Bloom fired

[mvp 78]

Do you think Cora was offered a move upstairs?

 

Not offered a move upstairs, offered a chance to be a part of the interviews. They weren't going to just hand him a role. If they said "hey, want the fake executive VP of baseball operations we gave to Brian?" He would have taken it. They wanted to know if he wanted a shot at the GM/CBO role, just a chance to interview for the position. To his credit, he said he wasn't ready. I think they like his communication skills and he could be good at the position at some point, but I have no idea what he is or is not ready for. He's FINE as a manager. He could be better as a CBO (at some point) or he could be much worse. We just don't know. He just doesn't know!

[Old Red]

My point was not about the article being right or wrong, and I know many people do not think Cora should be the manager, let alone promoted.

 

I'm not sure where you get the impression I don't know this.

 

You cat like those who disagree with you just need to know all the facts, and they'd "see the truth."

 

Where did I say the article or firings were not fact. The article exists and is a fact, and it was based on opinion based on someone's observations, which may or may not be biased. You agreed, and that may or not be nothing more than confirmation bias.

 

Why do you keep feeling the need to say the feelings here are not the same as "out there?"

 

Facts:

1. We all know there are more and differing opinions "out there."

2. Only you pretend to have your finger on the true pulse of Sox Nation.

 

Not everyone who has a different opinion is, because they are biased, but just has different views, and what matters to them might be a lot different from what matters to you. The here, and now of the WL record for example, and not what might be in 2026. I believe the WL record of the here, and now is what matters most to the players, and coaches too, and should.

I don’t claim to know the true pulse of Red Sox Nation only that there is more than one out there from the small sample size on here. The more places you go you learn that.

[Old Red]

Not offered a move upstairs, offered a chance to be a part of the interviews. They weren't going to just hand him a role. If they said "hey, want the fake executive VP of baseball operations we gave to Brian?" He would have taken it. They wanted to know if he wanted a shot at the GM/CBO role, just a chance to interview for the position. To his credit, he said he wasn't ready. I think they like his communication skills and he could be good at the position at some point, but I have no idea what he is or is not ready for. He's FINE as a manager. He could be better as a CBO (at some point) or he could be much worse. We just don't know. He just doesn't know!

 

OK I just thought that after he had the meeting with Tom, and JH, and he told them he wasn’t ready that they were actually thinking about doing that with him making more of the comings, and goings decisions, but someone else actually doing the negotiations, and dotting the I, and crossing the t’s.

[moonslav59]

Not everyone who has a different opinion is, because they are biased, but just has different views, and what matters to them might be a lot different from what matters to you. The here, and now of the WL record for example, and not what might be in 2026. I believe the WL record of the here, and now is what matters most to the players, and coaches too, and should.

I don’t claim to know the true pulse of Red Sox Nation only that there is more than one out there from the small sample size on here. The more places you go you learn that.

 

Yes, I said may or may not be biased. We agree.

 

Again, you repeat there are "more opinions out there," like we don't know, and by inference, you do.

 

This whole "go to more places" rant is offbase, too.

 

Just my biased opinion.

 

[mvp 78]

OK I just thought that after he had the meeting with Tom, and JH, and he told them he wasn’t ready that they were actually thinking about doing that with him making more of the comings, and goings decisions, but someone else actually doing the negotiations, and dotting the I, and crossing the t’s.

 

The CBO position is really overseeing the entire operation, not just selecting the players. Having the communications skills that Cora has would be great for that role. Does he currently "manage" his coaching staff and players well (not baseball performance wise)? I don't know. I think selecting players would really fall heavily on the GM and assistant GMs. Negotiations probably depend on the situation.

[Old Red]

The CBO position is really overseeing the entire operation, not just selecting the players. Having the communications skills that Cora has would be great for that role. Does he currently "manage" his coaching staff and players well (not baseball performance wise)? I don't know. I think selecting players would really fall heavily on the GM and assistant GMs. Negotiations probably depend on the situation.

 

I wasn’t thinking that JH offered Cora to be the head guy, but maybe like an assistant GM. Anyway now we wait, and see what happens. I’m still leaning more of an inside job then going with an outsider.

[moonslav59]

I wasn’t thinking that JH offered Cora to be the head guy, but maybe like an assistant GM. Anyway now we wait, and see what happens. I’m still leaning more of an inside job then going with an outsider.

 

If they only had an official title "Right Hand Man."

[mvp 78]

If they only had an official title "Right Hand Man."

 

Coffee Boy.

[Old Red]

Coffee Boy.

 

That’s Sam’s job.

[dgalehouse]

The team needs more " special assistants. " Also known as hangers-on with no real duties.

[moonslav59]

Coffee Boy.

 

I thought that was the "left hand man."

[mvp 78]

I thought that was the "left hand man."

 

You're thinking of the Left Hand Path.

[moonslav59]

You're thinking of the Left Hand Path.

 

Don't tell me what I'm thinking!

 

[Oscars]

Eovaldi’s 2023 post season performances are sure making Bloom look like a terrible decision maker.

[moonslav59]

Eovaldi’s 2023 post season performances are sure making Bloom look like a terrible decision maker.

 

For offering him more than Texas did?

[Oscars]

For not doing what it took to sign him.

Bloom’s 2023 rotation was abysmal.

[moonslav59]

For not doing what it took to sign him.

 

You never said a word, at the time.

[Oscars]

You never said a word, at the time.

 

Hmm.

Maybe because I didn’t work for the Red Sox baseball ops team, and I didn’t know they were going to replace him with the corpse of Corey Kluber .

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Nathan Eovaldi is just being himself in the postseason. What he continues to accomplish shouldn't surprise any Red Sox fans... just like the label "injury-risk" -- which can be used for every single person who pitches baseballs for a living.

 

But there is a difference between a guy who's oft-injured from someone "on the IL." As in: signing a pitcher and waiting a year-and-a-half for him to rehab, before he can finally play his first game... and then pitch great for a month, before he inevitably lands back "on the IL."

[Bellhorn04]

For offering him more than Texas did?

 

For not signing him when Nate came back looking for that offer a second time.

 

But again I guess you can blame Henry's penny-pinching budget just as much.

[notin]

For not signing him when Nate came back looking for that offer a second time.

 

But again I guess you can blame Henry's penny-pinching budget just as much.

 

I don’t know how that all really went down. The Texas offer also has lots of incentives that made it look

good…

Edited October 11, 2023 by notin

[Bellhorn04]

I don’t know how that all really went down. The Texas offer also has lots of incentives that made out let good…

 

Regardless, he was easily signable. Injury risk goes without saying. But he was easily signable.

[Bellhorn04]

Allegedly, when Nate came back looking for that initial offer a second time Chaim said he was sorry but the money was spent!

 

Such was Chaim's fatal final offseason.

[notin]

Allegedly, when Nate came back looking for that initial offer a second time Chaim said he was sorry but the money was spent!

 

Such was Chaim's fatal final offseason.

 

Spent on who?

[notin]

For not doing what it took to sign him.

Bloom’s 2023 rotation was abysmal.

 

If Bloom offered more than Texas did, what else was abloom supposed to do? Make sweet love to Eovaldi?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Spent on who?

 

Just a worn-out bill, crinkly, stuck in a dungaree pocket, sopped from wading into a trout brook to dislodge a rooster tail snagged on an overhanging branch of mountain laurel.

[Bellhorn04]

Spent on who?

 

On the guys he signed. There was only $10 mill left in Lowball Johnny's budget.

[Bellhorn04]

If Bloom offered more than Texas did, what else was abloom supposed to do? Make sweet love to Eovaldi?

 

No, Eovaldi came back and said I'll take that offer now. Did Bloom have no option but to decline?

[notin]

No, Eovaldi came back and said I'll take that offer now. Did Bloom have no option but to decline?

 

 

Again, not sure. The offer has never been reported. Eovaldi signed in December, so no idea who his money was spent on…

[notin]

On the guys he signed. There was only $10 mill left in Lowball Johnny's budget.

 

And that $10mill was spent on Justin Turner, Kenley Jansen, Chris Martin, Adam Duvall and Corey Kluber.

 

Or, crazy thought here, your source’s story has some holes…