Devers signs 11 year $331 million extension

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

That is a pipe dream

 

Maybe... but what's in those pipes that causes such dreams is legal in a lot of states now.

[moonslav59]

When Soto is a FA, only Sale, Story, Yoshida and Devers will be on the books. I guess they could clear out room and go crazy? Soto's contract will be bonkers though. 15/500?

 

Very acceptable $33.3 AAV.

[Bobe2]

When Soto is a FA, only Sale, Story, Yoshida and Devers will be on the books. I guess they could clear out room and go crazy? Soto's contract will be bonkers though. 15/500?

 

I’d rather have Ohtani he will be a free agent next fall

[jad]

And of course BLoom gets to repeat his often used apology about regretting the way he handled things.

Perhaps he should consider handling things correctly. Then he wouldn't have to apologize all the time.

[Bellhorn04]

Very acceptable $33.3 AAV.

 

You're talking about a half billion dollar contract as if it's reasonable.

 

We probably are headed there, though. What's the limit? Has there ever been a growth industry like pro sports?

[Old Red]

You're talking about a half billion dollar contract as if it's reasonable.

 

We probably are headed there, though. What's the limit? Has there ever been a growth industry like pro sports?

 

$500M is not acceptable no matter what the AAV is.

[notin]

$500M is not acceptable no matter what the AAV is.

 

What if its over 50,000 years?

[Jasonbay44]

Baseball contracts are pretty cheap compared to NBA/Soccer deals. All the highest paid athletes are pretty much soccer, NBA, or even golf and tennis

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

You're talking about a half billion dollar contract as if it's reasonable.

 

We probably are headed there, though. What's the limit? Has there ever been a growth industry like pro sports?

 

Pipe dreams.

[moonslav59]

You're talking about a half billion dollar contract as if it's reasonable.

 

We probably are headed there, though. What's the limit? Has there ever been a growth industry like pro sports?

 

He's 2 years younger than Devers.

 

He's better than Devers.

 

If Devers is worth $30M x 11, Soto is worth $33M x 15, now.

 

If he was a "homegrown" player, would the narrative be different?

 

I'm not saying I'd pay it or want so much of the budget tied up in just 2 players, but "worth" is a hard thing to figure, these days.

[Jasonbay44]

He's 2 years younger than Devers.

 

He's better than Devers.

 

If Devers is worth $30M x 11, Soto is worth $33M x 15, now.

 

If he was a "homegrown" player, would the narrative be different?

 

I'm not saying I'd pay it or want so much of the budget tied up in just 2 players, but "worth" is a hard thing to figure, these days.

 

Someone is going to pay Soto an absurd amount of money, will it be Boston? I doubt it, but someone will. He’s accomplished an absurd amount at such a young age.

[Old Red]

He's 2 years younger than Devers.

 

He's better than Devers.

 

If Devers is worth $30M x 11, Soto is worth $33M x 15, now.

 

If he was a "homegrown" player, would the narrative be different?

 

I'm not saying I'd pay it or want so much of the budget tied up in just 2 players, but "worth" is a hard thing to figure, these days.

 

Do you really think players get paid what they are worth? I don’t care if a homegrown player, or not the narrative wouldn’t be different not for that much money. Rich owners, and play money to some make prices go up. Is Bogey worth what he got?

Edited January 6, 2023 by Old Red

[moonslav59]

Do you really think players get paid what they are worth? I don’t care if a homegrown player, or not the narrative wouldn’t be different not for that much money. Rich owners, and play money to some make prices go up. Is Bogey worth what he got?

 

Who knows?

 

I'm just saying, if Devers gets $30M x 11, I see Soto getting $33m x 15 as being about in line with value vs pay on the open market.

[moonslav59]

Someone is going to pay Soto an absurd amount of money, will it be Boston? I doubt it, but someone will. He’s accomplished an absurd amount at such a young age.

 

Yes, he's going to break the pay record by a lot.

 

I doubt I'll ever think it's a good idea to use so much of the budget for one guy on the Sox, but if JH is willing...

[Jasonbay44]

Yes, he's going to break the pay record by a lot.

 

I doubt I'll ever think it's a good idea to use so much of the budget for one guy on the Sox, but if JH is willing...

He's one of the only guys I'd ever even consider paying that much money. He just turned 24 and already has multiple all star appearances, a batting title, world series ring and before turning 24, racked up 125 homers and has been on base over 1100 times.

 

He had a "down year" last year and had a WAR over 5 and OBP over .400. Plus, I imagine the banning of the shift and the potential for automatic strike zone will help a guy who has one of the best eyes the league has ever seen.

[notin]

Do you really think players get paid what they are worth? I don’t care if a homegrown player, or not the narrative wouldn’t be different not for that much money. Rich owners, and play money to some make prices go up. Is Bogey worth what he got?

 

If paying Bogaerts $27mill earns an extra $30mill for the Padres’ ownership, than yes…

[notin]

He's one of the only guys I'd ever even consider paying that much money. He just turned 24 and already has multiple all star appearances, a batting title, world series ring and before turning 24, racked up 125 homers and has been on base over 1100 times.

 

He had a "down year" last year and had a WAR over 5 and OBP over .400. Plus, I imagine the banning of the shift and the potential for automatic strike zone will help a guy who has one of the best eyes the league has ever seen.

 

Absolutely.

 

Soto would make many forget about Betts. But San Diego really has to try to lock him up, and they have two years to do it. Machado will opt out and free up $30mill AAV towards the cause…

[Jasonbay44]

Absolutely.

 

Soto would make many forget about Betts. But San Diego really has to try to lock him up, and they have two years to do it. Machado will opt out and free up $30mill AAV towards the cause…

 

It would be pretty shocking if Padres gave Xander the money they did, but then decided to not pay the younger and better player in Soto.

[moonslav59]

It would be pretty shocking if Padres gave Xander the money they did, but then decided to not pay the younger and better player in Soto.

 

No doubt.

[redsoxrules]

Meh, not a fan of this contract simply for the fact that they did this to avoid another cluster f*** with what happened to Mookie and Bogey. They gave it to the wrong person. Doing this deal doesn't make up for the fact they screwed the pooch on Betts and Bogey. In fact it makes it worse. Devers is half the player Betts is and will be making about the same money. Great work Henry and Company to sign a player to a massive deal who's not MVP caliber unlike Betts. And in a few years will look even worse when he's a DH . But I get it, they needed to get this done as they couldn't afford to lose another home grown talent.

[Deja Doh]

Way too little money and way to few years for a 26 year old with a .512 SLG.

 

I look at OBP (as this is a team game, not fantasy). Devers is a good player. He's not a great player. He doesn't walk enough, strikes out too much. Judge's slugging was 0.583. Why didn't we go after him? I didn't hear you bang on that drum. If you look at Soto, his career OBP is 0.424. That's first ballot HOF stuff.

[mvp 78]

I look at OBP (as this is a team game, not fantasy). Devers is a good player. He's not a great player. He doesn't walk enough, strikes out too much. Judge's slugging was 0.583. Why didn't we go after him? I didn't hear you bang on that drum. If you look at Soto, his career OBP is 0.424. That's first ballot HOF stuff.

 

So are Raffy's numbers if he continues his trajectory at 3B.

[mvp 78]

Meh, not a fan of this contract simply for the fact that they did this to avoid another cluster f*** with what happened to Mookie and Bogey. They gave it to the wrong person. Doing this deal doesn't make up for the fact they screwed the pooch on Betts and Bogey. In fact it makes it worse. Devers is half the player Betts is and will be making about the same money. Great work Henry and Company to sign a player to a massive deal who's not MVP caliber unlike Betts. And in a few years will look even worse when he's a DH . But I get it, they needed to get this done as they couldn't afford to lose another home grown talent.

 

Stop it. Devers is better and younger than Xander.

[mvp 78]

$500M is not acceptable no matter what the AAV is.

 

Wrong.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Wrong.

 

"NOBODY is worth fill-in-the-blank to play a game of baseball!"

 

(preceding quote passed on from the Garden of Eden or translated from recovered ancient alien artifacts, depending on one's beliefs)

[mvp 78]

"NOBODY is worth fill-in-the-blank to play a game of baseball!"

 

(preceding quote passed on from the Garden of Eden or translated from recovered ancient alien artifacts, depending on one's beliefs)

 

WINTER HAVEN, Fla., Feb. 17 (AP) — Carl Yastrzemski of the Boston Red Sox signed a three‐year contract today that may make him the highest paid player in professional baseball history.

 

No figures were announced, but Dick O'Connell, vice presi dent and general manager of the Red Sox, said the contract made Yastrzemski “the highest paid player in the American League.”

 

He just turned 30! We know he's on the decline! What a waste of money! He's just playing a kid's game!

[moonslav59]

I look at OBP (as this is a team game, not fantasy). Devers is a good player. He's not a great player. He doesn't walk enough, strikes out too much. Judge's slugging was 0.583. Why didn't we go after him? I didn't hear you bang on that drum. If you look at Soto, his career OBP is 0.424. That's first ballot HOF stuff.

 

Devers was worth every penny of this deal, on paper.

[Bellhorn04]

I look at OBP (as this is a team game, not fantasy). Devers is a good player. He's not a great player. He doesn't walk enough, strikes out too much. Judge's slugging was 0.583. Why didn't we go after him? I didn't hear you bang on that drum.

 

a) Judge turns 31 in April.

You really wanted to go higher than $360 million for him?

[moonslav59]

a) Judge turns 31 in April.

You really wanted to go higher than $360 million for him?

 

I'm a huge OBP guy, but age, SLG and defense are big factors, too.

 

BTW, Devers has had an OBP over .352 in 3 of his last 3 full seasons.

 

His OBP since 2019 is .352. That is way better than good.

Edited January 6, 2023 by moonslav59

[Old Red]

Wrong.

 

It’s just an opinion, which I have spouted on here for over a year now that I don’t like any 10yr $300M+ contracts. Now I do understand you have to pay em to get ‘em, but I still don’t like ‘em.