Fire Bloom .

[mvp 78]

It would not surprise me at all to see Bloom gone soon after the season ends. The deals he has been involved with have not all been failures but they don't match up very well with what a franchise like boston has been used to. We have many reasonably solid looking young minor leaguers some of whom are moving up quickly such as Teel. We have quite a few duplicates as well. I don't think that since he has been here, Bloom has shown that he can even if he was willing to try to make the deals that could push a team like the Sox back in to the big playoff picture. If Henry decides that bloom stays, I think that we better get used to seeing much more of what we have been seeing for the last few years.

 

It would be silly to change the GM AFTER the season. If they are going to make a switch, they need to do it now and not let it impact what they have to get done this offseason unless they are just going to hand the reigns to BOH.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Bradford today says Mayer's "slump" in AA was directly related to the same shoulder injury that just led to the Sox shutting him down for the season. He landed on it, trying for a triple, and it impacted his swing ever since.

 

Fans shouldn't stress so much about this. Bangs and bruises tend to heal just fine when you're a strong athlete at the ripe age of 20.

 

The difference between Mayer and us, besides the usual ( tall-dark-and-handsome, wealthy, already way better at something we've loved two-three-four times longer in our lives), is that his bosses are not only paying him not to work, but also providing room, board, and personal trainers to help with recovery.

[Dipre]

Lmao!

Another delusional post

 

The player is 20 years old 600 AB in A AA with 26 HR and limited strikeouts, your take those numbers to the bank and you further develop the Player

 

Get a clue !

 

Did.....did the dumbass just make sense in his own annoying way?

[mvp 78]

Did.....did the dumbass just make sense in his own annoying way?

 

He's wrong about the K rate though (it's about 25%).

[moonslav59]

Did.....did the dumbass just make sense in his own annoying way?

 

Blind squirrel running up and down a broken clock.

[oldtimer]

It would be silly to change the GM AFTER the season. If they are going to make a switch, they need to do it now and not let it impact what they have to get done this offseason unless they are just going to hand the reigns to BOH.

Silly or not there is a lot of smoke indicating an early November departure. If they part ways with Bloom, early November would allow for whoever the new guy was to have his own impact on the off season.

[Bellhorn04]

Silly or not there is a lot of smoke indicating an early November departure. If they part ways with Bloom, early November would allow for whoever the new guy was to have his own impact on the off season.

 

Is Henry going to do the 4 years and out again? That would make it 3 times in a row.

[moonslav59]

Silly or not there is a lot of smoke indicating an early November departure. If they part ways with Bloom, early November would allow for whoever the new guy was to have his own impact on the off season.

 

Define "smoke" and give some examples.

[Bellhorn04]

Define "smoke" and give some examples.

 

You saw mvp's posts about the Sox reported interest in Stearns. That's smoke.

[mvp 78]

Silly or not there is a lot of smoke indicating an early November departure. If they part ways with Bloom, early November would allow for whoever the new guy was to have his own impact on the off season.

 

Stearns is going to the Mets. They should find a new guy now and not wait until Nov.

[moonslav59]

You saw mvp's posts about the Sox reported interest in Stearns. That's smoke.

 

More like a mirage.

 

MVP is saying Stearns is going to the Mets.

[mvp 78]

More like a mirage.

 

MVP is saying Stearns is going to the Mets.

 

The smoke is that they even have reported interest in looking elsewhere.

[moonslav59]

The smoke is that they even have reported interest in looking elsewhere.

 

Okay. That's what I was asking.

 

I just now Googled it and found the SI article.

[MADSTORK]

Blind squirrel running up and down a broken clock.

 

Your passion on this board is second to none

I respect that

 

You boys need me on this wall !

 

Epstein on his way friends and Soto will be coming with him

Those are the facts and the facts are undisputed

[Hugh2]

Your passion on this board is second to none

I respect that

 

You boys need me on this wall !

 

Epstein on his way friends and Soto will be coming with him

Those are the facts and the facts are undisputed

 

And yet I dispute. Things that you predict that happen in the future and have not happened yet are not facts. That….is a fact.

[notin]

And yet I dispute. Things that you predict that happen in the future and have not happened yet are not facts. That….is a fact.

 

MADSTORK cannot even predict the past. He’s still clinging to Bloom’s mistake in not trading Duran for Berrios (which was a scenario I made up and never a possibility)…

[moonslav59]

MADSTORK cannot even predict the past. He’s still clinging to Bloom’s mistake in not trading Duran for Berrios (which was a scenario I made up and never a possibility)…

 

The worst part of that was not even being untrue, but Berrios did not do all that well, and Duran is looking okay, now.

 

(Remember, the Berrios 2022 extension is not part of the trade.)

 

[cp176]

It would be silly to change the GM AFTER the season. If they are going to make a switch, they need to do it now and not let it impact what they have to get done this offseason unless they are just going to hand the reigns to BOH.

 

I don't know what will happen, but I will still be surprised if bloom has his job in boston next season. We certainly have stock piled some pretty good looking prospects, but there won't be a place for them all in Boston for one thing. The other thing is are they as good as we think that they are? If Rafaela is a true player of the future, why is he not in the lineup daily? I think that there are obvious issues here and I don't think that it looks as though Bloom is the guy who can sort things out. Who stays and who goes.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't know what will happen, but I will still be surprised if bloom has his job in boston next season. We certainly have stock piled some pretty good looking prospects, but there won't be a place for them all in Boston for one thing. The other thing is are they as good as we think that they are? If Rafaela is a true player of the future, why is he not in the lineup daily?

 

The fact Rafaela hasn't been playing every game has something to do with the team still having a remote chance of making the playoffs. And thev're sort of eased him into things.

 

He and Abreu should be playing almost every game like now, though.

[mvp 78]

The fact Rafaela hasn't been playing every game has something to do with the team still having a remote chance of making the playoffs. And thev're sort of eased him into things.

 

He and Abreu should be playing almost every game like now, though.

 

I agree. Why isn’t he in CF for every pitch? Maybe they aren’t overexposing him and are thinking of trading him this offseason?

[cp176]

The fact Rafaela hasn't been playing every game has something to do with the team still having a remote chance of making the playoffs. And thev're sort of eased him into things.

 

He and Abreu should be playing almost every game like now, though.

 

If that is the case, does that mean that the consensus is that Rafaela isn't as good as the guys playing ahead of him? If that is the reason he isn't actually playing, maybe that means that he just in reality isn't as good as what we already have out there. Personally, I think the kid is very likely a better baseball player then the guys getting the playing time.

[cp176]

I agree. Why isn’t he in CF for every pitch? Maybe they aren’t overexposing him and are thinking of trading him this offseason?

 

I think he should be in centerfield every day. I really hope that they aren't considering trading him.

[Bellhorn04]

If that is the case, does that mean that the consensus is that Rafaela isn't as good as the guys playing ahead of him? If that is the reason he isn't actually playing, maybe that means that he just in reality isn't as good as what we already have out there. Personally, I think the kid is very likely a better baseball player then the guys getting the playing time.

 

It just means they're easing him into things. He should be the starting CF'er on opening day 2024.

[Maxbialystock]

I think he should be in centerfield every day. I really hope that they aren't considering trading him.

 

I think you can argue it either way. The Sox still have a shot, and Cora wants his best lineup in there. Rafaela definitely has potential, but the other guys have experience.

 

Or put it this way, Rafaela is a know quantity in terms of potential. I believe moonslav when he says Rafaela will start in CF next year. So right now it might make sense to see what Duvall, Dugo, Ref, etc can do in terms of keeping them or trading them.

[notin]

I think you can argue it either way. The Sox still have a shot, and Cora wants his best lineup in there. Rafaela definitely has potential, but the other guys have experience.

 

Or put it this way, Rafaela is a know quantity in terms of potential. I believe moonslav when he says Rafaela will start in CF next year. So right now it might make sense to see what Duvall, Dugo, Ref, etc can do in terms of keeping them or trading them.

 

With Duvall, it’s a matter of determining if he is back next year or they let him walk…

[moonslav59]

I don't know what will happen, but I will still be surprised if bloom has his job in boston next season. We certainly have stock piled some pretty good looking prospects, but there won't be a place for them all in Boston for one thing. The other thing is are they as good as we think that they are? If Rafaela is a true player of the future, why is he not in the lineup daily? I think that there are obvious issues here and I don't think that it looks as though Bloom is the guy who can sort things out. Who stays and who goes.

 

It's hard to know how he can or will handle trading prospects, since his track record is pretty much non existent, except for Aldo Ramirez for Schwarber.

 

His track record on big signings is not off to a good start.

 

If the prospects are not as good as we think, then trading as many as possible might work out well (kinda like DD trading away highly ranked prospects that mostly underperformed.)

 

If the prospects end up being good or very good, there will be plenty of "space to play them all," or we trade a couple here and there, once logjams are determined. Right now, we don't have any AAA prospects beating down the door at any position, let alone one already filled by a stud.

 

C: Teel can replace McGuire (trade RM)

1B: We have no top 1B prospect. Casas da man.

2B: We have room for the next MI prospect, here (or Story to 2B as Mayer plays SS)

SS: See Mayer to SS and Story to 2B.

3B: Devers forevers

OF: Plenty of room for Anthony & Bleis in a few years. Plenty of room for Rafaela and Abreu, now, and Dugo is gone after this year. Yoshida to DH opens an OF slot.

 

Pitching? We could use 8 and have about 2-3 promising pitchers who may be called up in 1-2 years.

 

There is room for one and all. (Only Yorke and Zanetello may end up being bottle-necked in the next 2-3 years, IMO.

[moonslav59]

I agree. Why isn’t he in CF for every pitch? Maybe they aren’t overexposing him and are thinking of trading him this offseason?

 

BTV really took an axe to Rafaela's value, recently. I'm not sure why.

 

Abreu sure looked good, yesterday, but his defense has seemed shaky, tq say the least. Is he also best suited for LF?

[cp176]

I just find many of Bloom's deals confusing. Good or bad - I don't know but confusing. We have a need at second base. How is old is Yorke? On the other hand, Wong appears to be a decent starting catcher moving forward but yet Teel has already moved to AA bypassing any catchers that we have up to that level. If Teel is this talented, wouldn't it kind of make sense that he really is on the fast track to Boston. In my mind that makes Wong a legitimate trade prospect who might attract some attention. We don't need another Fisk to backup another Fisk. A Montgomery will do. We have those guys already. The purpose of my post isn't to make any kind of trade proposal but just to say that I don't get much that I see happening. In my world, common sense says that Yorke should have been given a look by now. otherwise I think they should try package and move players like him who have talent but just don't fit the scheme whatever it might be moving forward. oh and yes I am surprised by Teel's rapid rise to that level.

[Dipre]

I just find many of Bloom's deals confusing. Good or bad - I don't know but confusing. We have a need at second base. How is old is Yorke? On the other hand, Wong appears to be a decent starting catcher moving forward but yet Teel has already moved to AA bypassing any catchers that we have up to that level. If Teel is this talented, wouldn't it kind of make sense that he really is on the fast track to Boston. In my mind that makes Wong a legitimate trade prospect who might attract some attention. We don't need another Fisk to backup another Fisk. A Montgomery will do. We have those guys already. The purpose of my post isn't to make any kind of trade proposal but just to say that I don't get much that I see happening. In my world, common sense says that Yorke should have been given a look by now. otherwise I think they should try package and move players like him who have talent but just don't fit the scheme whatever it might be moving forward. oh and yes I am surprised by Teel's rapid rise to that level.

 

What's your actual point?

 

Also, Bloom ain't going nowhere.

[mvp 78]

I just find many of Bloom's deals confusing. Good or bad - I don't know but confusing. We have a need at second base. How is old is Yorke? On the other hand, Wong appears to be a decent starting catcher moving forward but yet Teel has already moved to AA bypassing any catchers that we have up to that level. If Teel is this talented, wouldn't it kind of make sense that he really is on the fast track to Boston. In my mind that makes Wong a legitimate trade prospect who might attract some attention. We don't need another Fisk to backup another Fisk. A Montgomery will do. We have those guys already. The purpose of my post isn't to make any kind of trade proposal but just to say that I don't get much that I see happening. In my world, common sense says that Yorke should have been given a look by now. otherwise I think they should try package and move players like him who have talent but just don't fit the scheme whatever it might be moving forward. oh and yes I am surprised by Teel's rapid rise to that level.

 

Nick Yorke is 21. I don't know what the "common sense says that he should have been given a look by now" when he was battling injuries all last year, has never taken a swing in AAA and still only has a 806 OPS in AA. He's not exactly lighting it up down there the way Beni and Devers were. He'll be in AAA next season. Maybe he gets called up at some point at the end of the year. What's the rush?

 

Wong is fine, but I don't think he really has a ton of trade value. Per BTV, he's only marginally more valuable than Luis Urias.