Red Sox: Off Season 2024-2025

[mvp 78]

44 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Wood's aggregate record from 1971-1975 was 106-89.  An average record of 21-18. 😁

You win some, you lose some. 35.5 bWAR in those 4 years, but probably needed a job in the offseason to pay rent. 

I want to hear the groaning for Red Sox Nation when Cora announces that Kutter is going to start 49 games this year. 

[mvp 78]

 

[Hitch]

Amazing. You have to hand it to them. I'm both disgusted and jealous. 

[notin]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

The Dodgers are trying to win like a cop tries to take out a bad guy by pumping em full with 567 bullets

Make that 568 bullets as they just signed Yates…

[Bellhorn04]

This is really getting sick.

The Dodgers have gone well beyond what we used to think of as the Yanks trying to buy championships.

 

[Bellhorn04]

The Dodgers are ensuring a push for major changes in the next CBA.  Which of course will lead to a big fight and quite possibly another work stoppage or threat of one.

 

[notin]

2 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

This is really getting sick.

The Dodgers have gone well beyond what we used to think of as the Yanks trying to buy championships.

 

You’d think they didn’t win last year.  I’ve never seen a defending champion have such a thorough rebuild before.  I can’t imagine what it’s like for a lot of those players from last season.

Management is literally telling them “we know you just won a World Series, but frankly, a lot of you are simply just not perfect and therefore are going to be replaced by more expensive and therefore more perfect players.”

[mvp 78]

17 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

This is really getting sick.

The Dodgers have gone well beyond what we used to think of as the Yanks trying to buy championships.

 

Hats off to the Dodgers. It just shows how greedy the Sox ownership really is. 

[Bellhorn04]

Prior to the Yates signing, Cot's had the Dodgers at $374.7 million AAV + $122.5 projected tax = $497.2 million.  

A new record and climbing.

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Prior to the Yates signing, Cot's had the Dodgers at $374.7 million AAV + $122.5 projected tax = $497.2 million.  

A new record and climbing.

Their IF is kinda light... Why not Bregman? 

[Hitch]

2 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Prior to the Yates signing, Cot's had the Dodgers at $374.7 million AAV + $122.5 projected tax = $497.2 million.  

A new record and climbing.

Drop in the ocean when you get an $8bn TV deal. 

[jad]

5 hours ago, notin said:

Infinitely more reasonable? Infinitely?

Right, “it wasn’t me” is such a rare thing for the guilty to cry.  So it’s obviously infinitely likely to be true.  I wonder if Tucupita Marcano tried to blame his translator as well and how much MLB laughed at that.

Some of us struggle to believe Ohtani’s money was just so accessible that anyone who knew him could easily access millions of dollars and just happen to have a gambling problem and happened to get caught immediately after Ohtani signed a record-breaking, headline-stealing contract that it would have been a huge black eye for MLB if they had to void a week later because they banned the player for life.

Although even if Ohtani did get caught betting on baseball, MLB would probably change another rule for him…

Even though I don't have many rich friends, a few of those I do claim they have NEVER looked at the details of their bank accounts.  Getting ripped off by a 'personal assistant' is very common.   But then, what you and I think has absolutely NO bearing on Ohtani, nor does it affect LAD's obvious superiority over the floundering RS.

Also, I apologize for the grievous sin of using the hyperbole 'infinitely', since I realize such rhetoric is completely unacceptable on sports boards, and never to be found among the posters here.

 

[win red sox]

27 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Their IF is kinda light... Why not Bregman? 

Dodgers will not sign free agents that have QO attached unless they are  elite (Ohtani,Freeman) per my friends that are Dodger fans.

[moonslav59]

Dodgers to sign Yates, right after the Scott deal. There goes the one area of weakness they had.

This is worse than the Yankee reign of financial dominance.

 

[win red sox]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Dodgers to sign Yates, right after the Scott deal. There goes the one area of weakness they had.

This is worse than the Yankee reign of financial dominance.

 

Pretty sure this is going to lead to a lockout.

[harmony]

13 minutes ago, win red sox said:

Pretty sure this is going to lead to a lockout.

Are the other franchises encouraging the Los Angeles Dodgers to spend freely this offseason to provide justification for a salary cap in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement?

A salary cap would benefit most, if not all, franchises.

[notin]

22 minutes ago, jad said:

Even though I don't have many rich friends, a few of those I do claim they have NEVER looked at the details of their bank accounts.  Getting ripped off by a 'personal assistant' is very common.   But then, what you and I think has absolutely NO bearing on Ohtani, nor does it affect LAD's obvious superiority over the floundering RS.

Also, I apologize for the grievous sin of using the hyperbole 'infinitely', since I realize such rhetoric is completely unacceptable on sports boards, and never to be found among the posters here.

 

I’m sure many rich folks get ripped off by their employees.  But let’s be realistic.  The ones who do rip them off have some sort of access to their money.  Assistant?  Accountant? Sure.  Gardener? Probably not.

Shohei isn’t some single guy living with his translator in a luxury bachelor pad.  He has a wife. He probably has an accountant.  He might even have a personal assistant.  (It is LA, after all)

To think his wife, accountant, assistant, and bank all didn’t notice these transactions? And the one guy with complete access to his account was the guy whose sole responsibility was to translate languages for him (which is not a financial thing).

The more one thinks about it, the less likely Shohei appears  innocent…

[notin]

21 minutes ago, win red sox said:

Dodgers will not sign free agents that have QO attached unless they are  elite (Ohtani,Freeman) per my friends that are Dodger fans.

Welcome to LA, Ha-Seung Kim…

[mvp 78]

29 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Dodgers to sign Yates, right after the Scott deal. There goes the one area of weakness they had.

This is worse than the Yankee reign of financial dominance.

 

All of the other owners are more rich than ever and none of them wanted Kirby Yates before 1/21. Hard to be upset at the Dodgers right now when our owner is pinching pennies while raking fans over the coals. 

[mvp 78]

9 minutes ago, notin said:

Welcome to LA, Ha-Seung Kim…

To have Hyeseong and Ha-Seong would be too much even for them. 

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, notin said:

I’m sure many rich folks get ripped off by their employees.  But let’s be realistic.  The ones who do rip them off have some sort of access to their money.  Assistant?  Accountant? Sure. 

Hey, there's a long history of fine TalkSox accountants. Truly the sweet science! 

[Bellhorn04]

26 minutes ago, notin said:

I’m sure many rich folks get ripped off by their employees.  But let’s be realistic.  The ones who do rip them off have some sort of access to their money.  Assistant?  Accountant? Sure.  Gardener? Probably not.

Shohei isn’t some single guy living with his translator in a luxury bachelor pad.  He has a wife. He probably has an accountant.  He might even have a personal assistant.  (It is LA, after all)

To think his wife, accountant, assistant, and bank all didn’t notice these transactions? And the one guy with complete access to his account was the guy whose sole responsibility was to translate languages for him (which is not a financial thing).

The more one thinks about it, the less likely Shohei appears  innocent…

I believe it was reported that Ohtani and the interpreter were close friends for years and Ohtani placed a lot of trust in him and counted on him to look after things besides the interpreting.  Seems like he was the personal assistant.  So you might be on kind of the wrong track there.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

38 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I believe it was reported that Ohtani and the interpreter were close friends for years and Ohtani placed a lot of trust in him and counted on him to look after things besides the interpreting.  Seems like he was the personal assistant.  So you might be on kind of the wrong track there.

Track? Dogs or horses? See how these threads sustain themselves (reminds me of that alien aluminum foil from the Roswell crash -- crumble it up, it straightens itself out... oh, it was from a weather balloon?).

As for the cliche "you really got to hand it to them" -- tell Dave Roberts that, when he's only got one baseball to hand to kajillion pitching kajillionaires.

The rest of the league can just sit back and enjoy watching LA's dissension-filled sunflower seed shell-spitting comp.

[notin]

59 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

To have Hyeseong and Ha-Seong would be too much even for them. 

Fun fact - they were teammates in Korea…

[notin]

47 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

I believe it was reported that Ohtani and the interpreter were close friends for years and Ohtani placed a lot of trust in him and counted on him to look after things besides the interpreting.  Seems like he was the personal assistant.  So you might be on kind of the wrong track there.

Maybe they were tight.  But that open doors that Ohtani knowingly gave him money to gamble with.  And, yes, that could absolutely be a big deal.  Of course that is just speculation.  But there was always a lot of questions about this that were just accepted too quickly…

 

[mvp 78]

14 minutes ago, notin said:

Fun fact - they were teammates in Korea…

That may fly in Koreatown in LA, but over in Chavez Ravine they won't stand for it. Probably will need to show up late and leave by the 8th inning every game if that happens!

[moonslav59]

Top 8 FA signings in 2024 (Total Money)

2 NYM (Soto & Manaea) 1 LAD (Snell) 1 NYY (Fried) 1 AZ (Burnes) 1 SFG (Adames) 1 TOR (Santander) 1 TEX (Nate)

Top 16:

3 NYM (add Holmes), 3 LAD (add Scott & Teoscar) 2 TEX (Pederson)  1 NYY, AZ, SFG, TOR, TEX, OAK (add Severino) LAA (Kikuchi) HOU (Walker) BAL (O'Neill)

Top 24: 5 NYM, 4 LAD, 2 TEX, 2 TOR, 1 NYY, AZ, SFG, CHC, CLE, BOS, CIN

Top 32: 5 NYM, 5 LAD, 3 TEX, 3 TOR, 2 SFG, 2 BOS, 2 DET

Top 40: 5 NYM & LAD, 3 TEX, TOR & BOS, 2 SFG, DET, NYY, LAA, CLE, CHC, OAK

(The top 40 is all players paid $10M or more. Yates not included.)

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

At the beginning of the offseason -- when Sam said the Red Sox will exceed the tax -- his quote got cut short.

The entire quote was "the Red Sox will exceed the taxi -- get me some Uber -- cuz when it comes to spending big on upgrades, we are outta here!"

[Bellhorn04]

18 hours ago, notin said:

Maybe they were tight.  But that open doors that Ohtani knowingly gave him money to gamble with.  And, yes, that could absolutely be a big deal.  Of course that is just speculation.  But there was always a lot of questions about this that were just accepted too quickly…

 

The Ohtani investigation brings to mind the death of Spinal Tap drummer John "Stumpy" Pepys in a "bizarre gardening accident".

Per bass player Derek Smalls: "The authorities said 'Best leave it unsolved'." 

[Bellhorn04]

16 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

At the beginning of the offseason -- when Sam said the Red Sox will exceed the tax -- his quote got cut short.

The entire quote was "the Red Sox will exceed the taxi -- get me some Uber -- cuz when it comes to spending big on upgrades, we are outta here!"

We have to be careful, because old Sammy is getting pretty smooth with the lines.  Here's what he actually said:

"Even if it takes us over the CBT,” said Kennedy at the owners meetings, “our priority is 90 to 95 wins, and winning the American League East, and winning the division for multiple years.”