Red Sox Have "Aggressive" Offer On Table For Alex Bregman

[mvp 78]

16 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I dont think the tax line matters as much as some think. Even the 10 draft pick spots isnt much cuz teams are drafting for signability and overslot vs underslot. Its not like baseketball or football where pick 10 vs pick 20 is huge.

I believe the drop in spots affects the overall draft capital to spend on picks which is a bigger issue. 

[mvp 78]

12 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

That's easy...

with the man without a position: Kristian Campbell.

Second choice: Casas.

Third choice: Romy/Narvaez when Wong or Contreras catch.

It's Eaton & Hamilton both on the roster with one of them getting demoted once Campbell gets a midseason callup. 

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It's Eaton & Hamilton both on the roster with one of them getting demoted once Campbell gets a midseason callup. 

With Campbell, I'm thinking it's a FT or near FT role or he stays in AAA. An injury could create that slot. A bad year by someone else could, too. A lot depends on whether an OF'er gets traded, this winter and or, if Duran is significantly used at DH.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I believe the drop in spots affects the overall draft capital to spend on picks which is a bigger issue. 

And when you look at how well we've done with comp picks and using the bonus signing money efficiently in recent years, I think it matters a lot to the Sox.

I seriously doubt we go past the second line- perhaps never.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I believe the drop in spots affects the overall draft capital to spend on picks which is a bigger issue. 

Yes, I didnt think of the slots and pools, I DIDNT THINK OF THE POOLS

But touche, good point

[drewski6]

13 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

#56 among ALL hitters in wRC+ from 2023-24, at a minimum of 1000 PAs.

Just for fun, if we trade Duran for pitching, and you cut Yoshida, who would you replace him with?

Lodolo is a boss , but at this point in time, to think the pitching needs more help than the bats is nothing but pure delulu stubbornness.

We have the best rotation in the AL East , maybe the entire AL and 0 top 25 hitters. Z-E-R-O

[drewski6]

Our pitching was very good last year and carried us, our offense struggled.

We added more to our pitching this offseason than our offense

Pump the breaks on bats for pitching.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

With Campbell, I'm thinking it's a FT or near FT role or he stays in AAA. An injury could create that slot. A bad year by someone else could, too. A lot depends on whether an OF'er gets traded, this winter and or, if Duran is significantly used at DH.

Even if they trade an OFer, I doubt he's on the Opening Day roster. I could see them calling him up for a part time roll in the second half. 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

And when you look at how well we've done with comp picks and using the bonus signing money efficiently in recent years, I think it matters a lot to the Sox.

I seriously doubt we go past the second line- perhaps never.

With how JH is currently spending, I don't see it either. Kind of a shame. I think they may have to splurge at some point and push the envelope.

[mvp 78]

15 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Lodolo is a boss , but at this point in time, to think the pitching needs more help than the bats is nothing but pure delulu stubbornness.

We have the best rotation in the AL East , maybe the entire AL and 0 top 25 hitters. Z-E-R-O

Found the real delulu. 

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I believe the drop in spots affects the overall draft capital to spend on picks which is a bigger issue. 

Same as I said with Bregman.  The price tag of $32M was fine.  The options we gave him made it weaker.  But the draft choices really bite.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

With Campbell, I'm thinking it's a FT or near FT role or he stays in AAA. 

Just as long as we don't start calling him Rusney.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

With Campbell, I'm thinking it's a FT or near FT role or he stays in AAA.

That's the issue with the idea of KC as Yoshi's replacement.  'Right now', he is not a professional hitter.  I have faith in him, in the long run, but he would be a major downgrade offensively.

[JoeBrady]

48 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

We have the best rotation in the AL East , maybe the entire AL and 0 top 25 hitters. Z-E-R-O

That's true, but it is top-heavy.  Our 1-3 is fairly close to the top.  And guys like Sandoval & Oviedo are good candidates for the 4-5 slots.  But I would like a little more certainty.  I'm not concerned about Yoshi's hitting.

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

That's the issue with the idea of KC as Yoshi's replacement.  'Right now', he is not a professional hitter.  I have faith in him, in the long run, but he would be a major downgrade offensively.

Well, do you believe in his first month of production and that he dropped off due to in season injury? How do you feel about his winter ball results? What about him putting on a lot of good weight this offseason? 

I can't convince myself yet either. 

[JoeBrady]

16 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Well, do you believe in his first month of production and that he dropped off due to in season injury? How do you feel about his winter ball results? What about him putting on a lot of good weight this offseason? 

• I'm going with the eye test on this one.  I think he has a good swing, with good instincts using the whole field.  He looks like Betts to me, except he can't field, but he is athletic enough to adapt.
• His winter results were a mixed bag.  Nice K/W, but walks disappear in the pros.  And he had -0- HRs.  That could simply be our scouts refining his approach.
• But his AAA results were awful.  A 19/6 K/W in September with 1 HR?
• Good weight is undefined to me.  Probably good, but maybe not.

So I see two questions.  The first devolved from questioning who would replace Yoshi, if Duran got traded.  I don't see any chance Campbell would do the job.  We'd probably lose at least 40 OPS points.

Which leads me to my second question.  What is KC's best long-term development?  If we replaced Yoshi's projected .767 with some 25 year old AAAA .725, I could be talked into it.  But IMVHO, Campbell needs a full year of AAA.  He was a top-10 prospect less than a year ago.  Trying to promote him to replace Yoshi would be irresponsible.

[moonslav59]

40 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

That's the issue with the idea of KC as Yoshi's replacement.  'Right now', he is not a professional hitter.  I have faith in him, in the long run, but he would be a major downgrade offensively.

Casas/Romy/Narvaez would be the immediate replacements, assuming an OF'er is traded.

[moonslav59]

42 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Just as long as we don't start calling him Rusney.

I think KC is going to be more than fine.

[drewski6]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Found the real delulu. 

Jeff Hardy has one last WWE championship run in him
 

[drewski6]

Just now, drewski6 said:

Jeff Hardy has one last WWE championship run in him
 

I say one last like hes had more than one short stint at the top (of the singles division)

[drewski6]

3 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

That's true, but it is top-heavy.  Our 1-3 is fairly close to the top.  And guys like Sandoval & Oviedo are good candidates for the 4-5 slots.  But I would like a little more certainty.  I'm not concerned about Yoshi's hitting.

I feel that you are underrating Tolle and Early.

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Jeff Hardy has one last WWE championship run in him
 

[drewski6]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Casas/Romy/Narvaez would be the immediate replacements, assuming an OF'er is traded.

Tolle hit at witchita st, just saying.

[drewski6]

Just now, drewski6 said:

Tolle hit at witchita st, just saying.

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1po068n/red_sox_pitcher_payton_tolle_explains_his_new/

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

I feel that you are underrating Tolle and Early.

Tolle isn't ready yet.

[moonslav59]

The bell may Tolle Early, this season.

[drewski6]

7 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Tolle isn't ready yet.

For Asuka?

[Kimmi]

5 hours ago, drewski6 said:

Lodolo is a boss , but at this point in time, to think the pitching needs more help than the bats is nothing but pure delulu stubbornness.

We have the best rotation in the AL East , maybe the entire AL and 0 top 25 hitters. Z-E-R-O

Stubborn, yes.  Delusional, no.

We could potentially have the best rotation in the AL, but there is a lot of uncertainty there.  A LOT of uncertainty.  Granted, there is also a lot of uncertainty with some of our current bats, but I've always been one who would much prefer to have a top pitching staff and a mediocre offense rather than the other way around.  In a perfect world we'll add another starter and another bat.  If we can only add one, however, I'd rather add a #2 starter.

[moonslav59]

There is nothing wrong with improving upon a strength area, like our rotation, especially if you don't view Bello as a great playoff caliber #3 SP'er, but am from the school of thought that it is better to improve the team by addressing your weakest links by trying to bring them to the norm or better.

To me, our #1 weak area is the lack of a big bat, hopefully with power and the ability to hit LHPs well.

We also need a 3Bman (2B, if we play Mayer at 3B.) We could try to fill both needs with one guy. Once could argue Bregman & Bichette don't give us the power we need, but either would net a big plus over what we have now. (It might just keep us even with 2025, but hopefully Contreras and better pitching makes up for other losses.)

[Kimmi]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Well, do you believe in his first month of production and that he dropped off due to in season injury? How do you feel about his winter ball results? What about him putting on a lot of good weight this offseason? 

I can't convince myself yet either. 

I believe in KC, offensively, at least.  I think he can even become a pretty decent defender.  I'd even be willing to try him at 2nd base again.  Put him at one position and leave him there.  Bat him in the #8 or #9 hole and leave him there.  

Last year, after having a little bit of success early in the season, I think the Red Sox put way too much responsibility and way too many expectations on him.  IMO, the pressure got to him. 

#Kristian Campbell bandwagon