Red Sox: Off Season 2024-2025

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

A Cy Young winner would help, for sure.

Mind you these Sox are doing their utmost to make even the loss of one a non-factor as far as making or missing the playoffs.

 

If a butterfly farts in China...

Knowing our luck, Sale would have stumbled on a pebble on Fenway's mound and missed 25 starts.

[a700hitter]

Stop!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

If a butterfly farts in China...

Knowing our luck, Sale would have stumbled on a pebble on Fenway's mound and missed 25 starts.

"We all just have to be better at our jobs," said Fenway's head groundskeeper.

"We had some interest in hiring a top geologist to take care of the pebble problem... but such a move had to make sense.

"Instead we've pivoted to one of those used landscaper suck-trucks we found on eBay -- with the big vacuum hose for clearing leaf piles off lawns in the Fall...

"... it's in the shop right now, but we're told it should be ready by next trade deadline... after a sufficient rehab assignment at a pickleball court."

[notin]

6 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

There is no way Mayer is winning the job out of ST without playing AAA. At the very least, they are super two-ing him. C'mon man!

Or he’ll be gone.

 

Marcelo Mayer and Wilyer Abreu (total - 94.1) for Tarik Skubal (95.1)

 

Thats actually a good haul for Detroit, although they may insist on a pitcher.  If necessary, iI’d add one in - almost any one…

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, notin said:

Or he’ll be gone.

 

Marcelo Mayer and Wilyer Abreu (total - 94.1) for Tarik Skubal (95.1)

 

Thats actually a good haul for Detroit, although they may insist on a pitcher.  If necessary, iI’d add one in - almost any one…

Give them Fitts and Wikelman. 

[notin]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Give them Fitts and Wikelman. 

Either Fitts (4.3) or Wikelman (2.7) still works on BTV.  I’d happily give up either.  I’d begrudgingly give up both, but I’d still do it…

[Duran Is The Man]

31 minutes ago, notin said:

Or he’ll be gone.

 

Marcelo Mayer and Wilyer Abreu (total - 94.1) for Tarik Skubal (95.1)

 

Thats actually a good haul for Detroit, although they may insist on a pitcher.  If necessary, iI’d add one in - almost any one…

i'd do that in a second.

 

[moonslav59]

Skubal has 2 years of team control. That is what worries me most about trading 5-6 years of Mayer and 4-5 of Abreu, but Skubal looks like the real deal, and maybe we could extend him.

If we do nothing else to improve the "2 year window" of Skubal, I'd think hard about saying no.

Sign Burnes AND trade for Skubal, and I'm 100% behind this trade suggestion.

Sign some other top 4-5 FA SP'er with Skubal, and I'm fine with it.

Call Campbell up to the 40 and 26, and pray Story stays healthy.

[mvp 78]

15 minutes ago, notin said:

Either Fitts (4.3) or Wikelman (2.7) still works on BTV.  I’d happily give up either.  I’d begrudgingly give up both, but I’d still do it…

Wikelman is garbo. I'm giving him up just to get him off the 40 man. 

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Skubal has 2 years of team control. That is what worries me most about trading 5-6 years of Mayer and 4-5 of Abreu, but Skubal looks like the real deal, and maybe we could extend him.

If we do nothing else to improve the "2 year window" of Skubal, I'd think hard about saying no.

Sign Burnes AND trade for Skubal, and I'm 100% behind this trade suggestion.

Sign some other top 4-5 FA SP'er with Skubal, and I'm fine with it.

Call Campbell up to the 40 and 26, and pray Story stays healthy.

How soon until Campbell is a better prospect than Mayer? Is he the 2b of the future anyway?

What if Romero is the future SS for the BoSox? Is he a top 100 guy at some point next year? 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Nobody's giving up an ace starting pitcher for an injury-prone prospect who hasn't even played in the majors yet. 

The best the Sox may get for Mayer is a Larry Andersen-type pitcher -- except there are no other Andersens available with a second e in their last names. They can probably get Shaun Anderson -- with an o -- a 29-year old pitcher from the Marlins with a career -1.7 WAR; at least he's a big leaguer (sometimes).

Facetiously, if Boston is going to trade a top prospect this winter, we all know it will be Kristian Campbell. He bats righty, has no set position, his swing is unnatural, and most importantly -- no one in the Red Sox org ever hyped him as part of the future core that will save! this! franchise!

[notin]

4 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Nobody's giving up an ace starting pitcher for an injury-prone prospect who hasn't even played in the majors yet. 

The best the Sox may get for Mayer is a Larry Andersen-type pitcher -- except there are no other Andersens available with a second e in their last names. They can probably get Shaun Anderson -- with an o -- a 29-year old pitcher from the Marlins with a career -1.7 WAR; at least he's a big leaguer (sometimes).

Facetiously, if Boston is going to trade a top prospect this winter, we all know it will be Kristian Campbell. He bats righty, has no set position, his swing is unnatural, and most importantly -- no one in the Red Sox org ever hyped him as part of the future core that will save! this! franchise!

Hey, no one said you have to play for a franchise to save it.

You mentioned Larry Andersen - once called the “most important player in Astros history.”  I doubt it was because he wracked up 7.8 bWAR in his 5 seasons there.

[notin]

17 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

How soon until Campbell is a better prospect than Mayer? Is he the 2b of the future anyway?

What if Romero is the future SS for the BoSox? Is he a top 100 guy at some point next year? 

Mikey Romero will crack the top 100 next year.  Book it…

[notin]

10 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Nobody's giving up an ace starting pitcher for an injury-prone prospect who hasn't even played in the majors yet. 

The best the Sox may get for Mayer is a Larry Andersen-type pitcher -- except there are no other Andersens available with a second e in their last names. They can probably get Shaun Anderson -- with an o -- a 29-year old pitcher from the Marlins with a career -1.7 WAR; at least he's a big leaguer (sometimes).

Facetiously, if Boston is going to trade a top prospect this winter, we all know it will be Kristian Campbell. He bats righty, has no set position, his swing is unnatural, and most importantly -- no one in the Red Sox org ever hyped him as part of the future core that will save! this! franchise!

I could see them trading Campbell, but it doesn’t work on BTV right now like Mayer does.

And it never will.  With no set position, Campbell is unlikely to project any dWAR numbers that help his surplus value…

[notin]

25 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Wikelman is garbo. I'm giving him up just to get him off the 40 man. 

Makes it sort of unlikely Detroit wants him for their only pitching prospect that actually worked out…

 

Maybe if you want Matt Manning or Casey Mize…

[moonslav59]

18 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

How soon until Campbell is a better prospect than Mayer? Is he the 2b of the future anyway?

What if Romero is the future SS for the BoSox? Is he a top 100 guy at some point next year? 

I'm a little worried that Campbell may be better suited for the OF, but if the guy can hit, I'm okay with an average or slightly below average defender at 2B, at least for a while.

I was mostly against the idea of trading Mayer, and I'm not so sure his trade value is all that high, due to so many injury concerns, but I'm really liking Campbell more and more. 

Yes, with Romero (and later Arias) in the pipeline, we may only need Campbell to play 2B for 1-2 years. (Maybe Meidroth could win the 2B job, someday. This also begs the question, who goes in the OF, if Campbell moves there? (Campbell to DH/4th OF in 2 years?)

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, notin said:

Mikey Romero will crack the top 100 next year.  Book it…

Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

I could see them trading Campbell, but it doesn’t work on BTV right now like Mayer does.

And it never will.  With no set position, Campbell is unlikely to project any dWAR numbers that help his surplus value…

Rotowire has him ranked as #9 overall. 🤗

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

Makes it sort of unlikely Detroit wants him for their only pitching prospect that actually worked out..,

That's why they are getting Fitts, Mayer and Abreu.

[notin]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

Rotowire has him ranked as #9 overall. 🤗

Crazy thought here - but a fantasy website like Rotoworld MIGHT NOT CARE about defense…

[moonslav59]

I think Detroit demands Anthony and tries to grab another top 4 prospect with him, but for just 2 years of control, I would not give into that demand.

Trading Anthony also means we don't trade Abreu, so who is the second best player traded with Anthony? DHam? LOL. Montgomery, Arias, Cespedes and Bleis are too far away to have great trade value. Perales is hurt. Meidroth, Sandlin & Fitts combined might not be enough to sweeten the Anthony package enough for DET to say yes.

[mvp 78]

Just now, notin said:

Crazy thought here - but a fantasy website like Rotoworld MIGHT NOT CARE about defense…

I know. You mentioning the dWAR issue just made me think of the Rotoworld ranking and how it overinflates his value. 

[notin]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

That's why they are getting Fitts, Mayer and Abreu.

Agreed.  You call Greenburg.  I’ll call Breslow.

[mvp 78]

Sheesh. Tough crowd sometimes. 

[mvp 78]

Just now, notin said:

Agreed.  You call Greenburg.  I’ll call Breslow.

Does he do text? 

[notin]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

I know. You mentioning the dWAR issue just made me think of the Rotoworld ranking and how it overinflates his value. 

He’ll probably be a very valuable fantasy asset someday.  Especially if he never gets a set position and has multiple eligibilities

[notin]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

Does he do text? 

Don’t know.  Call him and ask…

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, notin said:

He’ll probably be a very valuable fantasy asset someday.  Especially if he never gets a set position and has multiple eligibilities

We don't know, if he will be bad on defense, so maybe someday, he shows he can and his value jumps over Mayer's.

[notin]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

We don't know, if he will be bad on defense, so maybe someday, he shows he can and his value jumps over Mayer's.

And that will just f*** up his fantasy value..

[moonslav59]

21 minutes ago, notin said:

And that will just f*** up his fantasy value..

If Mayer is traded, who cares? He'll play for us. Romero & maybe Arias will be ready when Story's time is up.