A Realistic View at 2024: Part I

[moonslav59]

Who knows what Cora was offered before, and that was before Breslow was hired, so that offer might still not be there, or be what it was.

What you would drool over, and what Cora would drool over are most likely two entirely different things. From the way Cora talked at the end of this past season when he said it doesn’t matter what you’re farm ranking is, but but what you do, or don’t do in October is what’s most important. In other words the here, and now is most important, and has been the last two years, so I don’t think Cora is drooling over what, or what might not happen down the road. You’d be drooling if things looked good in 2030.🤭🙈.

 

Once again, a totally wrong take on my position and feelings.

 

Weren’t you the one that said Cora was the one pulling the strings?

[moonslav59]

Who knows what Cora was offered before, and that was before Breslow was hired, so that offer might still not be there, or be what it was.

What you would drool over, and what Cora would drool over are most likely two entirely different things. From the way Cora talked at the end of this past season when he said it doesn’t matter what you’re farm ranking is, but but what you do, or don’t do in October is what’s most important. In other words the here, and now is most important, and has been the last two years, so I don’t think Cora is drooling over what, or what might not happen down the road. You’d be drooling if things looked good in 2030.🤭🙈.

 

I never said Cora would be drooling.

[Old Red]

Once again, a totally wrong take on my position and feelings.

 

Weren’t you the one that said Cora was the one pulling the strings?

 

Cora pulled the strings at the end of last season, and held the door open for Bloom when he left.

[moonslav59]

Cora pulled the strings at the end of last season, and held the door open for Bloom when he left.

 

But not the Brez move?

[moonslav59]

Monty was not my first choice, but if we can get him plus Imanaga or Stroman, I’ll have a sliver of hope for 2024.

[Old Red]

But not the Brez move?

 

Nobody knows what Cora was offered for a role in the FO, but either way I don’t think Cora is, or will be anytime soon. Brez in place now may have changed that.

[Old Red]

I never said Cora would be drooling.

 

Nobody said you did. The point being just, because you would be drooling wouldn’t mean by a long shot that Cora would too over the same prospect of prospects. Cora wants, and has wanted to win now.

[moonslav59]

Nobody knows what Cora was offered for a role in the FO, but either way I don’t think Cora is, or will be anytime soon. Brez in place now may have changed that.

 

Again, you did not answer.

 

Did Cora pull tge strings on the Brez hire?

[moonslav59]

Nobody said you did.

 

Yes I know.

 

I did not mean to imply Cora was drooling over prospects a year or two away. I do think he is aware of them and is likely encouraged by their promise.

 

Enough to put up with this crap another year or two? That is hard to know.

[Old Red]

Again, you did not answer.

 

Did Cora pull tge strings on the Brez hire?

 

I have no idea. Brez might have been way down on the list if not so many had said no to even an interview.

[Old Red]

Yes I know.

 

I did not mean to imply Cora was drooling over prospects a year or two away. I do think he is aware of them and is likely encouraged by their promise.

 

Enough to put up with this crap another year or two? That is hard to know.

Cora has been fed up for two years now, so I don’t think it is hard to know that he wouldn’t put up with another two especially after supposedly going full throttle this year after two losing last place finishes.

Edited December 23, 2023 by Old Red

[Bellhorn04]

Monty was not my first choice, but if we can get him plus Imanaga or Stroman, I’ll have a sliver of hope for 2024.

 

Hell, if they do that we'll all feel a lot better. That might be a team worth watching, plus it'd show they're still committed to trying.

[moonslav59]

I have no idea. Brez might have been way down on the list if not so many had said no to even an interview.

 

I must have misunderstood your position back then.

 

My bad.

[moonslav59]

Hell, if they do that we'll all feel a lot better. That might be a team worth watching, plus it'd show they're still committed to trying.

 

They basically have to nail Monty or Snell plus Imanaga or Stroman to even give a semblance of trying.

 

Certainly, “full throttle” was a sham.

[Randy Red Sox]

They basically have to nail Monty or Snell plus Imanaga or Stroman to even give a semblance of trying.

 

 

Certainly, “full throttle” was a sham.

 

James Paxton to the rescue

[moonslav59]

James Paxton to the rescue

 

Even Stroman, Imanaga and Paxton would be a sham.

 

Teoscar & Paxton is a kick in the nuts.

[harmony]

Even Stroman, Imanaga and Paxton would be a sham.

 

Teoscar & Paxton is a kick in the nuts.

Just today this poster thought Seattle should pursue James Paxton if the Mariners trade a starter for an impact bat.

[moonslav59]

Just today this poster thought Seattle should pursue James Paxton if the Mariners trade a starter for an impact bat.

 

He's not bad.

 

A better gamble than Severino or Montas, I guess.

 

As depth, okay, but this is not about that, I fear.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Even Stroman, Imanaga and Paxton would be a sham.

 

Teoscar & Paxton is a kick in the nuts.

 

We can only hope if Paxton returns and wins another Pitcher of the Month award next spring, that Breslow won't trade him at the deadline -- especially if the Sox are the fifth-best team in the AL East for the fourth time in half a decade.

[moonslav59]

We can only hope if Paxton returns and wins another Pitcher of the Month award next spring, that Breslow won't trade him at the deadline -- especially if the Sox are the fifth-best team in the AL East for the fourth time in half a decade.

 

History does repeat itself.

[Bellhorn04]

We can only hope if Paxton returns and wins another Pitcher of the Month award next spring, that Breslow won't trade him at the deadline -- especially if the Sox are the fifth-best team in the AL East for the fourth time in half a decade.

 

And I honestly wouldn't be shocked if someone outbids us for Paxton.

[notin]

And I honestly wouldn't be shocked if someone outbids us for Paxton.

 

I’d be relieved…

[Bellhorn04]

I’d be relieved…

 

Well, we do need to keep a lane open for Criswell...

[notin]

Well, we do need to keep a lane open for Criswell...

 

Which one will throw more MLB IP in 2024?

[moonslav59]

Which one will throw more MLB IP in 2024?

 

Maybe Campbell, Slaten and Mata.

[notin]

Maybe Campbell, Slaten and Mata.

 

Definitely not Mata…

[Bellhorn04]

Maybe Campbell, Slaten and Mata.

 

There you go. The Sox front office is using the Law of Diminishing Expectations on their fans, and it's working. We saw it last year when we were actually pleased with the Kluber signing...

[moonslav59]

Definitely not Mata…

 

That is a long shot, but these other two may not reach 25 IP.

[notin]

There you go. The Sox front office is using the Law of Diminishing Expectations on their fans, and it's working. We saw it last year when we were actually pleased with the Kluber signing...

 

To be fair, Kluber wasn’t so bad in 2022…

[notin]

That is a long shot, but these other two may not reach 25 IP.

 

They might be out 3-4 starters!!