Fire Bloom .

[moonslav59]

Well, my speculation is that Bloom is the guy who blueprints all the team construction stuff, and everyone else is working within those blueprints, so the input Bloom gets is going to be about the kind of moves that fit into his philosophy. So it's not just the final say that's his, it's the underlying plans.

 

That's hard to know, but I do think he has more to say in the matter than MVP is hinting at.

[Randy Red Sox]

if we weren't going to get a Snell, Verlander, or Scherzer it was simply best to pass.

Lorenzen really has been a reliever for most of his career. I didn't want to send much for that guy. Civale's xFIP is 2 runs higher than his ERA. Flaherty really took a step back this year. Those guys could help you down the stretch, but they aren't going to carry your staff or win you a playoff series. Very 2013 Jake Peavyish, if you're projecting what they could bring to your rotation.

[moonslav59]

if we weren't going to get a Snell, Verlander, or Scherzer it was simply best to pass.

 

I think Civale was another option, due to multiple years of control.

[Bellhorn04]

That's hard to know, but I do think he has more to say in the matter than MVP is hinting at.

 

I'm not sure what mvp's theory is for who makes the baseball decisions. Somebody has to make 'em, we know that much.

[Bellhorn04]

I think Civale was another option, due to multiple years of control.

 

Yeah, that's the kind of guy it seems they should have been looking at, not just a rental.

 

But they decided instead to go with Mr. Nonexistent.

[Old Red]

I'm not sure what mvp's theory is for who makes the baseball decisions. Somebody has to make 'em, we know that much.

 

Next it will be Cora doesn’t make out the lineup, or the pitching changes it’s the coaches.

[notin]

Next it will be Cora doesn’t make out the lineup, or the pitching changes it’s the coaches.

 

Oh the “Bloom makes the lineup” theory was floated out here last year…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

If the Red Sox finish last again, maybe after the season Bloom will make a few changes in the front office of the guys actually in charge of assembling his big league roster.

 

Or at least make them recite the alphabet backwards, touch their middle fingers to their noses and walk a straight line... As chief officer, it's his call.

[Bellhorn04]

Bloom didn't do enough to upgrade the starting pitching in the offseason, and he didn't do anything about it at the trade deadline.

 

We've been able to survive with openers and bullpen games, but I don't think that strategy can hold up for long.

 

And who knows if Sale, Whitlock or Houck will contribute at all the rest of the way?

 

I don't have a good feeling about how this is going to play out.

[Old Red]

Oh the “Bloom makes the lineup” theory was floated out here last year…

 

Do you think he finally told Cora to take Kike off SS.

[notin]

Do you think he finally told Cora to take Kike off SS.

 

Bloom gave him other options, like Reyes and Chang and (eventually) Hamilton. But I think Cora makes the lineup. I certainly hold him responsible for it…

[notin]

Bloom didn't do enough to upgrade the starting pitching in the offseason, and he didn't do anything about it at the trade deadline.

 

We've been able to survive with openers and bullpen games, but I don't think that strategy can hold up for long.

 

And who knows if Sale, Whitlock or Houck will contribute at all the rest of the way?

 

I don't have a good feeling about how this is going to play out.

 

This is good news. Your negativity often leads to hot streaks…

[moonslav59]

Bloom didn't do enough to upgrade the starting pitching in the offseason, and he didn't do anything about it at the trade deadline.

 

We've been able to survive with openers and bullpen games, but I don't think that strategy can hold up for long.

 

And who knows if Sale, Whitlock or Houck will contribute at all the rest of the way?

 

I don't have a good feeling about how this is going to play out.

 

I'm confident one of those 3 will help, and think the odds are 2 will, but we needed help NOW (actually weeks ago.)

[Dipre]

This is good news. Your negativity often leads to hot streaks…

 

This team should have like 70 wins then.

[Bellhorn04]

This team should have like 70 wins then.

 

Didn't you say this team should just be blown up? That's not negative?

[Bellhorn04]

I guess I'm a big Negative Nelly for thinking it would have been nice to bolster the pitching. Oh well.

[Dipre]

Didn't you say this team should just be blown up? That's not negative?

 

I also said after the TDL that I'm fine with them not standing pat. This was a weird TDL and market. Their best trade chips were Duvall and Paxton, who I now think would not have brought enough to justify trading. They probably hold more value to this team than others, because other teams are not stupid, and they know Paxton is an injury waiting to happen and Duvall hasn't been the same since the injury (but he's been better of late).

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I also said after the TDL that I'm fine with them not standing pat. This was a weird TDL and market. Their best trade chips were Duvall and Paxton, who I now think would not have brought enough to justify trading. They probably hold more value to this team than others, because other teams are not stupid, and they know Paxton is an injury waiting to happen and Duvall hasn't been the same since the injury (but he's been better of late).

 

IMHO, the injuries waiting to happen are Whitlock and Sale. I have more trust in Paxton staying healthy the rest of the way than those two.

[notin]

And hey…

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/dallas-keuchel-opts-out-of-twins-contract.html

[Dipre]

IMHO, the injuries waiting to happen are Whitlock and Sale. I have more trust in Paxton staying healthy the rest of the way than those two.

 

I very much disagree. Paxton had barely pitched in the last, what, 4 seasons? On a side note, I don't expect much from any of the 3 pitchers coming back, but by sheer probability, at least one of them should stay healthy and not suck.

[mvp 78]

It's my educated guess that Bloom makes most of the decisions on the big team's player acquisitions and dispositions, subject of course to the payroll budget imposed by Henry.

 

I'm sure Bloom receives a lot of information and opinions from others in the organization before making those decisions, but he has the final call.

 

You mentioned something you had read about Bloom being much more consultative than DD was, to the point that maybe Bloom considered the input of others too much. That aligns with the process I'm describing.

 

On MLB trades, they probably get run by him for sure. I'm sure every MLB transaction is run by him. The grunt work of the GM position is just done by BOH.

 

Organization philosophy/blueprint, that's all on Bloom.

[mvp 78]

I'm not sure what mvp's theory is for who makes the baseball decisions. Somebody has to make 'em, we know that much.

 

It's Wally OBV.

[mvp 78]

Oh the “Bloom makes the lineup” theory was floated out here last year…

 

Never. That's just silly. I'm sure Bloom talks to Cora frequently, but I doubt he's filling out the lineup cards ever.

[mvp 78]

Bloom gave him other options, like Reyes and Chang and (eventually) Hamilton. But I think Cora makes the lineup. I certainly hold him responsible for it…

 

The FO is at fault for Kiké being at SS considering the piss poor options Cora was given.

[notin]

The FO is at fault for Kiké being at SS considering the piss poor options Cora was given.

 

And to start the year, trying out Kike was ok. But after Reyes was acquired and with Chang on board, using Kike was just wrong….

[notin]

It's Wally OBV.

 

 

Give Wally a blindfold and cigarette and stand him up against the Green Monster…

[mvp 78]

Give Wally a blindfold and cigarette and stand him up against the Green Monster…

 

Animal abuse. Not in favor. He gets the needle.

[mvp 78]

And to start the year, trying out Kike was ok. But after Reyes was acquired and with Chang on board, using Kike was just wrong….

 

Kiké has a much higher upside than Chang or Reyes. Reyes is a career replacement player. Chang could be marginally better, but his bat is just awful. I understand why he kept trying Kiké there. Cora just never caught lightning in a bottle with him this year.

[notin]

Kiké has a much higher upside than Chang or Reyes. Reyes is a career replacement player. Chang could be marginally better, but his bat is just awful. I understand why he kept trying Kiké there. Cora just never caught lightning in a bottle with him this year.

 

Kike was below replacement level at shortstop. Replacement level was a clear upgrade…

[notin]

Animal abuse. Not in favor. He gets the needle.

 

No drama in that…