Rockies (Gomber) vs Red Sox (Fitts): 7/7/25, 7:10pm

[mvp 78]

28 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Plus MLB pitchers have a ton of data and video at their disposal.  Fred's 'wait till pitchers learn they don't have to throw him a strike' take is pretty amusing. 😀

His HR was a 93 mph meatball right down the middle and sitting on a tee. As I posted yesterday, he's not missing those. 

[Bellhorn04]

2 hours ago, cp176 said:

Got to admit that I do like Eaton but not playing Mayer against both righties and lefties is just silly.  We need his defense and given half a real chance , he’ll hit lefties.  Eaton would become my new Hamilton.

 

Mayer isn't even hitting righties that well.  He's done nothing to suggest Cora is holding him back.

[cp176]

1 minute ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Mayer isn't even hitting righties that well.  He's done nothing to suggest Cora is holding him back.

I think his defense alone should give him a very long leash.  Pretty sure that he will hit.  I’m not sure anyone is holding him back, I just like seeing him on the field as opposed to the dugout.

[Bellhorn04]

3 minutes ago, cp176 said:

I think his defense alone should give him a very long leash.  Pretty sure that he will hit.  I’m not sure anyone is holding him back, I just like seeing him on the field as opposed to the dugout.

He's hitting 214 with a dreadful 257 OBP.  He's struggling with the bat big time.  Cora is easing him in.  Cora knows what he's doing.

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

He's hitting 214 with a dreadful 257 OBP.  He's struggling with the bat big time.  Cora is easing him in.  Cora knows what he's doing.

I heard that he was a little banged up? Maybe I'm just misremembering. 

[Bellhorn04]

14 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

His HR was a 93 mph meatball right down the middle and sitting on a tee. As I posted yesterday, he's not missing those. 

3.4 bWAR.  He's having a tremendous season.

[Bellhorn04]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

I heard that he was a little banged up? Maybe I'm just misremembering. 

The thing about Mayer is he looks good even when he's not playing good.  That's what these old timers are falling for.

I'm joking, but these complaints about Cora not playing him enough are a tad overblown.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

3.4 bWAR.  He's having a tremendous season.

If it's in the middle of the plate, it's going over the fence. No harm in saying that. 🫠

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The thing about Mayer is he looks good even when he's not playing good.  That's what these old timers are falling for.

I'm joking, but these complaints about Cora not playing him enough are a tad overblown.

People just want to see Mayer and Anthony every game. I get it. They are the future, not the Nate Eatons of the world. 

[Bellhorn04]

10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

People just want to see Mayer and Anthony every game. I get it. They are the future, not the Nate Eatons of the world. 

I get that too, but Cora is also trying to win games and there's no guarantee Mayer is going to hit this year.  Mayer is getting his chances, Cora is trying to get him most of his chances against righties.  They eased Anthony in a bit too.  It's good management IMHO.   

[cp176]

21 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

The thing about Mayer is he looks good even when he's not playing good.  That's what these old timers are falling for.

I'm joking, but these complaints about Cora not playing him enough are a tad overblown.

hey guess I’ll just have to continue to believe that Cora is an average manager.  Playing anyone at third other than Mayer while Bregman rehabs just seems silly .  Just my opinion.  Now before this turns into me being another one who wants Cora, gone, let it be proclaimed that I am not.  On one of the poorest defensive teams in all of baseball, Mayer gives you just a little bit of security in the infield.

[cp176]

24 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

People just want to see Mayer and Anthony every game. I get it. They are the future, not the Nate Eatons of the world. 

I just want to see the best players on the field.  

[dgalehouse]

The Rockies are an absolutely awful team. An embarrassment to MLB, if that is still possible after all the other embarrassments they have had in recent years. 

[Soxlover]

3 hours ago, Dynasty Prospects Anon said:

With the return of Bregman coming very soon, Eaton will likely go down to Worcester… but I hope Hamilton does instead 

I think Breslow will agree.

[Soxlover]

Like all managers, Cora is judged in hindsight, but it seems like playing Eaton, recently worked pretty well.

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I get that too, but Cora is also trying to win games and there's no guarantee Mayer is going to hit this year.  Mayer is getting his chances, Cora is trying to get him most of his chances against righties.  They eased Anthony in a bit too.  It's good management IMHO.   

Did you like the part where Nate Eaton missed that tag at 3b? Good play I guess? 

[mvp 78]

19 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Like all managers, Cora is judged in hindsight, but it seems like playing Eaton, recently worked pretty well.

0.0 bWAR

He could put anyone out there I guess if we're just posting WAR now for argument's sake. 

[Soxlover]

52 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

0.0 bWAR

He could put anyone out there I guess if we're just posting WAR now for argument's sake. 

In the last week?

I said recently as those who bash Cora love to use small sample sizes like even 1 PA.

[Soxlover]

55 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Did you like the part where Nate Eaton missed that tag at 3b? Good play I guess? 

Yup, the one play sample size once again.

i like the way he got some key hits over the week, and if we judge by hindsight, I think the choice to play Eaton worked fine, recently only. 

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

Yup, the one play sample size once again.

i like the way he got some key hits over the week, and if we judge by hindsight, I think the choice to play Eaton worked fine, recently only. 

He's a replacement level player that won't be around very long. In a few years we'll be like "remember that guy?" 

[Soxlover]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

He's a replacement level player that won't be around very long. In a few years we'll be like "remember that guy?" 

I’d demote him today and not blink an eye. You missed my whole point.

if Eaton had sucked this last week it would be on Cora, and it wouldn’t just be hindsight based.

posters here live hindsight. The fact that Eaton did well over the last week is lost on the hindsight poster, or they chalk it up to luck, maybe.

cora did something I would not have done and it worked, but where are the Cora hindsight bashers on this call?

that’s my point. I’m not saying Eaton is worth playing unless it’s him vs DHam.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, Soxlover said:

I’d demote him today and not blink an eye. You missed my whole point.

if Eaton had sucked this last week it would be on Cora, and it wouldn’t just be hindsight based.

posters here live hindsight. The fact that Eaton did well over the last week is lost on the hindsight poster, or they chalk it up to luck, maybe.

cora did something I would not have done and it worked, but where are the Cora hindsight bashers on this call?

that’s my point. I’m not saying Eaton is worth playing unless it’s him vs DHam.

It worked? I mean, I guess? He didn't have any monster games or anything. 3-11, 2 2b's, 5 K, 0 BB. You could have had Marcelo play for Eaton, go 0-11 and the Sox win each game. 

[Soxlover]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It worked? I mean, I guess? He didn't have any monster games or anything. 3-11, 2 2b's, 5 K, 0 BB. You could have had Marcelo play for Eaton, go 0-11 and the Sox win each game. 

We’re talking tiny sample size, here. He’s started 3    Games in the last week and did pretty well. 
im not drawing conclusions from this- just pointing out it looks like the choices worked out well, in hindsight. 
the other 2 games he played were as a PR and late game replacement.

id you think 3 for 11 or 3 for 10 in the 3 starts with two 2Bs and 2 SBs is a bad choice, so be it. I don’t, in hindsight.

i would have started Mayer and want Mayer over Eaton going forward.

[mvp 78]

30 minutes ago, Soxlover said:

id you think 3 for 11 or 3 for 10 in the 3 starts

It was 3-11 in the 3 starts. No need to try to correct me just to get it wrong. 😑

[Soxlover]

28 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

It was 3-11 in the 3 starts. No need to try to correct me just to get it wrong. 😑

3 for 10 in 11 PAs, according to B-R, to he who is never wrong.

[drewski6]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Did you like the part where Nate Eaton missed that tag at 3b? Good play I guess? 

Well, Eaton does lead to poopin

[FredLynn]

8 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

His HR was a 93 mph meatball right down the middle and sitting on a tee. As I posted yesterday, he's not missing those. 

No, but he's missing almost everything else.

[FredLynn]

9 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Plus MLB pitchers have a ton of data and video at their disposal.  Fred's 'wait till pitchers learn they don't have to throw him a strike' take is pretty amusing. 😀

Like most MLB hitters when they are served a meatball right down the middle even Rafaela can hit it. But unlike most hitters he has absolutely no idea about the K zone. Watching him swing at balls a foot outside is getting old. Its going to cause him to drift down to his level as a hitter, which has been BELOW AVERAGE for his career. By the end of the year he'll get there.

[Soxlover]

2 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Like most MLB hitters when they are served a meatball right down the middle even Rafaela can hit it. But unlike most hitters he has absolutely no idea about the K zone. Watching him swing at balls a foot outside is getting old. Its going to cause him to drift down to his level as a hitter, which has been BELOW AVERAGE for his career. By the end of the year he'll get there.

His K% went from 32 to 26 to under 19. His BB% went from 2.9 from 23-24 to 4.6 this year.

This cannot be all about pitchers not having “the book” on him yet.

[Hitch]

As with most discussions in baseball, I think we're too early into knowing what we have. I don't know why people get so sure of their opinions on this stuff. Nobody knows, just chill out a bit. 

He's improved, he's doing great, let's see if he can carry it on or if this is more of an outlier. Way too early to know either way.