Red Sox (Early) vs Yankees (Schlittler): 10/2/25, 8:08pm

[d-money]

Duran 1 for 11 for a 0.91 batting average.

[Tedballgame]

10 minutes ago, notin said:

But Hudson had already thrown up his stop sign!!! When Hudson was stopping him, Chisholm still had the ball! At that point, he didn’t know Chisholm was going to throw or just hold on for a second.  If Chisholm doesn’t try for Yoshida - hardly uncommon on that type of play - Eaton is DEAD at the plate. 

 

Hudson didnt have the luxury you have had of reviewing that replay multiple times to make a decision.  He had a second, msybe less.  And when he made it, he had no way of knowing what Chisholm was going to do.  With Story coming up, I get why he held him and say it was the smart move…
 

I say it was a stupid move because he would have scored no matter what. Hudson was chicken or dumb not to send him.

[illinoisredsox]

2 minutes ago, d-money said:

Duran 1 for 11 for a 0.91 batting average.

0.91 is a hell of a batting average.

I think you meant .092 (or .09191919191… to be exact).

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Also, big thanks to the AL for being weak this season.

Every team was flawed, and the AL was wide open for the taking. The Red Sox lost out on a golden opportunity.

[Nineintime]

13 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Right now the Sox have one good pitcher. How dense are you?

The incompetence of your argument is demonstrated by your reliance on insults.  Sophmoric tactics.  Try facts 

[Nineintime]

1 minute ago, Old Red said:

Every team was flawed, and the AL was wide open for the taking. The Red Sox lost out on a golden opportunity.

Breslow ignored team needs at the deadline.  Fine lines win and he refused to address any of them. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 minute ago, Nineintime said:

The incompetence of your argument is demonstrated by your reliance on insults.  Sophmoric tactics.  Try facts 

Let me correct that. Right now the Sox have one good starting pitcher.

[Old Red]

7 minutes ago, Nineintime said:

Breslow ignored team needs at the deadline.  Fine lines win and he refused to address any of them. 

I can understand not going all in at the deadline, but the Red Sox didn’t even go half way, and once again the AL was more wide open than I can remember.

[notin]

23 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

To be fair, Early was decent enough tonight.  He was let down by some less than stellar defense, some lucky placed hits and had the misfortune of facing a guy at the absolute top of his game.

He’s never going to be a top of the rotation guy but he can be a solid #3.  If I had to give a comparison, Bill Lee comes to mind (Early throws harder, but the other stuff is similar).

Earl Lee?

[illinoisredsox]

5 minutes ago, Nineintime said:

Breslow ignored team needs at the deadline.  Fine lines win and he refused to address any of them. 

Neither you nor anyone else here has any idea who was pursued and even less of an idea of what were the asking prices.  Another starter was indicated, but I’m hard pressed to recall anyone resembling a front line starter being dealt at the deadline at all, indicating the asking prices were astronomical.

There will be moves in the offseason via trade.  Assuming Cheapo Henry will allow it, there’s money to spend as well.

[illinoisredsox]

1 minute ago, notin said:

Earl Lee?

Great pun.

[notin]

9 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Let me correct that. Right now the Sox have one good starting pitcher.

The Sox have ten starting pitchers on their 40 man roster (counting injured folks) and won 89 games this year.  But only one of them is any good?

[notin]

Just now, illinoisredsox said:

Great pun.

It’s one of my limited skills…

[vegasbob]

21 minutes ago, Tedballgame said:

He pitched like a #2 for a month or so but I agree, he is more of a #3 or #4.

#4 after Brez adds two legit starters 

[notin]

1 minute ago, illinoisredsox said:

Neither you nor anyone else here has any idea who was pursued and even less of an idea of what were the asking prices.  Another starter was indicated, but I’m hard pressed to recall anyone resembling a front line starter being dealt at the deadline at all, indicating the asking prices were astronomical.

There will be moves in the offseason via trade.  Assuming Cheapo Henry will allow it, there’s money to spend as well.

MVP mentioned the rumored names for Joe Ryan (who incidentally sucked after the deadline).  If he is right, they were astronomical…

[notin]

3 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

Neither you nor anyone else here has any idea who was pursued and even less of an idea of what were the asking prices.  Another starter was indicated, but I’m hard pressed to recall anyone resembling a front line starter being dealt at the deadline at all, indicating the asking prices were astronomical.

There will be moves in the offseason via trade.  Assuming Cheapo Henry will allow it, there’s money to spend as well.

I didn’t expect much last offseason.  And for a while it looked like just Crochet and Chapman.  
 

But they did go big on Bregman…

[notin]

2 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

#4 after Brez adds two legit starters 

I’m taking the under…

[notin]

3 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

#4 after Brez adds two legit starters 

Think the Sox spring for any of Dylan Cease, Zac Gallen, Ranger Suarez, Michael King, or Framber Valdez? To me, those are the big free agent names.

Of course the Sox do have some serious trade resources as well…

[vegasbob]

Just now, notin said:

Think the Sox spring for any of Dylan Cease, Zac Gallen, Ranger Suarez, Michael King, or Framber Valdez? To me, those are the big free agent names.

Of course the Sox do have some serious trade resources as well…

Not Valdez. never!!

[illinoisredsox]

1 minute ago, notin said:

Think the Sox spring for any of Dylan Cease, Zac Gallen, Ranger Suarez, Michael King, or Framber Valdez? To me, those are the big free agent names.

Of course the Sox do have some serious trade resources as well…

No on King; way too much Yankee stench on him.

[notin]

1 minute ago, vegasbob said:

Not Valdez. never!!

I’m fine with that.  I’ve already thrown my good name behind one whiny bitch for next year.  I can’t back them all…

[notin]

27 minutes ago, Tedballgame said:

I say it was a stupid move because he would have scored no matter what. Hudson was chicken or dumb not to send him.

If, say, Wong was coming up, maybe.  
 

But if he sends Eaton and the Yankees don’t throw it around, Eaton is dead at the plate.  This isn’t the heavily fictionalized ending of Major League where Willy Mays Hays runs somewhere close to 45 mph.  Thats faster than Usain Bolt on NOS…

[notin]

8 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

No on King; way too much Yankee stench on him.

Two down.  Three to go.

I think the trade route is more likely. As I mentioned before, the Sox already have 10 starting pitchers lined up for the 40 man roster.  Thats already a lot.  But since most of them make little to no money, I could see a trade.  Package one or two from Tolle, Early, Harrison, Fitts and Perales for an upgrade?

 

Or maybe one of them plus the Password?

[moonslav59]

So, if the Sox have just one good pitcher...

First, Crochet or Chapman are not good.

Second, the deadline didn't matter, anyway, because we weren't trading for 12 pitchers.

Third, how about or offense?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

16 minutes ago, notin said:

The Sox have ten starting pitchers on their 40 man roster (counting injured folks) and won 89 games this year.  But only one of them is any good?

I was referring to these PO's. In these PO's the Sox had one good starter. Is that clear enough?

[moonslav59]

My guess is we seek shorter term contracts like Merrill Kelly, and then we trade an OF'er for another SP'er like Keller, Alcantara, Pablo Lopez, Luis Castillo or Sonny Gray. No huge contracts. No long term deals to pitchers.

The big signing will be a bat- maybe Alonso, Suarez or Schwarber for 1B. Maybe we trade 2 OF'ers and sign Tucker.

We might bring Bregman back or trade for Marte- maybe sign Torres, instead.

Lots of moving parts.

We have some foundational pieces, some low contracts, some logjams and some high need areas, but I think 3-4 major additions and we can be much improved.

[moonslav59]

43 minutes ago, d-money said:

Last night’s game was winnable. Just didn’t hit period. 

Yup. We ran up against a buzzsaw, tonight.

Well, we did learn our weaknesses, and at least it's not a half dozen of them.

Make a few deals and just cut down on the major injuries.

[FredLynn]

42 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Every team was flawed, and the AL was wide open for the taking. The Red Sox lost out on a golden opportunity.

Yup

That’s why I was on Breslows case so hard. Get a couple of useful pieces and we could have been the favorites in the AL. 

[harmony]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

My guess is we seek shorter term contracts like Merrill Kelly, and then we trade an OF'er for another SP'er like Keller, Alcantara, Pablo Lopez, Luis Castillo or Sonny Gray. No huge contracts. No long term deals to pitchers.

The prospective 2026 Seattle outfield is already crowded with All Stars Julio Rodriguez and Randy Arozarena flanked by Victor Robles, Dominic Canzone and Luke Raley.

[oldtimer]

We faced a young pitcher with top velocity and good movement. The Yankees will have 5 terriffic starters next season. Meanwhile, we have guys taking home run cuts and finding jusr air. Yoshida showed the way by hitting flares. Story hit decently but Duran, Rafaeloa (the spitter) and even Abreu were clueless. Rafaela couldn't even bunt when asked. I mentioned those three specifically, because they are likely to be  on the team next season. We should tthink hard about who we retain and  who we trade next season, as established players are unlikely to change greatly. More on that on a link reserved for those thoughts. Good season but with the expected ending.