Sox hitting??

[mvp 78]

you ... whole article readin' mothaf***er

 

Not sure how hard swings or frequency of swings contribute to BABIP.

[mvp 78]

@EvanDrellich

 

Via @SoxNotes, Andrew Benintendi is hitting .500 with a .593 OBP in August. Eduardo Nunez is hitting .420 in 11 games since the trade

[moonslav59]

@EvanDrellich

 

Via @SoxNotes, Andrew Benintendi is hitting .500 with a .593 OBP in August. Eduardo Nunez is hitting .420 in 11 games since the trade

 

Nunez, Devers and Beni have carried us through this streak.

[User Name]

Also, as it turns out - he's a rookie.

 

That doesn't mean today what it used to a couple years ago SK. By the time kids reach MLB there's plenty of video, scouting and advanced stats on them, even if their milb exposure was limited. Too many resources.

[sk7326]

That doesn't mean today what it used to a couple years ago SK. By the time kids reach MLB there's plenty of video, scouting and advanced stats on them, even if their milb exposure was limited. Too many resources.

 

I meant that in reverse - Judge is a rookie ... that he would hit a rough patch, or start to have trouble 2nd time around - his issues since the break help confirm he is very good, but human. We'll see if he can figure this out.

[User Name]

I meant that in reverse - Judge is a rookie ... that he would hit a rough patch, or start to have trouble 2nd time around - his issues since the break help confirm he is very good, but human. We'll see if he can figure this out.

 

Gotcha. Agree. But usually high profile rookies like that hit the rough patch in their second season.

[Kimmi]

Well, whaddaya know! My observations were right (for once)!

 

Thanks for the research.

 

So, research/stats that support your opinion =good, research/stats that don't support your opinion = bad?

[Kimmi]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/baseballs-hot-hand-is-real/

 

Hot hand exists for pitching, not hitting.

 

MVP, newly crowned stat geek!

[S5Dewey]

So, research/stats that support your opinion =good, research/stats that don't support your opinion = bad?

 

Research that confirms the obvious = GOOD

[Emp9]

Not sure how hard swings or frequency of swings contribute to BABIP.

 

not sure either. I didn't read the article. hahaha

[Larry Cook]

Benintendi with a tater tonight against the Yankees.

[moonslav59]

Benintendi with a tater tonight against the Yankees.

 

He may get to an .800 OPS before too long. (He's at .793 after tonight.)

[oldtimer]

Sometimes there are critical junctures in a game that involve hitting or lack thereof. Last night with the bases loaded for the Sox and one ouf up came Young. His job was to put the ball in play, hopefully to the outfield. Two cases for worst case were ground into a double play or the next worse was to strike out. He did that without putting a bat on the ball. Then bogey grounded out weakly to the pitcher. The Sox still should have won but gave it away in the ninth. Maybe Bogey needs a rest, while we have to count on Young as a fill-in against lefties.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Sometimes there are critical junctures in a game that involve hitting or lack thereof. Last night with the bases loaded for the Sox and one ouf up came Young. His job was to put the ball in play, hopefully to the outfield. Two cases for worst case were ground into a double play or the next worse was to strike out. He did that without putting a bat on the ball. Then bogey grounded out weakly to the pitcher. The Sox still should have won but gave it away in the ninth. Maybe Bogey needs a rest, while we have to count on Young as a fill-in against lefties.

 

Great post. At this juncture of the game, I thought the Red Sox would lose. Yeah, they still had the lead but you figured the Yankees were going to score some runs and had a rally in them. They have a good offense and Yankees stadium is a hitter's park. The Red Sox had a chance to add on and Young swung at two curveballs in the dirt, it was such a pathetic at bat. And then like a kid in little league, Bogaerts hit a weak grounder back to the pitcher's mound.

 

Notwithstanding his big game the other day, Young should not be on this team. He has proven time and time again that he isn't any good (replacement level). Brentz has proven time and time again that he deserves a chance. By the way, Bogaerts now has a 0.9 WAR. In other words, Bogaerts is a reserve level player this year. His defense is bad at SS and, as we know, his hitting has fallen off.

 

I guess we don't have to worry about whether or not to give Bogaerts one of those 100 million dollar contracts. He has made that decision pretty easy for the organization.

Edited August 12, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

By the way, Brentz hit another HR. He should be on the 25 man roster (and in the lineup) on Sunday when the Red Sox face the Yankees lefty starter.

[Bellhorn04]

Notwithstanding his big game the other day, Young should not be on this team. He has proven time and time again that he isn't any good (replacement level). Brentz has proven time and time again that he deserves a chance.

 

Brentz is on a tear, but he has not 'proven time and time again that he deserves a chance'.

 

Here are his AAA OPS's for the 4 seasons prior to this one:

 

2013 .788 OK

2014 .806 OK

2015 .690 Sucks

2016 .680 Sucks

[S5Dewey]

By the way, Brentz hit another HR. He should be on the 25 man roster (and in the lineup) on Sunday when the Red Sox face the Yankees lefty starter.

 

I've always liked Brentz. He's a poor man's Brandon Moss. I always thought of him as someone who's not a good outfielder but he's serviceable enough for a team that needs a bat. His AAA numbers look a lot better this year since he's allegedly tweaked his swing.

 

This team could use a little power and it's looking like our choices are to either hope Moreland is out of his funk or hoping that Brentz can come up and contribute. The downside for Brentz is that there's no place on the team where I'd be comfortable with his defense where we can mix & match to make room for Moreland at 1B.

[notin]

It's amazing how fast the opinion of Young has fallen. Last year he was terrific, and fans were talking about how necessary it was to extend him. This year fans want him replaced by a career minor leaguer who should have been DFA'd two years ago. ..

[Fan_since_Boggs]

It's amazing how fast the opinion of Young has fallen. Last year he was terrific, and fans were talking about how necessary it was to extend him. This year fans want him replaced by a career minor leaguer who should have been DFA'd two years ago. ..

 

More than two-thirds of the season is over and the soon-to-be 34 year old Chris Young has a 0.0 WAR. There isn't much to debate. The Red Sox held on Young for one season too long, a common thing to do.

 

The downside for Brentz is that there's no place on the team where I'd be comfortable with his defense

According to Eric Van, Brentz's defense is better than Young's and so Brentz would not represent a defensive downgrade. I'm not sure what metrics he is looking at, though. Young hasn't play CF at all this year.

Edited August 12, 2017 by Fan_since_Boggs

[notin]

More than two-thirds of the season is over and the soon-to-be 34 year old Chris Young has a 0.0 WAR. There isn't much to debate. The Red Sox held on Young for one season too long, a common thing to do.

 

According to Eric Van, Brentz's defense is better than Young's and so Brentz would not represent a defensive downgrade. I'm not sure what metrics he is looking at, though. Young hasn't play CF at all this year.

 

I have no problem replacing Young. I just do think Brentz is any better, and his good season in AAA is more an argument against him than for him, considering how long he took to adjust to AAA pitching. If th

e Sox promote him now, will they reap the benefits in 2022? I'd actually rather see Rusney Castillo get the shot, but that isn't happening this year. Although it might next season.

 

For this year, the Sox probably need to find a cheaper Ryan Raburn type lefty masher on the waiver wire. Raburn himself, being in Washington, won't be available. But you get the idea...

[notin]

More than two-thirds of the season is over and the soon-to-be 34 year old Chris Young has a 0.0 WAR. There isn't much to debate. The Red Sox held on Young for one season too long, a common thing to do.

 

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Brentz has struck out in 25% of his at bats in AAA. How much of an upgrade is he over a 0.0 fWAR player?

[BstHcpr]

Brentz has struck out in 25% of his at bats in AAA. How much of an upgrade is he over a 0.0 fWAR player?

 

Completely marginal. He is not a difference maker at all.

[BstHcpr]

I have no problem replacing Young. I just do think Brentz is any better, and his good season in AAA is more an argument against him than for him, considering how long he took to adjust to AAA pitching. If th

e Sox promote him now, will they reap the benefits in 2022? I'd actually rather see Rusney Castillo get the shot, but that isn't happening this year. Although it might next season.

 

For this year, the Sox probably need to find a cheaper Ryan Raburn type lefty masher on the waiver wire. Raburn himself, being in Washington, won't be available. But you get the idea...

 

Raburn is Washington's 8th OF. They won't need him when Werth and Taylor are back.

[oldtimer]

More than two-thirds of the season is over and the soon-to-be 34 year old Chris Young has a 0.0 WAR. There isn't much to debate. The Red Sox held on Young for one season too long, a common thing to do.

 

 

According to Eric Van, Brentz's defense is better than Young's and so Brentz would not represent a defensive downgrade. I'm not sure what metrics he is looking at, though. Young hasn't play CF at all this year.

 

We are talking about a 4th outfielder who isn't that bad defensively. At times he can still hit but he is in a role where he only gets up infrequently so has to adjust on the fly. It will be time to replace him next year but for now he is our backup. Maybe some of the first string could pick it up a bit and Young wouldn't be in the game.

[Jasonbay44]

Bringing up Bryce Brentz is a 0 impact move that won't help the team but could hurt them. He's AAAA player, i don't get this fascination with him..

[BstHcpr]

Bringing up Bryce Brentz is a 0 impact move that won't help the team but could hurt them. He's AAAA player, i don't get this fascination with him..

 

Because Eric Van said he was good.

[Kimmi]

Not sure how hard swings or frequency of swings contribute to BABIP.

 

I didn't really get that point. Actually, I'm not sure I get the point of the entire article. Of course hot streaks and cold streaks exist. That is not and never has been the point of the 'hot hand' debate.

[Kimmi]

Research that confirms the obvious = GOOD

 

What about research that refutes what is, in your opinion, obvious?

[moonslav59]

My guess is we will add Brentz to the 40 man roster by the end of the month. We'll probably DFA Selsky, Noe Ramire, Henry Owens or Rutledge. He'll probably be called up in September, maybe get a few chances to PH or DH, maybe get a game in LF or two. If he gets a few instant hits, he may begin to see more and more opportunities.

 

He'll be given a very short leash, and with that sort of pressure, I'm not that confident he will deliver, but he's hot as hell right now. (He may not be in 2 weeks.)

[Kimmi]

We are talking about a 4th outfielder who isn't that bad defensively. At times he can still hit but he is in a role where he only gets up infrequently so has to adjust on the fly. It will be time to replace him next year but for now he is our backup. Maybe some of the first string could pick it up a bit and Young wouldn't be in the game.

 

I agree oldtimer. As a bench player, young is fine.