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I'd be interested in knowing how BAPIP correlates to exit velocity. It would seem that there are two ways a player could have an inordinately high BAPIP, by getting a quick start out of the batter's box or by squaring up on the ball and hitting it hard. High exit velocity means one of two things. Either a ground ball is getting through the infield more quickly than average or there are more uncatchable balls, usually home runs or balls hit off the walls and fences.

 

My very unprofessional observation is that JBJ is hitting the ball hard AND hitting a lot of balls off the wall. He's spraying the ball around and hitting it where they ain't. While I don't expect his BAPIP to remain at the .400 mark it does seem to me that some players are going to have a higher BAPIP than others just like some players have a higher BA than others.

 

Some players do sustain higher BABip's over their careers, mainly because they hit more line drives, I think.

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A couple years ago someone on the BDC forum started a thread on 'what is your favorite stat about this team'?

I'd like to pose that question for this team. Something I was thinking about today is

Xander Bogaerts, at .349/.404/.513 .917 OPS is only the 3rd best hitter on the team

add to that

Travis Shaw, at .306/.372/.529 .902 OPS is 4th

 

What else you got?

 

Here's a fun pitching stat...and I realize BA is not the crucial stat it was once thought to be, but opponents are batting .098 against Kimbrel.

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i agree with Potato on the Hanley with 0 errors stat. and did you see his interactions with Hernandez during the top of the 8th? awesome. i swear this team is so loose and "fun" because of HanRam. IMO.

 

My favorite Hanram hightlight so far:

 

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I'd be interested in knowing how BAPIP correlates to exit velocity. It would seem that there are two ways a player could have an inordinately high BAPIP, by getting a quick start out of the batter's box or by squaring up on the ball and hitting it hard. High exit velocity means one of two things. Either a ground ball is getting through the infield more quickly than average or there are more uncatchable balls, usually home runs or balls hit off the walls and fences.

 

My very unprofessional observation is that JBJ is hitting the ball hard AND hitting a lot of balls off the wall. He's spraying the ball around and hitting it where they ain't. While I don't expect his BAPIP to remain at the .400 mark it does seem to me that some players are going to have a higher BAPIP than others just like some players have a higher BA than others.

 

Exit velocity/line drive rate/BABIP mostly share a positive correlation, but some guys (Ichiro, Juan Pierre) made a living for years off of "running swings" which help inflate the number of infield hits on badly-hit balls. Ichiro could do it while still hitting the ball hard consistently, which is almost an inhuman ability.

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Some players do sustain higher BABip's over their careers, mainly because they hit more line drives, I think.

 

Not always, but mostly.

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I'm not sure if someone pointed this out already but the Red Sox have scored 80 runs more than the "god of offense" Jays while playing 2 games fewer.
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I'm not sure if someone pointed this out already but the Red Sox have scored 80 runs more than the "god of offense" Jays while playing 2 games fewer.

 

Sox have hit 41 more 2Bs than Tor as well

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I'd be interested in knowing how BAPIP correlates to exit velocity. It would seem that there are two ways a player could have an inordinately high BAPIP, by getting a quick start out of the batter's box or by squaring up on the ball and hitting it hard. High exit velocity means one of two things. Either a ground ball is getting through the infield more quickly than average or there are more uncatchable balls, usually home runs or balls hit off the walls and fences.

 

My very unprofessional observation is that JBJ is hitting the ball hard AND hitting a lot of balls off the wall. He's spraying the ball around and hitting it where they ain't. While I don't expect his BAPIP to remain at the .400 mark it does seem to me that some players are going to have a higher BAPIP than others just like some players have a higher BA than others.

 

There is an interesting correlation with line drive rate, but it's not perfect. (Like 0.3 or so when I checked, positive but noisy) I think the flipside is a bit more controllable - that pitchers can control BABIP better than hitters can.

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WAR uses a complex formula which attempts to evaluate the whole player relative to other players and can be applied to pitchers as well as position players.

 

As of today, the WAR rankings by position for Sox players--compared to all other MLB players at the same position--are:

 

1B/Ramirez: 10th

2B/Pedroia: 5th

3B/Shaw: 3d

SS/Bogaerts: 1st

CF/Bradley: 3d

RF/Betts: 4th

DH/Ortiz 1st

LF none "qualified" (not enough AB's/games)

C none "qualified" (ditto)

P Wright 24th

P Porcello 49th

P Tazawa 83d

P Kimbrel 88th

P Price 396th

P Buchholz 448th

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Didn't you create a WAR thread like two days ago? And didn't you yourself mention later that it probably should have gone in the offense thread? And didn't I then move it to that thread?

 

Honestly I'm starting to feel like you guys are doing this on purpose.

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maybe Earl Weaver was wrong. Pitching, defense, and the 2 run double? I can get behind it.

 

Fenway is a doubles park.

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Haven't been in for a while, been travelling the past few weeks. Now I've caught up, I feel like I am watching a man's slow descent into madness.

 

Been a fun few weeks for you YOTN, huh? :eek:

 

The offence has been flat out spectacular thus far. Been so fun to watch.

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Haven't been in for a while, been travelling the past few weeks. Now I've caught up, I feel like I am watching a man's slow descent into madness.

 

Been a fun few weeks for you YOTN, huh? :eek:

 

The offence has been flat out spectacular thus far. Been so fun to watch.

 

I think I owe all of my high school teachers a heartfelt apology.

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I do feel sorry for YOTN recently. He's had to play policeman a whole lot more than he's used to in the last few months :P
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I'm not sure if someone pointed this out already but the Red Sox have scored 80 runs more than the "god of offense" Jays while playing 2 games fewer.

 

 

Hey Sean,

 

Welcome aboard! I had not looked at how many more runs, but you did make me smile with the point you're making. I do think we will score a bit less in the rest of the season, simply because we will be playing more games away from Fenway. If my math is right we have 54 games left in the Fens and 62 on the road. We have been doing the double digit mash at Fenway and are much more pedestrian on the road.

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Didn't you create a WAR thread like two days ago? And didn't you yourself mention later that it probably should have gone in the offense thread? And didn't I then move it to that thread?

 

Honestly I'm starting to feel like you guys are doing this on purpose.

 

 

 

The strain must be unbearable, sir. :)

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Interesting stat: In 2004, 2007, and 2013 the Red Sox led or tied for the MLB lead in team doubles.

 

Interesting tidbit.

 

Keep the line moving!!!

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Interesting stat: In 2004, 2007, and 2013 the Red Sox led or tied for the MLB lead in team doubles.

 

You build around the ballpark you have

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And in 2007, all of them were hit by Mike Lowell.

 

Lowell carried Manny's water for him late in that season while Manny was trying to figure out what knee hurt.

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I'm not sure if someone pointed this out already but the Red Sox have scored 80 runs more than the "god of offense" Jays while playing 2 games fewer.

And what team ranks second in the American League in runs scored despite playing home games in a pitcher-friendly venue?

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And what team ranks second in the American League in runs scored despite playing home games in a pitcher-friendly venue?

 

Must be your Seattle Mariners. They are having a fine season so far. Maybe we'll meet in the ALCS?

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Didn't you create a WAR thread like two days ago? And didn't you yourself mention later that it probably should have gone in the offense thread? And didn't I then move it to that thread?

 

Honestly I'm starting to feel like you guys are doing this on purpose.

 

Sorry. To me this one is different because it has more data, including the pitchers. It therefore paints a different picture. I also like that several are ranked very high among all MLB players at their position, but the pitchers are ranked way, way down.

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