Sox hitting??

[Maxbialystock]

Anytime you hit a dry period, you gotta ask. Right now opposing pitchers are finding it too easy to get our guys out, especially with RISP.

 

One number stands out--8 dingers. That isn't just the fewest for any MLB team, it's just a bit more than half--8 vs. 13--than the team in 29th place. Massive power outage.

 

The good news is that we probably have a pretty good lineup. I certainly thought so. And it's early--we're just past the 1/10th point into the season.

[Station 13]

Good average, but they hit into a lot of doubleplays. For a speedy team + contact, Farrell is waiting for the long ball that probably won't come. They're top 3 in terms of double plays hit into.

[Bellhorn04]

The numbers with RISP generally correct themselves. We're getting guys on base, that's not the problem. But the lack of power is.

[Kimmi]

I don't have the exact numbers, but up until the last 2 games, I believe the Sox were first in BA with RISP with a .335 or something like that. In the last 2 games we've gone 1-12 to drop that BA down to .303.

 

The offense will be fine.

[Bellhorn04]

I really really really hope I'm wrong, but I think the offense is going to be a problem.

[bosoxmal]

I really really really hope I'm wrong, but I think the offense is going to be a problem.

 

I hope you're wrong, too. But every AB seems to be a pop-up, or a DP ground ball. I m sure hat both Hanley and Mookie are upper-cutting. Hernandez, Vazquez and Bogaerts are the only ones simply trying to make contact. Hanley's going to hut hims one of these days.

[Spudboy]

I am a little concerned about Hanley and his sore shoulder.

 

But assuming it is no worse than last year I see no reason why he won't be able to step it up at the plate.

 

Also, I wonder how severe Bogey's thumb injury is. A chronic problem could really have a bad effect on his batting.

[jad]

I hope you're wrong, too. But every AB seems to be a pop-up, or a DP ground ball. I m sure hat both Hanley and Mookie are upper-cutting. Hernandez, Vazquez and Bogaerts are the only ones simply trying to make contact. Hanley's going to hut hims one of these days.

 

I don't know ... That pop-up Bradley hit yesterday had a bit of carry.

[Kimmi]

I really really really hope I'm wrong, but I think the offense is going to be a problem.

 

Jason Mastrodonato‏Verified account @JMastrodonato 52m52 minutes ago

 

Farrell still thinks Red Sox power issues aren't a concern. Said it's coincidental. Expected slight drop off without Ortiz but not like this.

 

 

"Coincidental" is code for 'randomness' for those old school managers.

[Spudboy]

Jason Mastrodonato‏Verified account @JMastrodonato 52m52 minutes ago

 

Farrell still thinks Red Sox power issues aren't a concern. Said it's coincidental. Expected slight drop off without Ortiz but not like this.

 

 

"Coincidental" is code for 'randomness' for those old school managers.

 

Lol. True. It is Manager Speak.

[Kimmi]

If we continue to be plagued by injuries and illness, the offense could be a problem.

 

What I'm reading now about Pedroia's knee is a little disconcerting.

 

But if the team stays relatively healthy, then the offense should be fine.

[SinceYaz]

Anytime you hit a dry period, you gotta ask. Right now opposing pitchers are finding it too easy to get our guys out, especially with RISP.

 

One number stands out--8 dingers. That isn't just the fewest for any MLB team, it's just a bit more than half--8 vs. 13--than the team in 29th place. Massive power outage.

 

The good news is that we probably have a pretty good lineup. I certainly thought so. And it's early--we're just past the 1/10th point into the season.

 

Max - the disquiet within me is about the RISP, if not the power outage. If the keys start clicking, things will be fine but I am wondering if the missing big stick (ala Big Papi) is what makes the difference.

 

It's early but I am still a little ill at ease.

 

There I said my peace (piece?) and now back to Rah Rah Red Sox :oD

Edited April 23, 2017 by SinceYaz
posted before I was finished ....

[Bellhorn04]

If we continue to be plagued by injuries and illness, the offense could be a problem.

 

What I'm reading now about Pedroia's knee is a little disconcerting.

 

But if the team stays relatively healthy, then the offense should be fine.

 

Let's just hope it doesn't become enigmatic.

[Kimmi]

Let's just hope it doesn't become enigmatic.

 

Ha ha. Good one.

[mvp 78]

Lyons and Rice were stating last night that pitchers are attacking the Sox with offspeed stuff. They need to adjust rather than wait on a FB that's not coming.

[jacksonianmarch]

I forgot about Hanley's sore shoulder. He had an April 2015 like no other then hurt his shoulder and was a shell of himself. Is healthy for 2016 and hits 30 homers. Re injures the shoulder and now looks like the post April 2015 self again

[Maxbialystock]

A couple of you mentioned Ortiz. Not long after Manny Ramirez left, I think in 2008, Ortiz began to complain that he couldn't "get a pitch to hit." This was and is a reminder that really good hitters like Manny and Papi help other hitters, especially those in front of them.

[mvp 78]

Max, I agree with you. Other posters will tell you there is no statistical evidence of players being pitched differently after a lineup change.

[jad]

A couple of you mentioned Ortiz. Not long after Manny Ramirez left, I think in 2008, Ortiz began to complain that he couldn't "get a pitch to hit." This was and is a reminder that really good hitters like Manny and Papi help other hitters, especially those in front of them.

 

Yeah, because after Manny left, Ortiz really sucked for the rest of his career.

[SinceYaz]

Yeah, because after Manny left, Ortiz really sucked for the rest of his career.

 

It took Papi a while to adjust to not having Manny as his cohort in the line up. Once he got used to life without Manny, he did better aside from injuries to his hand and feet.

 

And before you find fault with me, I am not knocking Ortiz in any fashion. I have been a stout supporter for David in other places, with no apologies for my affection.

[Kimmi]

Max, I agree with you. Other posters will tell you there is no statistical evidence of players being pitched differently after a lineup change.

 

There is evidence that batters are pitched to differently. There is no evidence that the batter's overall production is affected by it.

[SinceYaz]

There is evidence that batters are pitched to differently. There is no evidence that the batter's overall production is affected by it.

 

Aside from a lack of runs ... but that is merely a personal observation. (I think Sale might agree. Heh.)

[SinceYaz]

Mookie and Hanley bombed back to back in the first!

[Kimmi]

Mookie and Hanley bombed back to back in the first!

 

Good to see you Yaz. We have a game thread here if you'd like to join it.

[jad]

It took Papi a while to adjust to not having Manny as his cohort in the line up. Once he got used to life without Manny, he did better aside from injuries to his hand and feet.

 

And before you find fault with me, I am not knocking Ortiz in any fashion. I have been a stout supporter for David in other places, with no apologies for my affection.

 

Fault? There's no fault in you. We're just two dooffuses discussing sports (I see my last post sounded snide--unintended).

[mvp 78]

There is evidence that batters are pitched to differently. There is no evidence that the batter's overall production is affected by it.

 

That doesn't make sense to me.

[Kimmi]

That doesn't make sense to me.

 

"Protection is overrated. There's no evidence that having a superior batter behind another batter provides the initial batter with better pitches to hit; if it does, those batters see no improvement in performance as a result. Additionally, it's very rare that a situation arises in which run expectation drops after the pitching team walks the batter at the plate. Therefore, if the pitching team does walk a batter because it would rather pitch to the following man, it is almost always making a mistake by opening the door for a big inning. The situation changes late in close games as the importance of a single run begins to trump that of many runs, but even in those situations, the difference between the two batters would have to be extreme."

[Kimmi]

Hanley is apparently dealing with issues in both shoulders.

[notin]

Aside from a lack of runs ... but that is merely a personal observation. (I think Sale might agree. Heh.)

 

 

So .... Sox batters are pitched to differently on days Chris Sale pitches?

[Northern Star]

Hanley is apparently dealing with issues in both shoulders.

 

Thanks, Ben.