Fire Bloom .

[Dipre]

They have also struggled to get pitchers to excel once they get to AAA.

 

They can't develop pitching. It's been an org thing for a while. But they've strengthened the overall system and have a lot of projectable talent.

[Old Red]

Sooooo should they not be given a chance then?

 

No one said that. They all should be given a chance or traded for someone who can help the big club. All I’m saying, and have been saying is that I’m not counting on any of them until they actually produce in a Red Sox uniform. Casas like I said is still a major suspect, and not a major league player who hasn’t so far lived up to his hype.

[Old Red]

We should have given up on "suspect" Pedroia after his poor start.

 

Bogey hit .662 over his first 650 PAs.

 

JBJ, don't even ask!

Not one person has said to give up on anyone. All I’m saying is pump the brakes on counting on all these suspects until they actually produce in the big leagues.

[Old Red]

They can't develop pitching. It's been an org thing for a while. But they've strengthened the overall system and have a lot of projectable talent.

 

Yes they may have strengthened the system, but that still doesn’t mean, or guarantee anymore success for the big league club.

[Dipre]

Yes they may have strengthened the system, but that still doesn’t mean, or guarantee anymore success for the big league club.

 

That's exactly what it does, if correctly translated into big league talent and trades to shore up weaknesses.

[Old Red]

That's exactly what it does, if correctly translated into big league talent and trades to shore up weaknesses.

 

The key word is IF translated into big league talent, which hasn’t happened yet with Casas.

[Dipre]

The key word is IF translated into big league talent, which hasn’t happened yet with Casas.

 

He's been up for two months.

[Old Red]

He's been up for two months.

 

That’s why I said yet. It’s bad though when he has had trouble with both the bat, and the glove. His footwork at 1B is terrible.

[Dipre]

That’s why I said yet. It’s bad though when he has had trouble with both the bat, and the glove. His footwork at 1B is terrible.

 

He should not have feet with which to have footwork with.

[Old Red]

He should not have feet with which to have footwork with.

 

A good picture of him the other night when Valdez bobbled the ball, and shuffled the ball to 1B, which went over Casas head. The picture showed Casas leaning forward all stretched . out as the ball went over his head. Why would you lean, and stretch forward if the ball is going over your head. Anticipating the throw before it happened. Bad technique all the way around.

[dgalehouse]

When the food is consistently bad , it might be time to replace the chef.

[Bellhorn04]

When the food is consistently bad , it might be time to replace the chef.

 

The chef says he's growing better stuff in the yard.

[vegasbob]

I read the Globe article with Bloom's apology for not checking Dermody's social media postings more closely before signing him . Bloom committed to a more robust background check on future signees.

 

Did it ever occur to Bloom and his team to check the health, injury history and actual baseball abilities a little more closely before signing the player ? In his haste to be inclusive and politically correct, Bloom et alia may be overlooking the more primary characteristics of MLB personnel. Before someone gets excited, this is not an endorsement nor excuse for Dermody . It's a comment on the Yalie in the FO and his ability to judge economically efficient talent.

[Old Red]

The chef says he's growing better stuff in the yard.

 

Barnyards?

[vegasbob]

There are 15 more games through June 30, at which point the Red Sox will be more than 50% through the season (83 games). They may be about the .500+- team that has bounced around the first half so far, directionless and sloppy.

 

It will be worth a hard look at the WC standings at that point and decide if this team can make a sustained run at a WC slot OR is time to consider the future of some of the 40 man roster, especially older guys like Turner, McGuire and Kike to see if another team will pay up for short term results. It will likely not be enough time (6/30) to reach conclusions on guys like Duran and Casas , but right now you would have to consider them available for an upgrade package deal.

 

Last season Bloom approached the trade deadline like he was walking on eggshells and missed a major opportunity to deal Eovaldi, JDM, Bogaerts. Just a suggestion, but I don't think the current group, now minus Sale, has a legit shot at the WC . So get some value, Bloom.

[Old Red]

Per Pete Abhram on Bloom’s Red Sox

 

227-225 last 4 years

 

111-119 last 2 years

 

4 home sellouts this season.

 

Last place all but 27 days since July 2022

 

Endless roster churn.

 

It’s not working!

[Hugh2]

I'm honestly not all bothered by the Dermody situation. What I would be more concerned about is if the guy currently still harbored those feelings and was outspoken on the issue, that guy I wouldn't want in my organization. I could really care less about what a young kid said, peoples hearts change.....and they certainly are less likely to change when you crucify them for the rest of their lives. I would be concerned if the Sox went and signed people that said something like that yesterday. That I would find much more bothersome.

[mvp 78]

The chef says he's growing better stuff in the yard.

 

Why is the chef doing the gardening?

[mvp 78]

I'm honestly not all bothered by the Dermody situation. What I would be more concerned about is if the guy currently still harbored those feelings and was outspoken on the issue, that guy I wouldn't want in my organization. I could really care less about what a young kid said, peoples hearts change.....and they certainly are less likely to change when you crucify them for the rest of their lives. I would be concerned if the Sox went and signed people that said something like that yesterday. That I would find much more bothersome.

 

The problem lies in the Sox terrible PR spin that we all see through. Just say "we needed the pitcher and the tweets weren't a big enough deal to us" rather than talking about understanding people's pain or whatever the f***.

[moonslav59]

That's exactly what it does, if correctly translated into big league talent and trades to shore up weaknesses.

 

And nobody is counting on any prospects. We just know the chances have improved.

[Old Red]

And nobody is counting on any prospects. We just know the chances have improved.

 

NObody is counting on Casas, and Mayer? I don’t buy that at all.

[notin]

I'm honestly not all bothered by the Dermody situation. What I would be more concerned about is if the guy currently still harbored those feelings and was outspoken on the issue, that guy I wouldn't want in my organization. I could really care less about what a young kid said, peoples hearts change.....and they certainly are less likely to change when you crucify them for the rest of their lives. I would be concerned if the Sox went and signed people that said something like that yesterday. That I would find much more bothersome.

 

He wasn’t a young kid; he was 30.

 

Josh Hader was a young kid when he did similar things. Dermody was an adult…

[notin]

NObody is counting on Casas, and Mayer? I don’t buy that at all.

 

The only thing they can be counted on is to make minimum wage for a few years, which keeps the overall payroll in check.

 

Hopefully they can do more, and we certainly want them to. But we can count on them to make league minimum, which isn’t a nothing attribute…

[Old Red]

The only thing they can be counted on is to make minimum wage for a few years, which keeps the overall payroll in check.

 

Hopefully they can do more, and we certainly want them to. But we can count on them to make league minimum, which isn’t a nothing attribute…

 

This may be true, but like I said at the very least some on here are counting on them for a lot more than that.

[Nick]

I'm honestly not all bothered by the Dermody situation. What I would be more concerned about is if the guy currently still harbored those feelings and was outspoken on the issue, that guy I wouldn't want in my organization. I could really care less about what a young kid said, peoples hearts change.....and they certainly are less likely to change when you crucify them for the rest of their lives. I would be concerned if the Sox went and signed people that said something like that yesterday. That I would find much more bothersome.

 

I don't quite understand the poster that said this guy was a racist........is there something out there that I'm not aware of?

[Nick]

This may be true, but like I said at the very least some on here are counting on them for a lot more than that.

 

I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of people that can follow John Henry's instructions. Just for THAT, Bloom gets no credit from me. Hell, I can probably do it.

[Hugh2]

He wasn’t a young kid; he was 30.

 

Josh Hader was a young kid when he did similar things. Dermody was an adult…

 

I didn't realize he was that old when he tweeted it. Still, I know 15-year-olds are more mature than 60-year-olds. His comments were rooted in his religious belief, I still don't blame him for being brainwashed when he was a child.

[Hugh2]

I don't quite understand the poster that said this guy was a racist........is there something out there that I'm not aware of?

 

Yeah, I don't get that either. I can understand the argument for saying they were homophobic but being gay isn't a race.

[notin]

I don't quite understand the poster that said this guy was a racist........is there something out there that I'm not aware of?

 

He’s a bigot. Racism and homophobia are just subsets of bigotry

[notin]

This may be true, but like I said at the very least some on here are counting on them for a lot more than that.

 

They’re excited about the potential. No harm in that…