Trades?

[Old Red]

Jansen is on fire now and I think we could get a top 10 prospect from the Phillies for him!!!!!

 

And more importantly the Red Sox have a better chance of making the postseason this year (2024) with Jansen closing games for them. Cora said he expects to be playing baseball in October this year (2024).

[Fan_since_Boggs]

How about this plan?

1. Promote Meidroth and make him the everyday SS. This would give the Red Sox lineup a patient hitter, the new greek god of walks.

2. Trade for a right-handed batter who can replace Yoshida at DH. I want Guerrero, but I guess he will be too expensive to acquire.

3. Trade for a Starting Pitcher.

 

An I the only one who thinks that Yoshida is a huge problem? Do we need to be more patient with him?

[moonslav59]

How about this plan?

1. Promote Meidroth and make him the everyday SS. This would give the Red Sox lineup a patient hitter, the new greek god of walks.

2. Trade for a right-handed batter who can replace Yoshida at DH. I want Guerrero, but I guess he will be too expensive to acquire.

3. Trade for a Starting Pitcher.

 

An I the only one who thinks that Yoshida is a huge problem? Do we need to be more patient with him?

 

Oddly enough, our middle IF of DHam, Valdez and Romy does not need a wild gamble on Meidroth, who is not a good defensive SS.

 

The Sox scouts loved Yoshida. He will get a long look, as in beyond the deadline. His .803 OPS over his last 11 games, including the Sox biggest hit of the season has insured that, IMO, deserving or not.

 

I am 100% on board with adding a SPer, but giving up a big chunk of the future for a rental is not a good idea. It is rare and costly to get a longer controlled pitcher, at the deadline, but I’d bite the bullet for both the 2024 season AND beyond. Trade some of our glorified everyday player farm for a solid SPer with 2.5+ years of team control.

 

If possible flip a LHd hitter for a RHd one.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

 

I am 100% on board with adding a SPer, but giving up a big chunk of the future for a rental is not a good idea. It is rare and costly to get a longer controlled pitcher, at the deadline, but I’d bite the bullet for both the 2024 season AND beyond. Trade some of our glorified everyday player farm for a solid SPer with 2.5+ years of team control.

 

If possible flip a LHd hitter for a RHd one.

 

Every time I see Breslow interviews, he seems to speak with restraint. He just can't allow himself to get excited about hot streaks, hot pitchers in the Spring, hot hitters in the Summer, or a hot manager all season (with this roster). When asked to comment about the current team, he always has to repeat his stock line about doing what's best for both now and the future...

 

It would be shocking if the Sox traded a top prospect for a top-of-the-rotation ace. But it would also be disappointing if they didn't at least deal some farm depth for a big league starting pitcher -- someone reliable to just take the ball every five days for the next three months. Bassitt, Flaherty, guys like that are out there -- and will be moved to contenders.

 

If Brez supplies the latter, it's a sign he's also supporting Cora (with more hopes of retaining him, as well). Help for the rotation also helps the bullpen, where Wink could move back to, and provide quality innings.

 

If Brez instead just decides to lean on Criswell, or another Criswell-type acquisition, he knows and we know just what the inevitable burnout to the pitching staff will mean...

[mvp 78]

Does the camera crew filming the Red Sox this season, affect how bres-slow’s performance during the trade deadline????

 

No.

[mvp 78]

Sox attendance is almost exactly what it was last year, so apparently the 2024 Sox fans who go to Fenway Park--and spend huge sums of money in so doing--don't care whether the Sox win or lose. I think they don't like rooting for a whole bunch of no-names. Nobody on the Sox got significant ASG votes.

 

As for acquiring fresh blood this month, I agree it makes sense. And, by the way, offseason trades/acquisitions have been no more intelligent or useful than in-season.

 

I would love to see a good starter, but the Sox have had horrendously bad luck in that category. Eovaldi was terrific in 2018, but he didn't start. Peavy in 2013 was OK, nothing more.

 

I would also like to see a good righty bat, especially someone who gets doubles.

 

Red Sox fans aren't going to fill the stands back up just because of a few hot weeks. The Sox were disappointing in 2019, terrible in 2020, surprising in 2021 and below average and boring in 2022 and 2023. Most people have tuned out. If the Sox are around for the playoffs, the fans will come back like they did for 2021.

[mvp 78]

How about this plan?

1. Promote Meidroth and make him the everyday SS. This would give the Red Sox lineup a patient hitter, the new greek god of walks.

2. Trade for a right-handed batter who can replace Yoshida at DH. I want Guerrero, but I guess he will be too expensive to acquire.

3. Trade for a Starting Pitcher.

 

An I the only one who thinks that Yoshida is a huge problem? Do we need to be more patient with him?

 

Meidroth is a poor SS who would barely get the ball out of the IF.

[mvp 78]

Every time I see Breslow interviews, he seems to speak with restraint. He just can't allow himself to get excited about hot streaks

 

Good.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Every time I see Breslow interviews, he seems to speak with restraint. He just can't allow himself to get excited about hot streaks

Good.

 

Right -- just wish the Sox weren't underachieving, according to the team president.

 

Maybe Brez would recruit some reinforcements, if only they could just... achieve...

[mvp 78]

Every time I see Breslow interviews, he seems to speak with restraint. He just can't allow himself to get excited about hot streaks

 

 

Right -- just wish the Sox weren't underachieving, according to the team president.

 

Maybe Brez would recruit some reinforcements, if only they could just... achieve...

 

We'd all be better off if the ownership group just f***ed off and never talked to the media. Have they ever said anything beneficial since Larry dipped? Werner, Henry and Sammy are all jokes who can't stop shoving their feet in their mouths and needing to clarify their statements after the fact.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Meidroth, who is not a good defensive SS.

 

Moon, do you consider C.Rafaela a high quality defensive SS? Just curious. If Rafaela is a solid or better than average defender at SS, it might make the most sense to give him the starting SS job and look for an upgrade (right handed bat) at either DH or RF.

 

Also, what are you throughts on Duran's defense? Is he a good enough defensive player in centerfield?

[Maxbialystock]

Oddly enough, our middle IF of DHam, Valdez and Romy does not need a wild gamble on Meidroth, who is not a good defensive SS.

 

The Sox scouts loved Yoshida. He will get a long look, as in beyond the deadline. His .803 OPS over his last 11 games, including the Sox biggest hit of the season has insured that, IMO, deserving or not.

 

I am 100% on board with adding a SPer, but giving up a big chunk of the future for a rental is not a good idea. It is rare and costly to get a longer controlled pitcher, at the deadline, but I’d bite the bullet for both the 2024 season AND beyond. Trade some of our glorified everyday player farm for a solid SPer with 2.5+ years of team control.

 

If possible flip a LHd hitter for a RHd one.

 

I like the idea of a RH hitter a lot because the Sox are faring much better on the road than at the Fens with the Green Monster, which is made to order for good righty bats.

 

However, I also like the idea of a reliable starter. The problem, of course, is that Bloom and now Breslow have bombed on the "reliable" part. The current Sox pitching coach, Andrew Bailey, seems to know something about pitchers, so maybe he can help them find a good one.

 

The point is, this Sox team is definitely in the hunt for the postseason.

[Dipre]

How has Breslow bombed anything regarding the current or projected pitching staff for this team? Just curious.

[Bellhorn04]

Every time I see Breslow interviews, he seems to speak with restraint. He just can't allow himself to get excited about hot streaks

 

 

Right -- just wish the Sox weren't underachieving, according to the team president.

 

Maybe Brez would recruit some reinforcements, if only they could just... achieve...

 

Sam lit a fire under the guys! He's like the executive version of Big Papi!

[Bellhorn04]

How has Breslow bombed anything regarding the current or projected pitching staff for this team? Just curious.

 

There's a thread for the Sale trade.

[Dipre]

There's a thread for the Sale trade.

 

Red Sox team ERA: 3.61 (7th in MLB), K/9: 8.68 (10th in MLB), BB/9 2.60 (4th in MLB), WHIP: 1.19 (6th).

 

You can mention Chris Sale as much as you want, this is one of the top run prevention units in the league so far. That is a fact. What isn't a fact is what Chris Sale may or may have not brought to the table. Let's not deal in what-ifs, let's deal in facts. The fact is the pitching infrastructure of this team is miles better than it was last year, as the team has turned from one of the worst run prevention units in the league to one of the best, under Breslow and the pitching coach he brought in . The rest is noise.

[Bellhorn04]

Red Sox team ERA: 3.61 (7th in MLB), K/9: 8.68 (10th in MLB), BB/9 2.60 (4th in MLB), WHIP: 1.19 (6th).

 

You can mention Chris Sale as much as you want, this is one of the top run prevention units in the league so far. That is a fact. What isn't a fact is what Chris Sale may or may have not brought to the table. Let's not deal in what-ifs, let's deal in facts. The fact is the pitching infrastructure of this team is miles better than it was last year, as the team has turned from one of the worst run prevention units in the league to one of the best, under Breslow and the pitching coach he brought in . The rest is noise.

 

The overall results have been excellent, that's indisputable.

[mvp 78]

Moon, do you consider C.Rafaela a high quality defensive SS? Just curious. If Rafaela is a solid or better than average defender at SS, it might make the most sense to give him the starting SS job and look for an upgrade (right handed bat) at either DH or RF.

 

Also, what are you throughts on Duran's defense? Is he a good enough defensive player in centerfield?

 

Rafaela is fine. He's an above average CF with GG caliber defense. At SS, he's not that.

 

Duran is above average in CF. I think his metrics are juiced a little, but he's been very good this year.

[mvp 78]

How has Breslow bombed anything regarding the current or projected pitching staff for this team? Just curious.

 

Bello hasn't stepped up and Joely was a waste of a roster spot, but hard to call either a bomb.

[Dipre]

Bello hasn't stepped up and Joely was a waste of a roster spot, but hard to call either a bomb.

 

They probably have a certain level of faith in fixing Bello.

[notin]

They probably have a certain level of faith in fixing Bello.

 

Bello hasn't been horrible. He's just been worse than the unextended Houck and Crawford...

[moonslav59]

Moon, do you consider C.Rafaela a high quality defensive SS? Just curious. If Rafaela is a solid or better than average defender at SS, it might make the most sense to give him the starting SS job and look for an upgrade (right handed bat) at either DH or RF.

 

Also, what are you throughts on Duran's defense? Is he a good enough defensive player in centerfield?

 

It’s hard to tell, and I know that sounds like a cop out. He looks great, at times, then makes an easy play look hard. I think the good to great plays far outnumber the bad ones, but the metrics don’t support that view.

 

He’s such a great CFer, I’m not sure why we should give him a long look at SS, unless it’s an emergency, like now.

[Old Red]

Bello hasn't been horrible. He's just been worse than the unextended Houck and Crawford...

 

Yes hindsight now says they could have done something with Houck, and a contract. He can’t become a FA untill the 2028 season when he will be 32, so I don’t know if you want to buy out his 3 ARB years with a couple more years added. He’s been better than good so far, but I still want to see how he finishes out the season

[notin]

It’s hard to tell, and I know that sounds like a cop out. He looks great, at times, then makes an easy play look hard. I think the good to great plays far outnumber the bad ones, but the metrics don’t support that view.

 

He’s such a great CFer, I’m not sure why we should give him a long look at SS, unless it’s an emergency, like now.

 

Acquire a SS (DeJong?)

 

Put Rafaela in CF.

 

Move Duran to LF.

 

Move O’Neill to RF.

 

Abreu can be used as the 4th OF to give each a regularly scheduled Cora Break. Or he could be demoted to play more.

 

Refsnyder moves to a RHH DH role in a platoon with Yoshida.

[moonslav59]

How has Breslow bombed anything regarding the current or projected pitching staff for this team? Just curious.

 

Signing Giolito was Hiroshima.

 

Trading Sale was Nagasaki

[Old Red]

signing giolito was hiroshima.

 

Trading sale was nagasaki

 

👍👍👍 boom!

[jung]

Not sure I am interested in trades at this point at least those that could involve Sox young talent.

 

But as to adding to this team. THIS TEAM DESERVES IT. The fans don't deserve it. The media does not deserve it. But the team does.

 

If we don't realize that and the trade deadline ends with a whimper, I am not convinced that we should ever forget it. Based on past history I don't think the team would forget it were it not for how many guys on this team don't really know what they are doing and what their expectations should be.

[mvp 78]

Acquire a SS (DeJong?)

 

Put Rafaela in CF.

 

Move Duran to LF.

 

Move O’Neill to RF.

 

Abreu can be used as the 4th OF to give each a regularly scheduled Cora Break. Or he could be demoted to play more.

 

Refsnyder moves to a RHH DH role in a platoon with Yoshida.

 

Ok.

[mvp 78]

Signing Giolito was Hiroshima.

 

Trading Sale was Nagasaki

 

Your timing is backwards. Hiroshima happened before Nagasaki. Sale happened before Giolito.

[Hugh2]

Weird thing about DeJong is he has really struggled against LHP this year, reverse splits are weird.

 

That could easily reverse the rest of the way, or if he's really going to struggle vs. LHP then put Rafaela at SS for a start or two a week against a lefty and load the outfield up with O'Neill and Refsnyder at the corners. Or just sit Ceddanne and play Hamilton there, I'm not in love with Hamilton at SS but he's fine there for a game here and there.