 14-7 lol.

 

13-5 since the first series…

[vegasbob]

It’s Rule 9.17©. No need for a change. Just need scorers who know how to use it…

 

One problem is that ORT's awful inning was not brief, considering 3 walks. Appreciate the rules update in any case. Thanks

[vegasbob]

Somebody offer an over/under on Brasier's pitch count to get 3 outs.

 

I'm at 20

[vegasbob]

What a difference when you throw effective strikes . Way to go, Bra-man. 13 pitches , 3 outs

[moonslav59]

How much did Yoshida’s OPS go up in just one inning?

[Larry Cook]

How do we score so many runs with so many sub .200 batting averages!!!

[Hugh2]

How do we score so many runs with so many sub .200 batting averages!!!

 

I’d say all our sub .200 guys are better than sub .200 guys. They were bound to start hitting at some point.

 

Which is what they need to do if they’re going to stay in it because other guys are going to come down to earth at some point. It’s a long season.

[notin]

How do we score so many runs with so many sub .200 batting averages!!!

 

Because no stat tells you less about offense than batting average…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Because no stat tells you less about offense than batting average…

 

I know, imagine assessing a batter by dividing the number of safe hits made from swinging the bat and making contact with the ball by the number of at bats (how dare they not count walks, hit by pitches, sacrifices and barreling the catcher's mitt).

[Hugh2]

The problem with batting average is it doens't measure walks, and it also doesn't differentiate between a single, a double, a triple, and a HR. Any stat in baseball on it's on doesn't tell a whole story.

 

And.....it's all a SSS at this point. This time of year you can have a good series and raise your stats a lot still.

[Hugh2]

Lets Say Yoshida is hot and goes 4 for 4 today. His average would be up to .270

 

I think a lot less people would be complaining about him if it was a steady 270 all year. But that's literally taking away 4 hits today and sprinkling them out over the last 25 days. Maybe we'd still be concerned by his lack of power, but lately, he's showing a little.

[Bellhorn04]

As goofy a stat as OPS can be, at least it's on the right track, because OBP and SLG are both of more importance than BA.

[Bellhorn04]

Lets Say Yoshida is hot and goes 4 for 4 today. His average would be up to .270

 

I think a lot less people would be complaining about him if it was a steady 270 all year. But that's literally taking away 4 hits today and sprinkling them out over the last 25 days. Maybe we'd still be concerned by his lack of power, but lately, he's showing a little.

 

He showed plenty yesterday. And as much as he was struggling before that, he wasn't striking out much, so that was a good sign.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

As goofy a stat as OPS can be, at least it's on the right track, because OBP and SLG are both of more importance than BA.

 

I'd still prefer singles instead of walks by Casas, because even a one-base hit for the big guy can move traffic in front of him first-to-third or second-to-home.

 

A walk isn't as good as a hit.

[Bellhorn04]

I'd still prefer singles instead of walks by Casas, because even a one-base hit for the big guy can move traffic in front of him first-to-third or second-to-home.

 

A walk isn't as good as a hit.

 

No, a walk isn't as good as a hit, but it beats the crap out of making an out.

[Hugh2]

He showed plenty yesterday. And as much as he was struggling before that, he wasn't striking out much, so that was a good sign.

 

That's why I've been hopeful on him. That and because he was walking a ton.

 

Weird thing is in the past 7 days he's been slugging .500 but with only one walk. It's got to be tough, he's new to the MLB, he's never faced any of these pitchers before so they are all new to him, and he's been getting a lot of LHP to start that journey. With more RHP coming up he could be poised for a breakout.

 

I also want to see how he looks when he starts seeing guys again.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

No, a walk isn't as good as a hit, but it beats the crap out of making an out.

 

Most of the time. I'm still scarred from all those man-on-third, less than two outs situations where all a Sox batter had to do was touch the ball!

[notin]

I know, imagine assessing a batter by dividing the number of safe hits made from swinging the bat and making contact with the ball by the number of at bats (how dare they not count walks, hit by pitches, sacrifices and barreling the catcher's mitt).

 

And sac flies, which is the dumbest omission and also creates a weird scenario where the speed of the hitters in front of you can make you look like a better hitter…

[jad]

Because no stat tells you less about offense than batting average…

 

Average attendance?

dWAR?

Yards After Catch?

Save percentage?

3-pt. percentage?

Wunderlich test?

[notin]

Average attendance?

dWAR?

Yards After Catch?

Save percentage?

3-pt. percentage?

Wunderlich test?

 

Do not knock Yards After Wunderlich!!!

[notin]

I'd still prefer singles instead of walks by Casas, because even a one-base hit for the big guy can move traffic in front of him first-to-third or second-to-home.

 

A walk isn't as good as a hit.

 

 

A walk isn’t as good as a hit, but a single isn’t as good as a home run, either…

[notin]

Most of the time. I'm still scarred from all those man-on-third, less than two outs situations where all a Sox batter had to do was touch the ball!

 

And you think walking hurts them there?

[mvp 78]

Yoshida's swing will now be messed up for the next 10 games, but win the game you are playing now, and that is what he cemented.

 

IDK. If the pitch is inside, pull the ball. If the pitch is outside, hit the ball to LF. The issue before was he was rolling over the outside pitches towards 2B over and over.

[mvp 78]

Because no stat tells you less about offense than batting average…

 

Every stat is sacred. Every stat is great.

[mvp 78]

He showed plenty yesterday. And as much as he was struggling before that, he wasn't striking out much, so that was a good sign.

 

He doesn't look overwhelmed. He just needed a different approach. That's on the coaching staff to work with him and show him what will work in MLB.