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here is my projected roster to open 2025

 

C-Teel, Wong

1B-Casas

2B-Story

SS-Mayer

3B-Devers

Extra IF-Grissom

LF-Duran or Abreu

CF-Rafaela

RF-O'Neill or another 1 year FA signing

Duran or Abreu or Refsynder the 4th OF

 

I still see Anthony needing another year at AAA given his age.

 

Rotation: Bello

Houck

Crawford

Gioloto

Pivetta or another FA on a 1 yr deal

 

Bullpen--I'm not even going go there because there are so balls in the air. We are using guys I have never heard of this year with some success but I don't expect either Martin or Janssen to return so I don't even want to guess what our BP will be. This roster though should be able to compile another .500 or near record and the payroll will keep Mr Scrooge happy.

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here is my projected roster to open 2025

 

C-Teel, Wong

1B-Casas

2B-Story

SS-Mayer

3B-Devers

Extra IF-Grissom

LF-Duran or Abreu

CF-Rafaela

RF-O'Neill or another 1 year FA signing

Duran or Abreu or Refsynder the 4th OF

 

I still see Anthony needing another year at AAA given his age.

 

Rotation: Bello

Houck

Crawford

Gioloto

Pivetta or another FA on a 1 yr deal

 

Bullpen--I'm not even going go there because there are so balls in the air. We are using guys I have never heard of this year with some success but I don't expect either Martin or Janssen to return so I don't even want to guess what our BP will be. This roster though should be able to compile another .500 or near record and the payroll will keep Mr Scrooge happy.

 

I think Abreu will be the FT RFer, and we sign a pier RHB to be the DH/RF or 1B back-up.

 

I hope but don’t think we add a TORSP, but maybe Pivetta returning would be enough, if we can stay healthy.

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I think Abreu will be the FT RFer, and we sign a pier RHB to be the DH/RF or 1B back-up.

 

I hope but don’t think we add a TORSP, but maybe Pivetta returning would be enough, if we can stay healthy.

 

No rotation can stay healthy with modern battle plans to sweep the elbow, so rich clubs that sincerely want to contend need to secure eight legitimate starting pitchers on the parent club and AAA taxi squad (who aren't White Sox castoffs).

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No rotation can stay healthy with modern battle plans to sweep the elbow, so rich clubs that sincerely want to contend need to secure eight legitimate starting pitchers on the parent club and AAA taxi squad (who aren't White Sox castoffs).

 

I think it's to time to find something better than Tommy John surgery. Just start sawing arms off and replacing with robotic ones.

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I think Abreu will be the FT RFer, and we sign a pier RHB to be the DH/RF or 1B back-up.

 

I hope but don’t think we add a TORSP, but maybe Pivetta returning would be enough, if we can stay healthy.

 

yeah that should get us another .500 season all right

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yeah that should get us another .500 season all right

 

That's the goal, right? If you win as many as you lose, you're competitive.

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That's the goal, right? If you win as many as you lose, you're competitive.

 

that certainly seems to be the Red Sox goal but looking at the AL East standings today we are 1 game out of last place

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That's the goal, right? If you win as many as you lose, you're competitive.

 

500 would be better than the last two years, but it’s still a pretty low bar to set, but that’s what the Red Sox have become.

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I think it's to time to find something better than Tommy John surgery. Just start sawing arms off and replacing with robotic ones.

 

Right. Replace Tommy John surgery with Steve Austin surgery.

 

Henry would love this idea, because nowadays $6,000,000 is pretty cheap for a good starter…

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No rotation can stay healthy with modern battle plans to sweep the elbow, so rich clubs that sincerely want to contend need to secure eight legitimate starting pitchers on the parent club and AAA taxi squad (who aren't White Sox castoffs).

 

Teams have been doing that for years. Except Breslow for some reason…

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here is my projected roster to open 2025

 

C-Teel, Wong

1B-Casas

2B-Story

SS-Mayer

3B-Devers

Extra IF-Grissom

LF-Duran or Abreu

CF-Rafaela

RF-O'Neill or another 1 year FA signing

Duran or Abreu or Refsynder the 4th OF

 

I still see Anthony needing another year at AAA given his age.

 

Rotation: Bello

Houck

Crawford

Gioloto

Pivetta or another FA on a 1 yr deal

 

Bullpen--I'm not even going go there because there are so balls in the air. We are using guys I have never heard of this year with some success but I don't expect either Martin or Janssen to return so I don't even want to guess what our BP will be. This roster though should be able to compile another .500 or near record and the payroll will keep Mr Scrooge happy.

 

 

The Sox 2025 bullpen should be easy to predict, since Breslow already starting building it. Liam Hendriks and Michael Fulmer are already signed. Hopefully the Sox finally learn their lesson about Whitlock. We could also very likely see the returns of any or all of Josh Winckowski, Zack Kelly, Isaiah Kennedy, Brennan Bernardino, Greg Weissert, Cam Booser, and Justin Slaten….

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I think Abreu will be the FT RFer, and we sign a pier RHB to be the DH/RF or 1B back-up.

 

I hope but don’t think we add a TORSP, but maybe Pivetta returning would be enough, if we can stay healthy.

 

It’s certainly likely the Sox roll forward in 2025 with Duran, Rafaela and Abreu ahead of Refsnyder in the OF.

 

This roster is missing Yoshida, who’s extremely likely to be back next year as the DH role. That doesn’t leave much for adding a RHH power bat, but they could always add some Andrew McCutchen type to platoon at DH…

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The Sox 2025 bullpen should be easy to predict, since Breslow already starting building it. Liam Hendriks and Michael Fulmer are already signed. Hopefully the Sox finally learn their lesson about Whitlock. We could also very likely see the returns of any or all of Josh Winckowski, Zack Kelly, Isaiah Kennedy, Brennan Bernardino, Greg Weissert, Cam Booser, and Justin Slaten….

 

well you have listed 10 guys as possibles so like I said the BP is up in the air. It will likely be almost mid season till Whitlock returns. Do you figure they are going to go with Hendriks and Fulmer at the back end?

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i think it is pretty close to what it will be though

 

I like Pivetta and O’Neill, but I would be surprised if either one actually got re-signed. Especially O’Neill…

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I like Pivetta and O’Neill, but I would be surprised if either one actually got re-signed. Especially O’Neill…

 

the way O'Neill has been hitting the past month he should come pretty cheap on a 1 yr deal

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well you have listed 10 guys as possibles so like I said the BP is up in the air. It will likely be almost mid season till Whitlock returns. Do you figure they are going to go with Hendriks and Fulmer at the back end?

 

Hendiks closes, Slaten top set up man. I’m not sure Fulmer starts the year as#3 in the pen

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well you have listed 10 guys as possibles so like I said the BP is up in the air. It will likely be almost mid season till Whitlock returns. Do you figure they are going to go with Hendriks and Fulmer at the back end?

 

Some of them stil have options, I believe.

 

Hendriks, yes if healthy. Fulmer? Doubtful anyone has given any thought to his role in 2025 yet. Heck, the plan might eventually be that he replaces Pivetta in the rotation for all we know at this point…

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Some of them stil have options, I believe.

 

Hendriks, yes if healthy. Fulmer? Doubtful anyone has given any thought to his role in 2025 yet. Heck, the plan might eventually be that he replaces Pivetta in the rotation for all we know at this point…

 

Once again taking fliers on guys with injuries in their recent history since it has worked out so well in the past.

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Liam Hendricks is a good pitcher. Kenley Jansen is one of the all-time best closers. They are about the same age. Jansen has 429 saves. Hendricks has 116. Career ERA: Jansen - 2.53. Hendricks- 3.82. Well over a full run higher. Do you call this an improvement? What the Sox should do is go out and get one of the triple digit- fastball young fireballers, of which there are several in MLB today.
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Liam Hendricks is a good pitcher. Kenley Jansen is one of the all-time best closers. They are about the same age. Jansen has 429 saves. Hendricks has 116. Career ERA: Jansen - 2.53. Hendricks- 3.82. Well over a full run higher. Do you call this an improvement? What the Sox should do is go out and get one of the triple digit- fastball young fireballers, of which there are several in MLB today.

 

hard to get one of those guys on 1 year deals

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hard to get one of those guys on 1 year deals

 

If you can't develop your own, you need to give up something to get one. And pay what it takes.

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If you can't develop your own, you need to give up something to get one. And pay what it takes.

 

i think they are counting on TRYING to develop one of their own as they are not willing to spend what it takes for one.. I wonder how Henry feels about paying THREE P who are going to combine to not throw a single pitch this year?

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Liam Hendricks is a good pitcher. Kenley Jansen is one of the all-time best closers. They are about the same age. Jansen has 429 saves. Hendricks has 116. Career ERA: Jansen - 2.53. Hendricks- 3.82. Well over a full run higher. Do you call this an improvement? What the Sox should do is go out and get one of the triple digit- fastball young fireballers, of which there are several in MLB today.

 

Hendriks actually doesn’t have much experience as a closer. 114 of his 116 saves came in one 4 year stretch of his 13 year career…

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Liam Hendricks is a good pitcher. Kenley Jansen is one of the all-time best closers. They are about the same age. Jansen has 429 saves. Hendricks has 116. Career ERA: Jansen - 2.53. Hendricks- 3.82. Well over a full run higher. Do you call this an improvement? What the Sox should do is go out and get one of the triple digit- fastball young fireballers, of which there are several in MLB today.

 

For a closer,

 

control & command >>> velocity…

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