Mets (Megill) vs Red Sox (Crochet): 5/21/25, 6:45pm

[Brandon Glick]

I don't know how to explain this in words, but doesn't it feel like the Red Sox are the Adrian Gonzalez of .500 teams? Comparatively, the Braves are the David Ortiz of .500 teams and the Reds are the Steve Pearce of .500 teams. Does that make sense?

[Nick]

Can Chapman go 3 straight games? He threw 7 pitches on Monday and 6 pitches last night.

[Bellhorn04]

6 minutes ago, Nick said:

Can Chapman go 3 straight games? He threw 7 pitches on Monday and 6 pitches last night.

Cora may have little choice.  The concern would be that the third time's not a charm and he has to throw 20 pitches or whatever this time.  Something to watch for sure. 

[Bellhorn04]

1 hour ago, Brandon Glick said:

I don't know how to explain this in words, but doesn't it feel like the Red Sox are the Adrian Gonzalez of .500 teams? Comparatively, the Braves are the David Ortiz of .500 teams and the Reds are the Steve Pearce of .500 teams. Does that make sense?

The Red Sox are the reigning Even Stevens of MLB right now.  They've been phenomenal at it since 2022.

[Nick]

Team's won-lost record by starters. I always liked looking at this. I can't remember what year it was but a starter received inordinate amount of run support and the team won all the time. Can't remember who it was.

6-4 Crochet

6-1 Buehler

4-2 Bello

3-3 Dobbins

2-2 Giolito

2-3 Newcomb

2-7 Houck

It would be interesting to see blown saves into this table.

 

[Bellhorn04]

4 minutes ago, Nick said:

Team's won-lost record by starters. I always liked looking at this. I can't remember what year it was but a starter received inordinate amount of run support and the team won all the time. Can't remember who it was.

6-4 Crochet

6-1 Buehler

4-2 Bello

3-3 Dobbins

2-2 Giolito

2-3 Newcomb

2-7 Houck

 

You're probably thinking of E-Rod.  He had the Run Support Rabbit Paw for a while there.

Bello is the current guy who's had the Rabbit Paw the most. 

[mvp 78]

22 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Cora may have little choice.  The concern would be that the third time's not a charm and he has to throw 20 pitches or whatever this time.  Something to watch for sure. 

The following guys are coming off back to backs: 

Chapman

Wilson

Weissert

Slaten

 

Hendriks is the only reliever that didn't pitch last night not named Newcomb (who threw 79 on Sunday). So tonight is night two of Whitlock (uh oh), Hendriks and either Chapman or Slaten for the third time. Need Crochet to go long. 

[mvp 78]

Today's Red Sox Birthdays:

Mace Brown

Andrew Miller

Hank Johnson

Bryce Florie

Sam Langford

[vegasbob]

If the Sox ever had a chance to sweep a team, any team, tonight would be the one with Crochet going against a slumping team.  Imagine scoring 2 runs in 2 games at  Fenway with the incredible Mr. Soto on your team. 

But the history with Garrett is that the Run Support  Bunny is in hiding  for him.

[vegasbob]

In case anyone was wondering ( crickets) if Zack Kelly was finding his groove at WooSox,  think again.

Zack , on his way to a DFA,  is sporting an 11.42 ERA with a 2.54 WHIP, and more walks than K's (14/11) .

Burdi is the "Man" at WooSox and should be back in Boston before long when an extra arm is needed.  He did give up an HR in his 2.1 innings in Boston last week.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

In case anyone was wondering ( crickets) if Zack Kelly was finding his groove at WooSox,  think again.

Zack , on his way to a DFA,  is sporting an 11.42 ERA with a 2.54 WHIP, and more walks than K's (14/11) .

Burdi is the "Man" at WooSox and should be back in Boston before long when an extra arm is needed.  He did give up an HR in his 2.1 innings in Boston last week.

If you ignore Kelly's 4/27 appearance:

3.25 ERA, 10 BB, 4 H, 11 K, 0 HR, 1.69 WHIP

I'm not so sure they'll DFA him just yet. 

[vegasbob]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

If you ignore Kelly's 4/27 appearance:

3.25 ERA, 10 BB, 4 H, 11 K, 0 HR, 1.69 WHIP

I'm not so sure they'll DFA him just yet. 

i only said his performance at WooSox after Boston puts him on the DFA pathway.  More likely they would use his MLB experience to give him some throw in value in a later trade deal.     

Or he could relearn to pitch effectively and make himself some money.

[Maxbialystock]

2 hours ago, Nick said:

Team's won-lost record by starters. I always liked looking at this. I can't remember what year it was but a starter received inordinate amount of run support and the team won all the time. Can't remember who it was.

6-4 Crochet

6-1 Buehler

4-2 Bello

3-3 Dobbins

2-2 Giolito

2-3 Newcomb

2-7 Houck

It would be interesting to see blown saves into this table.

 

Right off the top we can be sure Crochet got screwed by the bullpen, who then turned around and gave some of his wins to Ferris's son, who didn't deserve them.   Looks like Bello got lucky too.  Houck got what he deserved, and so did Dobbins.  Giolito, Mr Box of Chocolates, has 2 quality starts to go with 12 runs in 7.2 innings in the other two starts.

 

[Nick]

As shine for Campbell has worn off a bit, we are saved by our rookie catcher. He now has the second best OPS with catchers with 100+ at bats in AL, .812.

He's only second to the Seattle catcher Cal Raleigh. Interesting that they share a same birthday, 11/26 two years apart.

His development has been fun to watch.

Narvaez, Campbell, Rafaela, Abreu, Mayer and Anthony.  Our future.

Throw in Devers, Bregman and Duran, we should score runs. 

[mvp 78]

22 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

i only said his performance at WooSox after Boston puts him on the DFA pathway.  More likely they would use his MLB experience to give him some throw in value in a later trade deal.     

Or he could relearn to pitch effectively and make himself some money.

I was only talking about his WOO performance.

[Maxbialystock]

2 hours ago, vegasbob said:

If the Sox ever had a chance to sweep a team, any team, tonight would be the one with Crochet going against a slumping team.  Imagine scoring 2 runs in 2 games at  Fenway with the incredible Mr. Soto on your team. 

But the history with Garrett is that the Run Support  Bunny is in hiding  for him.

Rafaela has a higher WAR than Soto.  

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, Nick said:

As shine for Campbell has worn off a bit, we are saved by our rookie catcher. He now has the second best OPS with catchers with 100+ at bats in AL.

He's only second to the Seattle catcher Cal Raleigh. Interesting that they share a same birthday, 11/26 two years apart.

His development has been fun to watch.

Campbell is still hitting the ball really hard. Think he's been a bit unlucky recently. 

[mvp 78]

 

[Nick]

30 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

 

So our rotation now is Crochet-Giolito-Bello-Dobbins-Buehler.

Is Fitts coming back soon?

[Nick]

Here's list of Baseball Prospects' top hitting prospects. They were all All-Stars, some having immediate success. Notice Anthony has far more AAA PA than many on this list.

I love what Brez has done but quit the BS about he is still 'learning'. 

Remember, Anthony's AAA manager said he has NOTHING more to learn at the AAA level.

If I'm the owner, I would tell him to promote Anthony or go find another job.

 

[Old Red]

41 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Campbell is still hitting the ball really hard. Think he's been a bit unlucky recently. 

You mean when he hits the ball? 0-15 in  his last 15 AB with 6 K’s, and 4-50 in May with 16K’s.  The luster has worn off, which isn’t surprising. 

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 minute ago, Old Red said:

You mean when he hits the ball? 0-15 in  his last 15 AB with 6 K’s, and 4-50 in May with 16K’s.  The luster has worn off, which isn’t surprising. 

 

Almost all rookies go through growing pains, pitchers' books on their weaknesses, and adjustments. If the Sox believe in Campbell's talents, they'll let him work through it -- like all teams do with young players in bridge years.

And the sooner they allow Anthony and Mayer to do the same at the big league level, the sooner one or two or three of these guys can become part of the core of the next good Boston contender, whether that's next year or the year after or the one after that...

[mvp 78]

15 minutes ago, Nick said:

So our rotation now is Crochet-Giolito-Bello-Dobbins-Buehler.

Is Fitts coming back soon?

Maybe? IDK

[mvp 78]

9 minutes ago, Old Red said:

You mean when he hits the ball? 0-15 in  his last 15 AB with 6 K’s, and 4-50 in May with 16K’s.  The luster has worn off, which isn’t surprising. 

 

I mean, if you're worried only about a 4 game sample, I don't know how you get through 162. 

[Old Red]

3 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Almost all rookies go through growing pains, pitchers' books on their weaknesses, and adjustments. If the Sox believe in Campbell's talents, they'll let him work through it -- like all teams do with young players in bridge years.

And the sooner they allow Anthony and Mayer to do the same at the big league level, the sooner one or two or three of these guys can become part of the core of the next good Boston contender, whether that's next year or the year after or the one after that...

I agree, but the luster has worn off, and he didn’t even have his first 50 AB, before the raves had started on him. It goes both ways. How he ends up will TBD.

[Old Red]

9 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I mean, if you're worried only about a 4 game sample, I don't know how you get through 162. 

#1 I’m not worried at all, and I wasn’t the one who mentioned the luster had worn off in the first place. You mentioned his last 15 AB, but you failed to mention his last 50, which covers a longer time period. Sounds a little Suspect.🤫

[mvp 78]

I didn't mention 15 AB, that's was you, buddy. It also doesn't change my argument as I still feel like he's been unlucky (091 BABIP in the 51 PA's you are talking about). 

[Old Red]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

I didn't mention 15 AB, that's was you, buddy. It also doesn't change my argument as I still feel like he's been unlucky (091 BABIP in the 51 PA's you are talking about). 

You mentioned the last 4 games. Last 15 AB is pretty much the same thing. Kind of nit, and picking to me on a sensitive subject like a Suspect.

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, Old Red said:

You mentioned the last 4 games. Last 15 AB is pretty much the same thing. Kind of nit, and picking to me on a sensitive subject like a Suspect.

I wrote last 4 games, because I was commenting on your 15 AB sample which was 4 games???????????? 

I think the wrong person is picking nits atm. 😔

[notin]

47 minutes ago, Nick said:

Here's list of Baseball Prospects' top hitting prospects. They were all All-Stars, some having immediate success. Notice Anthony has far more AAA PA than many on this list.

I love what Brez has done but quit the BS about he is still 'learning'. 

Remember, Anthony's AAA manager said he has NOTHING more to learn at the AAA level.

If I'm the owner, I would tell him to promote Anthony or go find another job.

 

Is Breslow actually saying that?

It seems like the biggest reason Anthony is not being called up is the Sox do not need an OF.  They need a 1B, and he has never played there plus he possesses strong defensive skills in the OF.  Maybe he could be called up to play DH, but the current DH refuses to go back into the field.

Unless the Sox bench Rafaela, which would be a bad move considering how well he is actully playing, where is Anthony going to play?  Going to bench Duran or Abreu?