Red Sox (Bello) vs Braves (Holmes): 5/17/26, 1:35pm

[Old Red]

21 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I think going from being about the worst at 1B for several years to #4 is great... not good.

Considering he was the #2 option after Alonso turned down the Red Sox first he’s been a good pick up so far.

[mvp 78]

19 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Did we really need terrible AI slop? This team is bad enough! 🤮

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, Randy Red Sox said:

i didn't say he was a bad move just that he wasn't really a GREAT move.

It was a good move as a complimentary move to be paired with a real slugger like Schwarber or Alonso. We needed Contreras AND another player. 
But Henry was too cheap to get one or BresLOW was too stupid.

Or both.

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

It was a good move as a complimentary move to be paired with a real slugger like Schwarber or Alonso. We needed Contreras AND another player. 
But Henry was too cheap to get one or BresLOW was too stupid.

Or both.

We all agree it should have been Contreras AND another bat. No argument. 

[FredLynn]

15 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

We all agree it should have been Contreras AND another bat. No argument. 

And yet BresLOW is still working for the franchise. He did a half ass job and I guess he expects the fans to swallow it. I don’t get why anyone is still going to the park. 

[Old Red]

19 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

And yet BresLOW is still working for the franchise. He did a half ass job and I guess he expects the fans to swallow it. I don’t get why anyone is still going to the park. 

Tickets were already bought, and many fans from the opposing team.

[Randy Red Sox]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I think going from being about the worst at 1B for several years to #4 is great... not good.

i am not complying about Conteras but a .253 avg with about a 33% K rate doesn't qualify as GREAT in my books., But he is WAY DOWN the list of issues this team has. Myself I'd give him a B grade.

[moonslav59]

20 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

i am not complying about Conteras but a .253 avg with about a 33% K rate doesn't qualify as GREAT in my books., But he is WAY DOWN the list of issues this team has. Myself I'd give him a B grade.

He's on pace for 30+ dingers and about 100 rbi with nobody getting on base in front of him.

We can argue about what "great" is, but I call it a great move.

He costs us about $20M and some second tier prospects.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

19 hours ago, king koji said:

Baseball stinks now.

Not because Sox are bad. Game is BOR-ING.

Offense is down, and not coming back.

Analytics destroyed this sport.

 

#Baseball is broken.

When nerds get involved with sports, what could possibly go wrong?

[moonslav59]

13 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

When nerds get involved with sports, what could possibly go wrong?

I guess some nerds are ex-players, too. (Brez & Cora)

[Kimmi]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

We all agree it should have been Contreras AND another bat. No argument. 

Even though things look really bad offensively, I didn't think we needed another bat.  We need the guys we have to get on base like they are capable of getting on base, namely Durbin and Duran, and to a lesser extent Anthony, even though he's on the IL right now.

Case in point:  Milwaukee Brewers   Last in HRs, 28th in slugging, 3rd in OBP, 4th in baserunning (BsR), 8th in runs scored.  

 

[Kimmi]

18 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I guess some nerds are ex-players, too. (Brez & Cora)

Personally, I'm a big fan of nerds, baseball and otherwise.

[moonslav59]

31 minutes ago, Kimmi said:

Even though things look really bad offensively, I didn't think we needed another bat.  We need the guys we have to get on base like they are capable of getting on base, namely Durbin and Duran, and to a lesser extent Anthony, even though he's on the IL right now.

There was too much speculative value on the opening day roster. Getting one more big bat was a hedge against too many players doing poorly.

If anyone thinks we could have gotten a big bat AND Suarez (or Gray,) I fully disagree. Okay, could have "if JH spent more," but that wasn't happening.

It was either or.

Let's say we got Bregman, then our rotation would have Bello & Bennett, right now.

[Old Red]

25 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

There was too much speculative value on the opening day roster. Getting one more big bat was a hedge against too many players doing poorly.

If anyone thinks we could have gotten a big bat AND Suarez (or Gray,) I fully disagree. Okay, could have "if JH spent more," but that wasn't happening.

It was either or.

Let's say we got Bregman, then our rotation would have Bello & Bennett, right now.

Let’s NOT say if we got Bregman that Gray wouldn’t be on the team. Gray was already on the team when the deal for Bregman fell through as was the Con Man. Alonso was offered a deal first, so the only difference if Alonso had signed, and Bregman had signed was there would have been no Ranger, but Alonso, Bregman, and Gray would have been on the team. Easy peasy.

[notin]

1 hour ago, Old Red said:

Let’s NOT say if we got Bregman that Gray wouldn’t be on the team. Gray was already on the team when the deal for Bregman fell through as was the Con Man. Alonso was offered a deal first, so the only difference if Alonso had signed, and Bregman had signed was there would have been no Ranger, but Alonso, Bregman, and Gray would have been on the team. Easy peasy.

What makes you think they would have signed both Alonso and Bregman?

[Duran Is The Man]

8 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

The Phils have cream that most knew would eventually rise to the top.

The Sox are skim milk 

more like the milk that's gone bad and makes you want to puke when you open it.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

more like the milk that's gone bad and makes you want to puke when you open it.

Please direct all hate to the Sox offense. Their pitching and defense have been top notch.

[FredLynn]

16 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

There was too much speculative value on the opening day roster. Getting one more big bat was a hedge against too many players doing poorly.

If anyone thinks we could have gotten a big bat AND Suarez (or Gray,) I fully disagree. Okay, could have "if JH spent more," but that wasn't happening.

It was either or.

Let's say we got Bregman, then our rotation would have Bello & Bennett, right now.

Of course getting Suarez and another big bat besides Contreras was possible-if not for the cheapskate owner and our incompetent GM (or whatever BresLOWS title is nowadays). There was nothing else stopping them. Henry is trying to build a team on the cheap to maximize profits and this is the predictable result. The worst part of it is that Henry is lying to the fans. At the very least he should be honest about his priorities.

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Of course getting Suarez and another big bat besides Contreras was possible-if not for the cheapskate owner and our incompetent GM (or whatever BresLOWS title is nowadays). There was nothing else stopping them. Henry is trying to build a team on the cheap to maximize profits and this is the predictable result. The worst part of it is that Henry is lying to the fans. At the very least he should be honest about his priorities.

Broken record time.

[drewski6]

The only argument one can make against the Contreras move being great is that hes 34, 35 next year and if the team doesnt start winning soon, this year could be shot.  At which point he could become a trade chip at hte deadline this year, if we fall too far out of it ,but I dont think they would do that.  

If the team make the playoffs this year, hes a great add, or at least as great of an acquisition as getting a 1-2 yr contract attached to an old player can be.

[FredLynn]

50 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Broken record time.

Yup. Because you still don't get it, obviously.

[Kimmi]

22 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

There was too much speculative value on the opening day roster. Getting one more big bat was a hedge against too many players doing poorly.

If anyone thinks we could have gotten a big bat AND Suarez (or Gray,) I fully disagree. Okay, could have "if JH spent more," but that wasn't happening.

It was either or.

Let's say we got Bregman, then our rotation would have Bello & Bennett, right now.

IMO, we should be a middle of the pack offense, at worst, not one of the bottom 2 or 3.  With elite pitching, that should have been good enough.  I was one who preferred that we added another starter over adding another bat.  All that said, I understand the point of view of those who wanted to add a big bat.

[Kimmi]

On the topic of Bello, what would make him pitch so poorly as a starter, but pitch very well following a 1-inning opener?  Is it really that much more challenging to get through the top of the lineup at the beginning of the game?  Is it all mental?