Red Sox Ace Garrett Crochet Heads To Injured List With Shoulder Inflammation

[mvp 78]

8 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

didn't you say Sandal would be in the rotation?

 

He would have been if he wasn't injured. Sandoval thought he was going to be able to pitch in games last season. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He would have been if he wasn't injured. Sandoval thought he was going to be able to pitch in games last season. 

Red Sox fans knew better. But he should be ready mid-season -- no, next year -- when he'll be better than anyone we could trade for at the deadline. Lied Sam Kennedy, over and over and over again.

 

[Hugh2]

13 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Eaton is a better offensive player, but much worse defensively. I think their scouting saw more in Durbin than what we're getting on the field. I think their internal metrics and projections aren't all they're cracked up to be. 

Is he???

Durbin vs. Eaton

AAA .858 ops vs. .799 and Durbin has put up most of his at bats younger 

AA .755 ops vs. .731 Durbin 23 vs. Eaton 25

Eaton also has a milb K% of 21.7% vs. Durbins 9.1 k%  He's striking out almost 2.5 times more than Durbing

Durbin has a BB% of 10.7% vs. Eatons 8.75%

Durbin has a career ops of .685 in the majors vs. Eatons .610

what am i missing???

 

[Old Red]

7 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Is he???

Durbin vs. Eaton

AAA .858 ops vs. .799 and Durbin has put up most of his at bats younger 

AA .755 ops vs. .731 Durbin 23 vs. Eaton 25

Eaton also has a milb K% of 21.7% vs. Durbins 9.1 k%  He's striking out almost 2.5 times more than Durbing

Durbin has a BB% of 10.7% vs. Eatons 8.75%

Durbin has a career ops of .685 in the majors vs. Eatons .610

what am i missing???

 

Personally I only care what’s going on today with DUBin, and what’s going on today is a Major League glove, and a Little League bat.

[Hugh2]

2 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Personally I only care what’s going on today with DUBin, and what’s going on today is a Major League glove, and a Little League bat.

Yeah.....the whole team sucks right now.  There's very little going right.

I think we get stuck in this tunnel of believing there is some kind of silver bullet to fix this team and I firmly believe that when you start acting on that you're just as likley to fudge things up even more and hurt the future even more. 

At the end of the day, there's nothing that can be done that will help this team if the players they have on this roster don't start hitting.  I've made the case that Durbin is a better offensive player than Eaton, even if I'm wrong so what? Maybe Eaton comes up and does perform better is his .610 OPS going to raise the bar????

It sucks, and I know fans don't want to hear this but.......it is what it is. 

[mvp 78]

33 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Red Sox fans knew better. But he should be ready mid-season -- no, next year -- when he'll be better than anyone we could trade for at the deadline. Lied Sam Kennedy, over and over and over again.

Crack medical staff. 

[Hugh2]

I'm in no way shape or form trying to sugar coat antying here.  Crochet going down stinks and it's very worrisome, hopefully it's nothing too serious. 

If he does miss significant time, one small sliver of goodness that comes from that is his opt out in 2031 is dropped and the Sox pick up a $15.00 option in 2032.  His age 31, 32 seasons. 

[mvp 78]

22 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Is he???

Durbin vs. Eaton

AAA .858 ops vs. .799 and Durbin has put up most of his at bats younger 

AA .755 ops vs. .731 Durbin 23 vs. Eaton 25

Eaton also has a milb K% of 21.7% vs. Durbins 9.1 k%  He's striking out almost 2.5 times more than Durbing

Durbin has a BB% of 10.7% vs. Eatons 8.75%

Durbin has a career ops of .685 in the majors vs. Eatons .610

what am i missing???

I'd pinch hit Nate Eaton for Durbin right now. Better bat speed, barrels the ball more. Eaton had a decent whiff rate last time he was up. Durbin has been really dreadful this season. His xwOBAcon is bottom 2% in MLB. Everything he pulls, goes straight into the ground and into a fielder's glove. 

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

It sucks, and I know fans don't want to hear this but.......it is what it is. 

[drewski6]

2 hours ago, cp176 said:

I wonder if I’m one of the few who thinks that Eaton should have gotten the chance to play third a long time before making a trade for Durbin.  

At least as a supersub/platoon after Romy went down, I wanted him to make the team.  But then he cooled as spring went on.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

He would have been if he wasn't injured. Sandoval thought he was going to be able to pitch in games last season. 

He asked about sandal, not sandoval!  

Joe Montana was a QB

I know, thats why I said Joe Montainya

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Is he???

Durbin vs. Eaton

AAA .858 ops vs. .799 and Durbin has put up most of his at bats younger 

AA .755 ops vs. .731 Durbin 23 vs. Eaton 25

Eaton also has a milb K% of 21.7% vs. Durbins 9.1 k%  He's striking out almost 2.5 times more than Durbing

Durbin has a BB% of 10.7% vs. Eatons 8.75%

Durbin has a career ops of .685 in the majors vs. Eatons .610

what am i missing???

 

What you are missing is that debating Durbin vs Eaton is like debating turnips vs beets.

[Hugh2]

41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I'd pinch hit Nate Eaton for Durbin right now. Better bat speed, barrels the ball more. Eaton had a decent whiff rate last time he was up. Durbin has been really dreadful this season. His xwOBAcon is bottom 2% in MLB. Everything he pulls, goes straight into the ground and into a fielder's glove. 

I get he looks better under the hood, but in the end results matter.  I pay more attention to those things nowadays too, especially when trying to predict what a guy will do in the future but sometimes it just does not matter, there are players in mlb who have below average bat speed but put up great offensive numbers. 

Durbin and Eaton have well over 3,000 PA's in the minors between them and Durbin has clearly had better results.  

If EAton had better bat speed and we were comparing small sample sizes I'd agree with you but we have a lot of results on the field that say otherwise. 

[drewski6]

59 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Personally I only care what’s going on today with DUBin, and what’s going on today is a Major League glove, and a Little League bat.

Does he actually use child sized bats?

[Hugh2]

Just now, drewski6 said:

What you are missing is that debating Durbin vs Eaton is like debating turnips vs beets.

I'm 100% not missing that at all.  A point I've been driving home here is there is no silver bullet fixing this team and even if Eaton was a marginal improvement over Durbin it's not going to move the needle, I'd say I'm the opposite of missing that. 

[drewski6]

45 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I'd pinch hit Nate Eaton for Durbin right now. Better bat speed, barrels the ball more. Eaton had a decent whiff rate last time he was up. Durbin has been really dreadful this season. His xwOBAcon is bottom 2% in MLB. Everything he pulls, goes straight into the ground and into a fielder's glove. 

Just make sure you pinch run Durbin for Eaton though

(sorry, Notin, just trolling you, bud)

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I'm 100% not missing that at all.  A point I've been driving home here is there is no silver bullet fixing this team and even if Eaton was a marginal improvement over Durbin it's not going to move the needle, I'd say I'm the opposite of missing that. 

Fair.  A side of turnips is not going to save a lousy meal.

[drewski6]

A sprinkle of drugs may

[drewski6]

What this team needs is 2 things.  1. Cream and 2. Clear

[drewski6]

A good team "pharmacist", anyone got Andy Pettites boys number?  Maybe some torpedo bats too or was that a one year and done thing?

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

What you are missing is that debating Durbin vs Eaton is like debating turnips vs beets.

I'll take those over rutabaga. 

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I get he looks better under the hood, but in the end results matter.  I pay more attention to those things nowadays too, especially when trying to predict what a guy will do in the future but sometimes it just does not matter, there are players in mlb who have below average bat speed but put up great offensive numbers. 

Durbin and Eaton have well over 3,000 PA's in the minors between them and Durbin has clearly had better results.  

If EAton had better bat speed and we were comparing small sample sizes I'd agree with you but we have a lot of results on the field that say otherwise. 

Durbin would do better in the minors because he puts the ball in play more vs worse defense. That goes away vs superior defenses in MLB. It's why Braiden Ward has an OBP around .500 in AAA right now. I'd rather the better bat to ball profile of Eaton at that point. 

 

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I'm 100% not missing that at all.  A point I've been driving home here is there is no silver bullet fixing this team and even if Eaton was a marginal improvement over Durbin it's not going to move the needle, I'd say I'm the opposite of missing that. 

Eaton isn't going to fix anything, but I'd take his bat over Durbin's bat if we're just looking at that. 

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Just make sure you pinch run Durbin for Eaton though

(sorry, Notin, just trolling you, bud)

Eaton is faster than Durbin.

[notin]

21 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

He asked about sandal, not sandoval!  

Joe Montana was a QB

I know, thats why I said Joe Montainya

Montagna?

[notin]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Eaton is faster than Durbin.

Eaton is very fast.  Also throws very hard.  Two difficult skills to improve with coaching.

But he’s a mediocre hitter who probably becomes a bad hitter as his PAs increase…

[drewski6]

15 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Eaton is faster than Durbin.

It was a joke about the infamous non-tag.

[notin]

28 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Just make sure you pinch run Durbin for Eaton though

(sorry, Notin, just trolling you, bud)

That was mvp you trolled.  We’re different people.  He’s taller, but I’m more handsome and wittier…

[drewski6]

Just now, notin said:

That was mvp you trolled.  We’re different people.  He’s taller, but I’m more handsome and wittier…

Eaton shoulda tagged.

[notin]

Just now, drewski6 said:

Eaton shoulda tagged.

Tagged what?