Guardians (Cantillo) vs Red Sox (Bernardino): 9/3/25, 6:45pm

[moonslav59]

Looks like one of those rare series, where we win the series but get outscored or tie in runs scored.

[Nineintime]

What has happened to Bregman?? He’s fallen off a cliff

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

10 minutes ago, Nineintime said:

What has happened to Bregman?? He’s fallen off a cliff

He's a .275 lifetime hitter and that's where he'll probably end up at season's end.

[d-money]

This team will be looking at that second wildcard. Yankees just more consistent despite us owning them this season. 

[Jasonbay44]

Just got home and can’t believe Jordan Hicks got rocked again. He’s usually so damn good and reliable! 

[Deja Doh]

How is Hicks still on a major league roster?  How much data do you need?  

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Duran just made the score 1-0 in favor of the Sox.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

13 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Just got home and can’t believe Jordan Hicks got rocked again. He’s usually so damn good and reliable! 

He had an off night..

[Nick]

Just because we pay Yoshida $18M, why play him?

Just because we will pay Hicks $24M over next two years, why do we pitch him when he is struggling right now?

Why don't we play to win.

Cora overthought this game. A bullpen game requires every pitcher to pitch well. We found out today what many suspected. Maybe we're solid 7-9, but we can't string together 7 relievers.

 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

9 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

He had an off night..

I meant to say he had an often night.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

On the plus side Kelly looked good tonight.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Leading MLB in both errors and injuries the Sox are bucking the odds being in PO contention.

[d-money]

1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Leading MLB in both errors and injuries the Sox are bucking the odds being in PO contention.

This team should make the playoffs over the Yankees or any other team but unfortunately picked a bad time to have injuries. 

[Nick]

16 minutes ago, Nick said:

Just because we pay Yoshida $18M, why play him?

Just because we will pay Hicks $24M over next two years, why do we pitch him when he is struggling right now?

Why don't we play to win.

Cora overthought this game. A bullpen game requires every pitcher to pitch well. We found out today what many suspected. Maybe we're solid 7-9, but we can't string together 7 relievers.

 

We need a fifth starter. Quit pussyfooting around. Should have brought up Harrison. Isn't it better to know about Harrison on 9/3 than waiting another 5 days? STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Your Ivy League analytics were worthless on this issue.

 

[Maxbialystock]

Lousy score, 8-1, against a lefty starter against whom the Sox had plenty of righty bats. Can't blame that on the absence of Anthony and Abreu.

I would say the bullpen stunk, but only for the first 2 innings. After Bernardino, Hicks especially, and Matz stunk it up, Kelly and May combined for 7 IP and 1 ER.  Kelly pitched well.  May was lucky as the dickens.  

Up ahead, 6 road games at Arizona and Oakland.  I think the Sox need to take at least 4 of the 6, but could not be more worried about both the hitting and the pitching.  Cleveland, ranked near the bottom of MLB in both team OPS and runs scored 19 runs in 3 games, including 7 against our ace, Crochet.

Meanwhile, 3 of our best hitters--Bregman, Anthony, and Abreu--are either MIA or on the casualty list.  

[Maxbialystock]

47 minutes ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Just got home and can’t believe Jordan Hicks got rocked again. He’s usually so damn good and reliable! 

😁

[Nick]

Opponents have batted .321 against him l;(Jordan Hicks). He’s given up 20 runs (17 earned runs), 25 hits and 12 walks while striking out 15 in 18 ⅔ innings.

What's there to analyze?

[illinoisredsox]

19 minutes ago, Nick said:

We need a fifth starter. Quit pussyfooting around. Should have brought up Harrison. Isn't it better to know about Harrison on 9/3 than waiting another 5 days? STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Your Ivy League analytics were worthless on this issue.

 

There are reports of a possible ankle injury and an MRI today.  If true, maybe not so stupid?

You know, there is the possibility that the Sox brass has a little more knowledge on player availability than we do.

[Maxbialystock]

12 minutes ago, Nick said:

We need a fifth starter. Quit pussyfooting around. Should have brought up Harrison. Isn't it better to know about Harrison on 9/3 than waiting another 5 days? STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

Your Ivy League analytics were worthless on this issue.

 

Those pitching analytics don't come from the freaking Ivy League.  They come from graduating from Yale with a degree in molecular biophysics and biochemistry, which demonstrated a pretty good brain, and then learning the MLB pitching trade first hand for 10 years, followed by an "executive apprenticeship" with the Cubs for 5 years.  

You want a 5th starter?  The Sox have already been through eight (8):  Houck, Dobbins, Fitts, Criswell, Crawford (who never started but started 33 freaking games last year), Buehler, Newcomb, and May.   That leaves the current rotation of Crochet, Bello, Giolito, Tolle, and possibly May or a bullpen game like tonight,

Maybe Harrison can help, but whatever is done I trust the combined judgments of Cora and Breslow and not yours.  

 

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, Jasonbay44 said:

Just got home and can’t believe Jordan Hicks got rocked again. He’s usually so damn good and reliable! 

Yes

He’s reliable and consistent 

[Randy Red Sox]

3 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

He’s should only be used in spots where you would use a position player.

if Hicks is on the PS roster I won't be watching. I said from the day of the trade he stinks after watching him pitch for the Jays last year. It is painfully obvious that the Devers trade was NOTHING MORE thaN DUMPING A BAD ATTITUDE AND PAYROLL SAVINGS.  Sox are desperate for a 5th SP even after calling up Tolle yet Harrison is not even a Sept 1 call-up. Pretty much says it all.

 

[Randy Red Sox]

40 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

There are reports of a possible ankle injury and an MRI today.  If true, maybe not so stupid?

You know, there is the possibility that the Sox brass has a little more knowledge on player availability than we do.

and likely they found out Harrison is not as good as they thought he was.

[Randy Red Sox]

51 minutes ago, Nick said:

Opponents have batted .321 against him l;(Jordan Hicks). He’s given up 20 runs (17 earned runs), 25 hits and 12 walks while striking out 15 in 18 ⅔ innings.

What's there to analyze?

i said he stunk the day they got him.

[Randy Red Sox]

1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

On the plus side Kelly looked good tonight.

Kelley is not the answer either.  Another AAAA  reliever with the odd decent outing.

[Duran Is The Man]

4 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Cora has a lot on his mind. He's putting a plan together to kill Hicks and make it look like an accident.

i've got ideas if he needs any.

[Duran Is The Man]

2 hours ago, Nick said:

Opponents have batted .321 against him l;(Jordan Hicks). He’s given up 20 runs (17 earned runs), 25 hits and 12 walks while striking out 15 in 18 ⅔ innings.

What's there to analyze?

why these idiots took him in the Devers trade. i get they were ready to dump Devers and his salary but iin return, they took on this loser and his stupid salary. Hicks would have been DFA'd already if he weren't making $12.5M/ year. the entire trade was just f***ing stupid.

[Nick]

9 hours ago, Maxbialystock said:

Those pitching analytics don't come from the freaking Ivy League.  They come from graduating from Yale with a degree in molecular biophysics and biochemistry, which demonstrated a pretty good brain, and then learning the MLB pitching trade first hand for 10 years, followed by an "executive apprenticeship" with the Cubs for 5 years.  

You want a 5th starter?  The Sox have already been through eight (8):  Houck, Dobbins, Fitts, Criswell, Crawford (who never started but started 33 freaking games last year), Buehler, Newcomb, and May.   That leaves the current rotation of Crochet, Bello, Giolito, Tolle, and possibly May or a bullpen game like tonight,

Maybe Harrison can help, but whatever is done I trust the combined judgments of Cora and Breslow and not yours.  

 

Well, I couldn't done any worse today.........AND YOU ARE ASININE TO THINK I WOULD EVER BE 1% OF BRES AND CORA.

THIS IS A FAN BOARD. YOU SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT'S A PLACE TO BLOW OFF. DIDN'T I ASK YOU TO PUT ME ON IGNORE?

[mvp 78]

You know, sometimes these games can really be frustrating. I'm just glad they brought in Hicks so early on that I knew I could turn the game off and find something else to do with my evening. Thank you, Cora! #blessed

[moonslav59]

12 hours ago, d-money said:

This team will be looking at that second wildcard. Yankees just more consistent despite us owning them this season. 

The Yanks have turned it around, after a long 57 game stretch of bad play.  (25-32)

It was nice seeing DWilliams blow another game, last night. The Yanks had won 8 out of 9 and 15 out of 20, beforehand.

[moonslav59]

If we are so hell-bent on keeping Hicks until 2026, can we find a reason to put him on the IL?