Sox hitting??

[SoxnCycles]

ehh, we still won the series.

 

Yup, after taking 2-3 from the Yankees, this loss doesn't bother me much.

It does remind me that a playoff series vs the Tribe isn't going to be easy.

 

They just need to kick the crap out of the Cards.

[Kimmi]

It seems to start with his plate approach. He continues to wag his bat until the pitch is delivered. One more hitch in the swing is one too many. He doesn't seem capable of getting out of the slump and the coaching he is getting isn't helping. I don't mind the lack of home runs, but would like to see a more consistent hard contact.

 

I agree about just making more hard contact versus home runs.

 

I am guessing that his wrist is still injured, at that has led to some poor mechanics/timing. As I said before, I'm not a batting coach, but what you say about wagging the bat makes sense. I wonder why the hitting coaches don't correct this.

[Kimmi]

Yup, after taking 2-3 from the Yankees, this loss doesn't bother me much.

It does remind me that a playoff series vs the Tribe isn't going to be easy.

 

They just need to kick the crap out of the Cards.

 

The Cards have been hot lately. They need to be cooled off.

[SoxnCycles]

The Cards have been hot lately. They need to be cooled off.

 

As long as the Sox aren't facing a mediocre pitcher tonight, they're good to go!

[Slasher9]

As long as the Sox aren't facing a mediocre pitcher tonight, they're good to go!

 

lol. +2 points.

[Bellhorn04]

As long as the Sox aren't facing a mediocre pitcher tonight, they're good to go!

 

I get your point, but I could also probably dig up a bunch of posts that say we can't hit good pitching LOL

[Station 13]

It's still mystifying this team is not geared up to hit strike 1 when runners on. Teams are stealing a free strike down the middle at will.

[fxkatt]

Yup, after taking 2-3 from the Yankees, this loss doesn't bother me much.

It does remind me that a playoff series vs the Tribe isn't going to be easy....

 

And why do I think that Jay Bruce might be a factor for the Guardians in that series with us... I think they've been undefeated since they acquired him.

[SoxnCycles]

I get your point, but I could also probably dig up a bunch of posts that say we can't hit good pitching LOL

 

"We can't hit pitching" works.

[Bellhorn04]

And why do I think that Jay Bruce might be a factor for the Guardians in that series with us... I think they've been undefeated since they acquired him.

 

They are indeed 3-0 in his starts.

 

I have to say I'm surprised that teams were able to pick up good bats for peanuts this year-Bruce, Duda, Nunez.

[moonslav59]

They are indeed 3-0 in his starts.

 

I have to say I'm surprised that teams were able to pick up good bats for peanuts this year-Bruce, Duda, Nunez.

 

JD Martinez and others...

[oldtimer]

Incredible display of Sox hitting with 13 plate aqppearances in one inning and 8 runs. No HRs either. Greaqt basis for a win tonight.

[Kimmi]

Last night was a good sign for Xander. Maybe they finally figured something out, though they did finally admit that Xander's hand was still bothering him.

 

Mookie looks so lost. I read that he has seen an increase of sliders away by 25%. That pitch is killing him. He's swinging at some of those that aren't even close. He needs to quickly make the adjustment and start laying off of that pitch.

[oldtimer]

Last night was a good sign for Xander. Maybe they finally figured something out, though they did finally admit that Xander's hand was still bothering him.

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Mookie looks so lost. I read that he has seen an increase of sliders away by 25%. That pitch is killing him. He's swinging at some of those that aren't even close. He needs to quickly make the adjustment and start laying off of that pitch.

 

Is it lack or coaching or hard of listening. We can't know, but it seems that corrections are not being made.

[devildavid]

How come the best hitter on the team isn't the best hitter on the team?

[moonslav59]

How come the best hitter on the team isn't the best hitter on the team?

 

Because nothing in baseball is easily predictable.

[Kimmi]

Is it lack or coaching or hard of listening. We can't know, but it seems that corrections are not being made.

 

I don't know oldtimer. Maybe it's not a lack of either, but just that some things are easier said than done.

[oldtimer]

I don't know oldtimer. Maybe it's not a lack of either, but just that some things are easier said than done.

 

Watching the pitchig to Beni tonight and same with Moreland. Beni had two strikes and probably had to swing at balls close on the outside part of the plate. Both resulted in balls to the third baseman, one for a double play and one for a forceout. Moreland hit a little grounder to third as well again on an outside pitch. The pitcher is cagey but they may get to him on the third time around. Adjust and conquer.

[Larry Cook]

I have more confidence in benintendi figuring out how to punch outside pitchers the other way than Moreland.

 

Three types of hitters in the majors:

 

Those that make it happen.

 

Those that watch it happen.

 

And those that say what happened?

 

I think we all know which type Moreland is!

[Spudboy]

It's not like anyone expected Moreland to be anything but a stop-gap .230 hitting, 20HR, glovey type.

 

He looks like who he is and what he has been.

 

Although I have not seen the Gold Glove play yet.

[moonslav59]

I doubt Moreland is back next year. Maybe we'll look for the next 1 year 1Bman, and hope we guess right like TB did this year.

[Emp9]

How come the best hitter on the team isn't the best hitter on the team?

 

.... because of .... John Farrell? That's my educated guess.

[Bellhorn04]

.... because of .... John Farrell? That's my educated guess.

 

Sure, when in doubt, blame the manager.

[mvp 78]

It's not like anyone expected Moreland to be anything but a stop-gap .230 hitting, 20HR, glovey type.

 

He looks like who he is and what he has been.

 

Although I have not seen the Gold Glove play yet.

That's the problem.

[Maxbialystock]

I agree about just making more hard contact versus home runs.

 

I am guessing that his wrist is still injured, at that has led to some poor mechanics/timing. As I said before, I'm not a batting coach, but what you say about wagging the bat makes sense. I wonder why the hitting coaches don't correct this.

 

Benintendi also wags his bat. I've been told it's OK as long as the bat is still and in the right position when the pitcher releases the ball or something like that.

[Maxbialystock]

.... because of .... John Farrell? That's my educated guess.

 

Betts leads the team in rbi's, runs, and total bases. This is unsat?

[Slasher9]

Benintendi also wags his bat. I've been told it's OK as long as the bat is still and in the right position when the pitcher releases the ball or something like that.

 

hand movement prior to load is fine and encouraged by many. it keeps the hands "loose". there is absolutely zero wrong with bat waggle.

[Maxbialystock]

OK, the hitting is a worry. I get it. Heck, I started the thread because I like to panic early.

 

I am also aware of moonslav's strong opinion that Farrell is the wrong manager, especially as reflected in, he says, at least two bonehead plays every single game.

 

 

However, from July 31 to the present the Sox have played 14 games and averaged 6 runs per game and are 12-2 for those games, including a couple or so wins when we did not score 4 or more runs.

 

On top of that we finally have a true ace in Sale, a great closer in Kimbrel, and the knowledge that Betts, Bogaerts, Ramirez, et al,can hit better than they have been hitting thus far. Nunez and Devers--to my great delight because I never thought they would make much difference--seem finally to have pushed the ghost of Ortiz off stage just enough for this to team to play the way they are capable of. Even without Pedroia. Or Price.

[mvp 78]

hand movement prior to load is fine and encouraged by many. it keeps the hands "loose". there is absolutely zero wrong with bat waggle.

 

Yup, I've seen a lot of video on waggle this year showing that it can be a great tool for added power if used the right way.

[oldtimer]

Benintendi also wags his bat. I've been told it's OK as long as the bat is still and in the right position when the pitcher releases the ball or something like that.

 

Lots of players have a tendency to wag their bat or some other move but need to be set when the pitch is delivered. I think Beni has a nice approach and does get setl whereas Bogey was not totally set and that may have led to a hitch in his swing. He has shown a good ability to hit most years beforre the all star break and certainly can again by making adjustments. Maybe there are signs of that hasppening which would be excellent for the Sox.

 

Just a note. The Cardinals starting pitcher was good last night. He had good velocity and his fastball appeared to sink, giving us a long of ground balls and swinging strikes. He also had good location, painting the outside corner to Beni, Moreland and Betts. When he made a mistake coming into Betts on one pitch, Betts got him for a single. Some times you have to tip your hit to a good pitching performance. I expected the third time around the order to improve, but our heroics came mainly in the ninth. Good win and confidence booster.