Sox hitting??

[mvp 78]

What is dead may never die.

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

 

In 33% of all Red Sox plate appearances they have taken a called strike in the zone on the first pitch. Next most is 29%. MLB average 27%.

 

Sounds about right to me.

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

 

In 20% of all plate appearances the team has taken middle-middle strikes on the first pitch, also the most in MLB.

 

Yup.

[Station 13]

They wouldn't know what to do with it.

[cp176]

What is dead may never die.

 

I think that you might be into parallel universes.

[Slasher9]

@redsoxstats

 

In 20% of all plate appearances the team has taken middle-middle strikes on the first pitch, also the most in MLB.

 

Yup.

 

this def drives me nuts. it is compounded when a player in the previous or next AB swings at a first pitch that is out of the zone (see: breaking pitch in the dirt). Eff Chili?

[mvp 78]

The approach on the first pitch should be to look for a certain pitch that you can drive. If you get it, let it rip.

[S5Dewey]

The approach on the first pitch should be to look for a certain pitch that you can drive. If you get it, let it rip.

 

This.

 

A hitter isn't going to get many pitches in an AB that he can handle. When he gets one he should hit it.

[Kimmi]

Tonight the Sox hitting showed the value of taking pitches and getting on base. They won without hitting a ball out of the infield, adrenaline be damned!

 

Brach's adrenaline did the Os in.

[Larry Cook]

any chance Nunez returns after the Cincy series?

[moonslav59]

any chance Nunez returns after the Cincy series?

 

I hope he gets at least 2-3 games in before the playoffs come.

[Station 13]

any chance Nunez returns after the Cincy series?

 

Right now we would have to find out where he plays once he does return.

[moonslav59]

Right now we would have to find out where he plays once he does return.

 

That's easy: everywhere!

[devildavid]

Brach's adrenaline did the Os in.

 

Good one!. Brach was too amped up and couldn't find the plate.

[devildavid]

The approach on the first pitch should be to look for a certain pitch that you can drive. If you get it, let it rip.

 

Here is an article related to this.

 

rantland.com/the-triangle/debunking-mlb-first-pitch-strike-myth/

[oldtimer]

Last night players not named Price and Devers went 3 for 23 against average pitching. That would be a .130 average. Many of the PAs were weak. Guys, what the heck are you doing? The Reds outhit us but our BP saved the day again.

[moonslav59]

Last night players not named Price and Devers went 3 for 23 against average pitching. That would be a .130 average. Many of the PAs were weak. Guys, what the heck are you doing? The Reds outhit us but our BP saved the day again.

 

"Nobody told me there'd be days like these."

Edited September 23, 2017 by moonslav59

[Kimmi]

The Sox have scored 744 runs to date, which puts them 10 in MLB. This puts them on pace to score 787.8 runs this season with 9 games remaining. This would have still ranked as the best offense in the league last year.

 

Moon, your point about the rest of the league's offense improving, making our drop off in run scoring seem much worse is a good point.

[Bellhorn04]

The Sox have scored 744 runs to date, which puts them 10 in MLB. This puts them on pace to score 787.8 runs this season with 9 games remaining. This would have still ranked as the best offense in the league last year.

 

Moon, your point about the rest of the league's offense improving, making our drop off in run scoring seem much worse is a good point.

 

That begs the question of how did so many other offenses improve while ours didn't. Mostly because of the home run ball, methinks.

[moonslav59]

That begs the question of how did so many other offenses improve while ours didn't. Mostly because of the home run ball, methinks.

 

The other key fact was that we led the league in runs by 100 last year. Scoring 100 less runs this year is significant, and saying we'd still have led the league is a bit misleading in some ways.

 

Yes, what made the rest of the league leap frog us?

 

Half the reason was us coring 100 less runs.

 

The other half is almost certainly tied to the massive power increase that somehow passed us by.

 

Losing big Papi had a role in both of these halves.

 

Significant downturns by 8 of our returning 9 top PA players from 2016 plays a huge role as well.

[Kimmi]

That begs the question of how did so many other offenses improve while ours didn't. Mostly because of the home run ball, methinks.

 

I think that is a valid point, to an extent. Our lack of home runs is certainly part of the reason why our offense is down, though I would disagree with the 'mostly'.

 

I really and sincerely think that much of it is unexplainable.

[Kimmi]

The other key fact was that we led the league in runs by 100 last year. Scoring 100 less runs this year is significant, and saying we'd still have led the league is a bit misleading in some ways.

 

Yes, what made the rest of the league leap frog us?

 

Half the reason was us coring 100 less runs.

 

The other half is almost certainly tied to the massive power increase that somehow passed us by.

 

Losing big Papi had a role in both of these halves.

 

Significant downturns by 8 of our returning 9 top PA players from 2016 plays a huge role as well.

 

I'm not trying to downplay the significance of a 100 run difference between last year and this year. However, the fact that we led the league by that much last year is a big reason why I felt out offense would still be a top 3 offense. My feeling was that we could score 100 fewer runs and still be better than the other teams.

[Bellhorn04]

I think that is a valid point, to an extent. Our lack of home runs is certainly part of the reason why our offense is down, though I would disagree with the 'mostly'.

 

I really and sincerely think that much of it is unexplainable.

 

When I say mostly I mean I think that's where most of the increase in other teams' numbers has come from.

[Larry Cook]

Our offense is power deficient and it is very difficult in the major leagues to get three hits an inning to score a run!

 

Add in a host of minor/semi major injuries to almost all our hitters and you have a recipe for less runs than last year.

 

Single biggest problem is lack of a veteran leader. Pedroia is not that kind of guy. Hanley is definitely not that guy. Neither betts or Bradley or bogey have stepped up. Benintendi and devers are rookies. Neither Vazquez nor Leon appear to have any varitek in them.

 

The ultimate locker room leader is votto,but he plays in the other dugout!

[FredLynn]

Our offense is power deficient and it is very difficult in the major leagues to get three hits an inning to score a run!

 

Add in a host of minor/semi major injuries to almost all our hitters and you have a recipe for less runs than last year.

 

Single biggest problem is lack of a veteran leader. Pedroia is not that kind of guy. Hanley is definitely not that guy. Neither betts or Bradley or bogey have stepped up. Benintendi and devers are rookies. Neither Vazquez nor Leon appear to have any varitek in them.

 

The ultimate locker room leader is votto,but he plays in the other dugout!

 

The single biggest problem is that we are dead last in the league in HRs. IMO.

[S5Dewey]

I'm not trying to downplay the significance of a 100 run difference between last year and this year. However, the fact that we led the league by that much last year is a big reason why I felt out offense would still be a top 3 offense. My feeling was that we could score 100 fewer runs and still be better than the other teams.

 

It's looking like we're going to score 100 fewer runs this year and still win the division on our pitching and defense, which was the plan all along..... wasn't it?

[SoxHop]

It's looking like we're going to score 100 fewer runs this year and still win the division on our pitching and defense, which was the plan all along..... wasn't it?

 

I think it was. What was supposed to be an incredible starting pitcher lineup, got decimated. Price out, E-Rod out for a while, Porcello not performing, The fill ins had their issues, but over all kicked ass.

 

Also the bullpen. Barnes and Hembree were really good the first half of the year, way better than expected.

 

This team was expected to win the ALE. But I think no one predicted how they ended up doing so. Heck, who would have thought Vasquez would do what he did this year.

[moonslav59]

I'm not trying to downplay the significance of a 100 run difference between last year and this year. However, the fact that we led the league by that much last year is a big reason why I felt out offense would still be a top 3 offense. My feeling was that we could score 100 fewer runs and still be better than the other teams.

 

Agreed. Had we scored 100 less runs and the rest of the league wasn't going bananas, we'd be ahead by 15 games right now.

[moonslav59]

The single biggest problem is that we are dead last in the league in HRs. IMO.

 

Nobody expected that, even with the loss of Papi.

[Bellhorn04]

Agreed. Had we scored 100 less runs and the rest of the league wasn't going bananas, we'd be ahead by 15 games right now.

 

You don't really deserve to be ahead by 15 games with a run differential of about 130.