Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[moonslav59]

I think I'd rather have Castillo.

 

I wanted him when SEA traded for him.

 

I guess he has a no trade clause, but I'd kick the tires on him.

 

These one year and done pitchers scare the bejesus out of me.

[Bellhorn04]

I can't see Seattle trading Castillo. That was a big trade they made for him, he signed a reasonable contract, and he had another solid season. He's been consistent and durable. If that isn't a guy you keep, you're probably in tank mode.

[harmony]

I think I'd rather have Castillo.

So would the Mariners but Luis Castillo could help Seattle land a productive bat (when free agent hitters are reluctant to sign with the M's).

[Bellhorn04]

So would the Mariners but Luis Castillo could help Seattle land a productive bat (when free agent hitters are reluctant to sign with the M's).

 

I will defer to your Mariners expertise on this.

[harmony]

I will defer to your Mariners expertise on this.

No one should defer to this poster's expertise.

 

On anything.

[notin]

I can't see Seattle trading Castillo. That was a big trade they made for him, he signed a reasonable contract, and he had another solid season. He's been consistent and durable. If that isn't a guy you keep, you're probably in tank mode.

 

 

BTV gives Castillo roughly the same value as Kyle Teel. Probably fair, but would Seattle even be interested?

[harmony]

BTV gives Castillo roughly the same value as Kyle Teel. Probably fair, but would Seattle even be interested?

In the unlikely event Luis Castillo is traded, Seattle would want an immediate impact bat with multiple years of team control.

 

Kyle Teel's highest value comes at catcher where the Mariners have four more years of 27-year-old Cal Raleigh, who this year ranked third among all catchers with 4.7 fWAR (and third over the past two seasons at 8.8 fWAR).

[moonslav59]

In the unlikely event Luis Castillo is traded, Seattle would want an immediate impact bat with multiple years of team control.

 

Kyle Teel's highest value comes at catcher where the Mariners have four more years of 27-year-old Cal Raleigh, who this year ranked third among all catchers with 4.7 fWAR (and third over the past two seasons at 8.8 fWAR).

 

They probably would not want Duran, despite the higher BTV score.

 

Duran, EValdez and the best non 40 man pitcher in our system you want for Castillo.

[moonslav59]

Mahle signs, despite being expected to miss the start or '24, for $22M/2 w TEX. ($5M in bonuses can be made.)

[harmony]

They probably would not want Duran, despite the higher BTV score.

 

Duran, EValdez and the best non 40 man pitcher in our system you want for Castillo.

FanGraphs and Steamer project 27-year-old Jarren Duran with 2024 wRC+ and WAR of 98 and 1.3 in 128 games:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarren-duran/24617/stats?position=OF

 

Duran this year finally posted a productive partial season after posting a negative 0.4 in each of the previous two years.

 

Seattle is unlikely to have interest.

[moonslav59]

FanGraphs and Steamer project 27-year-old Jarren Duran with 2024 wRC+ and WAR of 98 and 1.3 in 128 games:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarren-duran/24617/stats?position=OF

 

Duran this year finally posted a productive partial season after posting a negative 0.4 in each of the previous two years.

 

Seattle is unlikely to have interest.

 

I disagree.

 

I'm just not sure they "want him" that much.

[notin]

FanGraphs and Steamer project 27-year-old Jarren Duran with 2024 wRC+ and WAR of 98 and 1.3 in 128 games:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarren-duran/24617/stats?position=OF

 

Duran this year finally posted a productive partial season after posting a negative 0.4 in each of the previous two years.

 

Seattle is unlikely to have interest.

 

 

His WAR will get bigger if Seattle plays him in more games…

[moonslav59]

Flaherty to DET for $14M/1.

[notin]

Glasnow is a Dodger…

[moonslav59]

Glasnow is a Dodger…

 

Extension pending

[Randy Red Sox]

Glasnow is a Dodger…

 

could be good for us. May take LA out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes now

[d-money]

I’m just curious to know what the red sox are doing here. It has been an uneventful offseason thus far How long is this rebuild?

[d-money]

could be good for us. May take LA out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes now

 

You know they will get outbid by someone

[vjcsmoke]

It's happening! The Red Sox reportedly are meeting with Yamamoto!

 

They might have to shell out a 300m dollar contract to bring him home to Boston, but I say do it, just don't let him leave town!

 

Also you have a fellow japanese player in Yoshida, leverage him to convince Yamamoto to sign on the dotted line!

 

The stars are lined up... can Breslow get the job done in possibly his biggest move of his early tenure with the Red Sox?

[vjcsmoke]

FanGraphs and Steamer project 27-year-old Jarren Duran with 2024 wRC+ and WAR of 98 and 1.3 in 128 games:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jarren-duran/24617/stats?position=OF

 

Duran this year finally posted a productive partial season after posting a negative 0.4 in each of the previous two years.

 

Seattle is unlikely to have interest.

 

Speaking of Fangraphs here's what they had to say about Yamamoto:

 

Team Rank: N/A Overall Rank: 2 ETA: 2024

 

Fastball Slider Curveball Splitter Cutter Command FV

60 / 60 45 / 55 60 / 60 70 / 70 45 / 50 80 / 80 65

 

Prospects TLDR: Elite command and a deep, well-rounded repertoire drive Yamamoto's top-of-the-rotation profile. He's a ROY and Cy Young threat.

 

I really hope we get this guy now that we're talking to him and his agent.

 

Fangraphs link: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/yoshinobu-yamamoto/sa3023345/stats?position=P

[notin]

could be good for us. May take LA out of the Yamamoto sweepstakes now

 

Like how Ohtani took them out of the Glasnow sweepstakes?

[notin]

It's happening! The Red Sox reportedly are meeting with Yamamoto!

 

They might have to shell out a 300m dollar contract to bring him home to Boston, but I say do it, just don't let him leave town!

 

Also you have a fellow japanese player in Yoshida, leverage him to convince Yamamoto to sign on the dotted line!

 

The stars are lined up... can Breslow get the job done in possibly his biggest move of his early tenure with the Red Sox?

 

You’re salivating…

[moonslav59]

The Dodgers made the Rays pay $4M.

 

I do think they might be out of the Yamo race, but who knows.

 

NYY-BOS-NYM-TOR?

 

 

[vjcsmoke]

You’re salivating…

 

That's true. It's like when you've had nothing but salisbury 'faux' steak for years and now you have a chance to get the filet mignon!

 

Seriously the Red Sox need a top of the rotation pitcher in a bad way and here comes Yamamoto in his prime age 25 to offer us a solution.

 

Remember when it was fun to watch a Red Sox "Ace" pitcher and you knew that on those days you pretty much had the win in the bag because he was going to dominate the opposing lineup? I remember those days, it was a long time ago but they existed.

[jad]

Like how Ohtani took them out of the Glasnow sweepstakes?

 

Yup!

[Larry Cook]

The other Japanese pitcher, imanaga should be where we are looking. His stuff is excellent, and the market not as fierce. Best to try to lock him up before the other losers of the Yamamoto lottery cone after him

[moonslav59]

The other Japanese pitcher, imanaga should be where we are looking. His stuff is excellent, and the market not as fierce. Best to try to lock him up before the other losers of the Yamamoto lottery cone after him

 

Sounds good, in theory, but why wouldn’t he wait?

We’d have to be blowing others away with an offer for him to jump the Yamo signing.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Sounds good, in theory, but why wouldn’t he wait?

We’d have to be blowing others away with an offer for him to jump the Yamo signing.

 

Chaim would make him a Yoshida he couldn't refuse...

 

But regarding the Yamamoto meetings, smoke needs some editing when it comes to celestial bodies:

 

In LA, stars are always aligned. In Boston in the early 2020s, the asteroids are maligned.

[Hugh2]

It's happening! The Red Sox reportedly are meeting with Yamamoto!

 

They might have to shell out a 300m dollar contract to bring him home to Boston, but I say do it, just don't let him leave town!

 

Also you have a fellow japanese player in Yoshida, leverage him to convince Yamamoto to sign on the dotted line!

 

The stars are lined up... can Breslow get the job done in possibly his biggest move of his early tenure with the Red Sox?

 

If John Henry did have a christmas grinch like moment and his balls grew back ten times their size and he rememebed they are the Boston Red SOX then I find it very encouraging that the Sox stratetically planned on meeting with Yamamoto last.

[moonslav59]

If John Henry did have a christmas grinch like moment and his balls grew back ten times their size and he rememebed they are the Boston Red SOX then I find it very encouraging that the Sox stratetically planned on meeting with Yamamoto last.

 

Going last puts pressure on making a presentation that beats everyone else's. Maybe not just the money, but pulling out all the stops to make the player feel like he is the top priority.

 

They have to match or exceed the one that has impressed him, before coming to meet with BOS. I hope we are up to the task.