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Posted (edited)

This article sums up the issues pretty well:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2018/10/alex_cora_makes_bold_bet_on_david_price_as_game_2_starter_against_astros

 

The pitcher with the worst record (0-9 as a starter) and the second-worst ERA (6.03 as a starter) in postseason history is going to face an Astros team that ranked No. 1 in OPS against left-handed pitchers this season.

 

All the numbers suggest this is a bad move. Cora seems to be playing a hunch.

 

Also, since 9/19, Price has a 7.50 ERA.

Edited by Fan_since_Boggs
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I think the OP is asking a legit question. The "Price Haters" have ever reason to be haters. If the link above is accurate the man holds the second worst post season ERA in history. Read that again. The second worse ERA in post season history.

 

Cora has to start him obviously but the reason for concern is very very real.

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Kind of like using or not using Kimbrel in the 9th for me. You coach a team over the course of a long long successful season and then you all of a sudden make a philosophical change in the 11th hour. I don't think so. It is a no brainer that Price starts and that he starts game number two. A short leash i guess but he starts.
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This article sums up the issues pretty well:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2018/10/alex_cora_makes_bold_bet_on_david_price_as_game_2_starter_against_astros

 

All the numbers suggest this is a bad move. Cora seems to be playing a hunch.

 

Also, since 9/19, Price has a 7.50 ERA.

 

Nope. It's 100% wrong to say that 'all the numbers' suggest this is a bad move.

 

Price has pitched very well against this Houston team.

 

Reg season

 

2018 2 starts 12.1 IP 3.65 ERA .81 WHIP

2017 7.2 IP 3.52 ERA

2016 6.2 IP 1.35 ERA

 

Postseason

 

2017 6.2 IP 0.00 ERA

 

The 2018 numbers include a start Sept 7 in Fenway where he went 6.2 giving up 2 runs, 2 hits, 2 walks, 10 K's.

 

Terrible reporting by this writer not to make any mention of his numbers against Houston.

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This is the right decision. Price will likely pitch very well.

 

Well, I agree with half of your post.

I'll let you guess which part.

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Say what you will about Price's lack of pitching in the postseason, but as someone else has mentioned, at least he owns it. He came back to the dugout and watched the rest of the game with his teammates. He made no excuses.

 

No, I was glad to see that he didn't jam his foot in his mouth, after the game.

Perhaps he's finally getting a clue as to how to handle this market.

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OK so David is pitching, hope he kicks ass. But, the thing we better do is hit Cole. If not, better be best pitched game of year for Price.
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OK so David is pitching, hope he kicks ass. But, the thing we better do is hit Cole. If not, better be best pitched game of year for Price.

 

Yup, it won't matter how well Sale and Price do, if they don't get some offensive support.

They need to string some hits together, like they did in the previous series.

Posted
Weird that both Verlander and Cole, both pitch better on the road then Home, this year. Whether this equates to Fenway, we will find out.
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OK...as the self described President of the Signing Price was the Stupidest Move Ever club....i'm gonna put this right here:

Price is going to pitch lights out for the rest of the postseason. starting with a 7 inning gem in game 2 of the ALCS.

book it.

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OK...as the self described President of the Signing Price was the Stupidest Move Ever club....i'm gonna put this right here:

Price is going to pitch lights out for the rest of the postseason. starting with a 7 inning gem in game 2 of the ALCS.

book it.

 

Can't argue with my Prez!

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Weird that both Verlander and Cole, both pitch better on the road then Home, this year. Whether this equates to Fenway, we will find out.

 

Pitching in ballpark with a left field wall as close as the monster but without all the the height might be a factor. Also they brought in the CF fence recently...

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Pitching in ballpark with a left field wall as close as the monster but without all the the height might be a factor. Also they brought in the CF fence recently...

 

The only place for pitchers to pitch to now in Houston is from LC field to RC field. Outside of that, just anything is likely to go out of that park as currently configured.

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This article sums up the issues pretty well:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2018/10/alex_cora_makes_bold_bet_on_david_price_as_game_2_starter_against_astros

 

 

 

All the numbers suggest this is a bad move. Cora seems to be playing a hunch.

 

Also, since 9/19, Price has a 7.50 ERA.

 

 

3 starts, 2 against the Yankees, 13 IP.

 

And two of those three were post-clinching games with nothing on the line...

Posted
This article sums up the issues pretty well:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2018/10/alex_cora_makes_bold_bet_on_david_price_as_game_2_starter_against_astros

 

 

 

All the numbers suggest this is a bad move. Cora seems to be playing a hunch.

 

Also, since 9/19, Price has a 7.50 ERA.

 

And in the 57 IP from July 20 to September 12, Price had an ERA of 1.56. And that stretch included a game against the Astros...

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And in the 57 IP from July 20 to September 12, Price had an ERA of 1.56. And that stretch included a game against the Astros...

 

When the article states that Eovaldi should be bumped to game 2, I don't think they looked at his start against HOU this year. Eovaldi is great against the Yanks, mediocre against everyone else. He's still a #4 to me.

Posted (edited)
I think Runs are going to be hard to come by in 1st two games, by the Sox. Whoever Pitches got to keep the Sox in the games. Kluber faced Houston 2 times this year, pitched 13.1 innings, 13 hits, 2 ER's, 17 K's. Then faced them in Play-offs. Price much better then Kluber. Edited by OH FOY!
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Price going in game 2 is the right move but he has to be on a very short leash. This series could come down to him in some ways. If he pitches well in two games we take this series.

 

I absolutely don't believe he will do that, but here's hoping.

Posted (edited)
I'm okay with Price for game 2. Eovaldi is much better with 2 or more extra days rest.

 

Also, wouldn't he be the Starter (Eovaldi) in Game 7? If there is one? The 2nd Start could be the biggie for David, if it goes that far.

Edited by OH FOY!
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Also, wouldn't he be the Starter (Eovaldi) in Game 7? If there is one? The 2nd Start could be the biggie for David, if it goes that far.

 

Yes, Eovaldi would go game 7 but not on long rest.

Posted (edited)
Also, wouldn't he be the Starter (Eovaldi) in Game 7? If there is one? The 2nd Start could be the biggie for David, if it goes that far.

 

More importantly, in a game 7, Price will be the only pitcher not available. (for more than a batter or two)

 

I mean for a Game 7, Eovaldi will probably be asked to get through the order once.

Edited by sk7326
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We might be dodging a bullet with the weather. Sales Saturday night looks like it will be miserable, temps in the mid-40's with moisture in the air, wind 8 mph out of the west. Sale will likely pitch through anything. Verlander will likely show up in shirt sleeves. Sunday looks like it will be a chilly night but other than that not remarkable. No wind, no moisture. If Price is going to go in game 2, at least he is getting decent Oct Boston weather for it.
Posted (edited)
We might be dodging a bullet with the weather. Sales Saturday night looks like it will be miserable, temps in the mid-40's with moisture in the air, wind 8 mph out of the west. Sale will likely pitch through anything. Verlander will likely show up in shirt sleeves. Sunday looks like it will be a chilly night but other than that not remarkable. No wind, no moisture. If Price is going to go in game 2, at least he is getting decent Oct Boston weather for it.

 

Of course, Verlander is a Detroit pitcher. Interesting... Sale out there with those bare thin arms on a cold night and most others with long dark sleeves. Why is the fall weather favorable to Price? Does he do better in the colder months?? (playoff record doesn't show it, for sure) Has anyone ever tracked his games according to weather conditions?

 

Oh no I just recalled his numb fingers... better start him in Houston

Edited by fxkatt
Community Moderator
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We might be dodging a bullet with the weather. Sales Saturday night looks like it will be miserable, temps in the mid-40's with moisture in the air, wind 8 mph out of the west. Sale will likely pitch through anything. Verlander will likely show up in shirt sleeves. Sunday looks like it will be a chilly night but other than that not remarkable. No wind, no moisture. If Price is going to go in game 2, at least he is getting decent Oct Boston weather for it.

 

Jibber jabber

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Jibber jabber

 

I want Price to have every possible edge he can have for his "multiple" concerns. Pitching him in game 2 means he gets starts in this series. I would love that to not be the case. But if I can't get that, I will at least take the Sunday weather for Price over having him face what he could get in Oct in Boston and what it appears Sale will get. I don't think it will effect either Sale or Verlander. Price does not instill confidence in me.

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Yes, Eovaldi would go game 7 but not on long rest.

 

So they’re not flipping Porcello and Eovaldi? I’d rather see Porcello out there if there is a game seven...

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