Giolito Injured

[Hugh2]

Per his appearance on the Name Redacted podcast, he was spending Spring Training living with his new girlfriend.

 

Second marriages have higher divorce rates. Get that man away from his girlriend and lock him up in the gym!!!!!

[Hitch]

The Red Sox announce that SP Lucas Giolito yesterday underwent a successful right elbow ulnar collateral ligament repair with internal brace.

 

Avoided Tommy John. Some good news. Rich Hill had the internal brace procedure by Dr. Jeffrey Dugas back in October of 2019. He returned to the mound on July 29th in 2020.

[notin]

The Red Sox announce that SP Lucas Giolito yesterday underwent a successful right elbow ulnar collateral ligament repair with internal brace.

 

Avoided Tommy John. Some good news. Rich Hill had the internal brace procedure by Dr. Jeffrey Dugas back in October of 2019. He returned to the mound on July 29th in 2020.

 

 

Giolito will likely miss 2024, but TJ would have him out until July-ish, 2025. He might be back for ST next year…

[Hitch]

Giolito will likely miss 2024, but TJ would have him out until July-ish, 2025. He might be back for ST next year…

 

Yes. The Sox might want to play it much slower, after news of the extra option in Gio's contract leaked.

 

If Giolito opts in for 2025, then throws fewer than 140 innings that year, the club gets a $14 million club option (or $1.5 million buyout) for 2026. If he reaches that 140-inning mark, the option will become a $19 million mutual option (which both sides would need to exercise, meaning it’s almost certain to be declined) or the $1.5 million buyout.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Yes. The Sox might want to play it much slower, after news of the extra option in Gio's contract leaked.

 

If Giolito opts in for 2025, then throws fewer than 140 innings that year, the club gets a $14 million club option (or $1.5 million buyout) for 2026. If he reaches that 140-inning mark, the option will become a $19 million mutual option (which both sides would need to exercise, meaning it’s almost certain to be declined) or the $1.5 million buyout.

 

Someone argue why the italics don't further confirm this is a dumb contract for a team that really needs to solidify (not liquify) the starting rotation now and for the future.

 

Innings pitched may make sense as an incentive for someone hired to be a workhorse, but only 140 for a guy with an average IP of 192 (per every 162 games over an 8-year career)? The Red Sox were obviously protecting their investment against injury -- but why? Was there a risk that they knew about?

 

Or for a healthy Giolito, would less than 140 instead mean he was too much of a risk for giving up home runs that Cora and Co. had to get him off the mound?

[Hitch]

There's next to no risk putting that in the contract. If he does have an injury in his second year, they can pick him up cheap for a third. There's literally nothing to complain about here, unless complaining is all you're setting out to do.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

There's next to no risk putting that in the contract. If he does have an injury in his second year, they can pick him up cheap for a third. There's literally nothing to complain about here, unless complaining is all you're setting out to do.

 

Ok, I won't complain about the opportunity to keep a guy in his 30s at a bargain rate in 2026, five years after his last good season.

 

But tell me how to praise a contract that all but ensures your most expensive offseason acquisition starting pitcher -- presuming he was healthy -- leaves in '25 if he's good in '24, but stays if he's bad... given by a team in real need of any good starting pitchers.

 

Unless, of course, a club that hasn't paid market rate for any available top starting mound talent in half a decade will suddenly change its business plan...

[Hitch]

If your intention, as it seems, was just to use this to relitigate the original contract, I suggest you just go back to when we signed him and read the multiple posts that have already once been posted.

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Ok, I won't complain about the opportunity to keep a guy in his 30s at a bargain rate in 2026, five years after his last good season.

 

But tell me how to praise a contract that all but ensures your most expensive offseason acquisition starting pitcher -- presuming he was healthy -- leaves in '25 if he's good in '24, but stays if he's bad... given by a team in real need of any good starting pitchers.

 

Unless, of course, a club that hasn't paid market rate for any available top starting mound talent in half a decade will suddenly change its business plan...

 

Oddly this is playing out well for the Red Sox, as Giolito can’t have a good year and leave them. The Red Sox might have already added two former White Sox to the 2025 staff at bargain prices.

 

Granted, it doesn’t do anything for 2024, which they could still do if they wanted to…

[vjcsmoke]

Giolito may have a partial tear of his UCL and may need season ending surgery. What a disaster and a horrible signing!!!! Par for the course for this organization!!!

 

Another Trevor Story type of signing. The Red Sox are awful at doing their medical homework before handing out contracts.

[moonslav59]

Another Trevor Story type of signing. The Red Sox are awful at doing their medical homework before handing out contracts.

 

It's possible no medical teams would have found anything on some or many of our cases.

[jad]

If you always look for bargains, you get them.

[mvp 78]

Another Trevor Story type of signing. The Red Sox are awful at doing their medical homework before handing out contracts.

 

Every time a pitcher throws a pitch, they get one pitch closer to getting TJS. His medicals may have been perfectly fine at the time of signing.