Yankees 2023 Season Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

It's ridiculous to arbitrarily choose the last 2 years and discard any meaning to the last 3,4, 5, or 6 years.

 

You know damn well, many players have brief (from 1 month to 2 years) moments of glory and health.

 

Plus, you act like 310 IP in these last 2 years is something to be wow'd by.

 

It's NOT!

 

There is a real chance he gets hurt, again, or moves his performance level back towards his pre-2021 years.

 

BTW, you do know Paxton had exactly 310 IP from 2018 to 2019, but people still knew he was injury prone, including you.

 

Why is this any different?

 

You just want to believe he won't get hurt.

 

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing you've ever written

[moonslav59]

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing you've ever written

 

You talked about how injury prone Paxton was after pitching 310 innings the previous two seasons, right?

 

Am I lying?

 

What is so different about Rodon, now than Paxton after 2019?

 

Honestly, are you impressed by Rodon's 310 IP, in the last 2 seasons' combined (not his performance but the IP total?)

 

Are you confident he goes 155 IP, this year, or next? (310/2)

 

It's dumb to bring it up? It's the dumbest thing I ever brought UP? (Come on! I once called Wil Middlebrooks "Wil-da-beast!")

 

LMAO!

 

[notin]

You talked about how injury prone Paxton was after pitching 310 innings the previous two seasons, right?

 

Am I lying?

 

What is so different about Rodon, now than Paxton after 2019?

 

Honestly, are you impressed by Rodon's 310 IP, in the last 2 seasons' combined (not his performance but the IP total?)

 

Are you confident he goes 155 IP, this year, or next? (310/2)

 

It's dumb to bring it up? It's the dumbest thing I ever brought UP? (Come on! I once called Wil Middlebrooks "Wil-da-beast!")

 

LMAO!

 

 

The difference in actual talent between Rodon and Paxton really isn’t that much. Both have significant injury histories. Rodon just timed his healthier seasons better for a big payday.

 

But that both of them got hurt quickly this off-season carries the same level of surprise as a daily sunrise…

Edited March 11, 2023 by notin

[jacksonianmarch]

The stupidity on this thread is deafening

 

1. Paxton is 4 years older than Rodon.

2. Rodon made 55 starts the last 2 seasons, Paxton made 1

3. Paxton has made a total of 6 starts the last 3 years combined

4. Paxton is coming off back and elbow surgeries since he last pitched a full season

 

Guys, one player (Paxton) is probably in his final season in the majors. The other is a guy who had a CY voted on season last year. Paxton has had major injuries as has Rodon. But Paxton continues to have minor muscular ailments keeping him off the field. He is a broken down old horse. Rodon, as long as he escapes major injury with this elbow issue, should be expected to have a solid year. But that is still in question

[jacksonianmarch]

Now Bader is down for the first 3 weeks of the season. He wants a Yankee extension. Kid needs to stay on the field after he comes back

We do have depth, although the quality of it is in question. Judge likely slides back to CF. Cabrera now cements his spot in LF. We will need someone in RF for the first few weeks. They keep talking about Stanton in RF. f*** that. The guy is a walking injury. He is a DH, that is it. I would consider Dominguez for a cup of coffee and see if he can parlay a good spring into a good start. I would also consider Hicks as a last gasp option. Calhoun and Ortega are showing well in camp apparently. I have always liked Calhoun from afar. Guy comes up, crushes it as a rookie. Gets hurt, gets caught in a roster squeeze and then gets pissed at his service time manipulation. The big question is, did his injury leave him as damaged goods or is he the next Urshela we pull off the scrap heap who turns into a good player?

[Bellhorn04]

The stupidity on this thread is deafening

 

1. Paxton is 4 years older than Rodon.

2. Rodon made 55 starts the last 2 seasons, Paxton made 1

3. Paxton has made a total of 6 starts the last 3 years combined

4. Paxton is coming off back and elbow surgeries since he last pitched a full season

 

Guys, one player (Paxton) is probably in his final season in the majors. The other is a guy who had a CY voted on season last year. Paxton has had major injuries as has Rodon. But Paxton continues to have minor muscular ailments keeping him off the field. He is a broken down old horse. Rodon, as long as he escapes major injury with this elbow issue, should be expected to have a solid year. But that is still in question

 

The real point was that Rodon's year by year innings log tells us he can't be considered a bastion of health...

[jacksonianmarch]

Never said he was

[notin]

The stupidity on this thread is deafening

 

1. Paxton is 4 years older than Rodon.

2. Rodon made 55 starts the last 2 seasons, Paxton made 1

3. Paxton has made a total of 6 starts the last 3 years combined

4. Paxton is coming off back and elbow surgeries since he last pitched a full season

 

Guys, one player (Paxton) is probably in his final season in the majors. The other is a guy who had a CY voted on season last year. Paxton has had major injuries as has Rodon. But Paxton continues to have minor muscular ailments keeping him off the field. He is a broken down old horse. Rodon, as long as he escapes major injury with this elbow issue, should be expected to have a solid year. But that is still in question

 

 

The point is Rodon has pitched in parts of 8 seasons, and seen 5 of them cut short by injury. That he went two years without maiming himself doesn’t mean that is all behind him. (In fact, I think he actually finished 2021 injured.)

 

I pointed out all off-season before the Yankees signed him that Rodon was a major health risk. (As if this was news.) Not sure why anyone would find this surprising.

 

The injuries to Bader and Trivino surprised me. Rodon? Not at all.

 

And I won’t be surprised if Severino gets hurt either. Nor Sale. Nor Kluber…

Edited March 12, 2023 by notin

[notin]

Now Bader is down for the first 3 weeks of the season. He wants a Yankee extension. Kid needs to stay on the field after he comes back

We do have depth, although the quality of it is in question. Judge likely slides back to CF. Cabrera now cements his spot in LF. We will need someone in RF for the first few weeks. They keep talking about Stanton in RF. f*** that. The guy is a walking injury. He is a DH, that is it. I would consider Dominguez for a cup of coffee and see if he can parlay a good spring into a good start. I would also consider Hicks as a last gasp option. Calhoun and Ortega are showing well in camp apparently. I have always liked Calhoun from afar. Guy comes up, crushes it as a rookie. Gets hurt, gets caught in a roster squeeze and then gets pissed at his service time manipulation. The big question is, did his injury leave him as damaged goods or is he the next Urshela we pull off the scrap heap who turns into a good player?

 

I think it just means 3 weeks of Hicks. The Yankees aren’t adding Dominguez to the 40 man roster, starting his service time, and burning an option year to avoid their $10mill backup outfielder…

[jacksonianmarch]

And Rizzo's balky back is acting up again. Can anyone stay healthy?

[mvp 78]

Overall, this team should be even better with the more balanced schedule. The AL East was a buzzsaw and they won 99 games. They should eclipse 100 with the other divisions having very little depth and the Yanks not seeing their own division as much. The biggest question will come in the POs. Can the team arrive there with their stars not banged up. Can they have some jobs be taken by hot shot kids. Can they hit now that the shift is dead? Can they make enough contact against dominant pitchers? Lots of questions, but still should be a good year for the boys in the Bronx. Go Yanks

 

Needs to be changed to "can the team arrive to Opening Day with a functioning 26 man roster?"

[jacksonianmarch]

Needs to be changed to "can the team arrive to Opening Day with a functioning 26 man roster?"

 

I hope they're getting it out of the way now. They're deep enough to handle some of the losses, but invariably some of the replacements will get hurt and we will be up s***'s creek

[mvp 78]

I hope they're getting it out of the way now. They're deep enough to handle some of the losses, but invariably some of the replacements will get hurt and we will be up s***'s creek

 

Do you think Aaron Judge is successfully beyond the injury prone label? You expect 4-5 reasonably healthy years unless there's some really fluky injury?

 

I'm not a Gerrit Cole fan, but at least that guy is a horse. Yankees may be the only team in the East with a true anchor in the rotation (Manoah is young and his xFIP shows room for regression, McClanahan hasn't pitched a full season).

[mvp 78]

@stephapstein

I went to journalism school so I could provide you with this exclusive exposé: The Yankees charge their players for internet on the team plane.

 

“It’s your fault,” they tell one another. “Your contract is too big, so they can’t pay for the Wi-Fi.”

[Bellhorn04]

@stephapstein

I went to journalism school so I could provide you with this exclusive exposé: The Yankees charge their players for internet on the team plane.

 

“It’s your fault,” they tell one another. “Your contract is too big, so they can’t pay for the Wi-Fi.”

 

Silly story, but good for a few chuckles.

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/03/15/yankees-no-in-flight-internet

[mvp 78]

Silly story, but good for a few chuckles.

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/2023/03/15/yankees-no-in-flight-internet

 

The only other team to charge their players for WiFi: the Cincinnati Reds. Good company to have.

[jacksonianmarch]

Volpe, Peraza and Dominguez are tearing it up. I think Peraza wins the SS job. It looks like they're turning IKF into the super sub since their super sub is gonna win the LF job (Cabrera). Volpe deserves better, but Peraza is ahead of him and is gonna be a good one. I would not mind seeing a mid season deal moving Torres so we can bring up Volpe for 2b

[notin]

@stephapstein

I went to journalism school so I could provide you with this exclusive exposé: The Yankees charge their players for internet on the team plane.

 

“It’s your fault,” they tell one another. “Your contract is too big, so they can’t pay for the Wi-Fi.”

 

Hey at least they didn’t cut the dental plan for the accounting office again…

[Bellhorn04]

Hey at least they didn’t cut the dental plan for the accounting office again…

 

The Wi-Fi thing is just a way for the team to recoup the extra money it has to spend on players' haircuts and shaves.

[notin]

The Wi-Fi thing is just a way for the team to recoup the extra money it has to spend on players' haircuts and shaves.

 

What they need are WiFi-enabled electric razors…

[jacksonianmarch]

Looks like one of the kids won the OD SS job. Intrigued to see which one

[moonslav59]

The stupidity on this thread is deafening

 

1. Paxton is 4 years older than Rodon.

2. Rodon made 55 starts the last 2 seasons, Paxton made 1

3. Paxton has made a total of 6 starts the last 3 years combined

4. Paxton is coming off back and elbow surgeries since he last pitched a full season

 

Guys, one player (Paxton) is probably in his final season in the majors. The other is a guy who had a CY voted on season last year. Paxton has had major injuries as has Rodon. But Paxton continues to have minor muscular ailments keeping him off the field. He is a broken down old horse. Rodon, as long as he escapes major injury with this elbow issue, should be expected to have a solid year. But that is still in question

 

You missed the part where I said Rodon is where Paxton was 3-4 years ago, when you were calling Paxton injury prone, even as a Yankee!

[jacksonianmarch]

You missed the part where I said Rodon is where Paxton was 3-4 years ago, when you were calling Paxton injury prone, even as a Yankee!

 

Rodon has been injury prone. But to say he is heading down Paxton's path is pretty dumb right now. Paxton literally fell apart.

[Bellhorn04]

Rodon has been injury prone. But to say he is heading down Paxton's path is pretty dumb right now. Paxton literally fell apart.

 

Yes, the comparison is silly in many ways. The Sox risked $10 million on Paxton. The Yankees risked $162 million on Rodon.

[moonslav59]

Rodon has been injury prone. But to say he is heading down Paxton's path is pretty dumb right now. Paxton literally fell apart.

 

I never said he was heading down his path. I said they had very similar histories when both were 28-30 years old. Both show(ed) promise, but have/had recent injury issues.

 

Paxton actually had 3 years in a row over 120 IP before joining the Yanks for the 2019 season, when he went 160 IP. You called him unreliable, back then.

 

Rodon is at age 30, now. he has 310 IP over the last 2 years. Paxton had 296. Rodon only has 2 seasons over 120+ IP since 2018- Paxton had 3 in a row at age 30. That's all I'm saying.

 

They had similar injury histories by age 29-30, and you called one injury prone and had little hope Paxton could stay healthy after age 30, but with Rodon, you have much higher expectations.

 

Yes, there is merit to thinking 310 IP over the last 2 seasons is promising, but Paxton had very close to that at a similar time in their age progressions and injury histories. it's undeniable and far from "dumb" to compare the two.

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Volpe with a legit chance to be opening day SS.

[bkzwhitestrican]

And Sevy to start the season on the IL with a low grade lat strain. Accounting for setbacks in rehab he should be ready to pitch out of the bullpen by September

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

And Sevy to start the season on the IL with a low grade lat strain. Accounting for setbacks in rehab he should be ready to pitch out of the bullpen by September

 

Every starter in the rotation except Cole has already had health issues, they're starting a rookie at the most important position behind the mound, and they're World Series favorites? Ok...

[notin]

Volpe with a legit chance to be opening day SS.

 

Calling it out as not happening. Unless all the other SS candidates in front of him get converted to SP in order to backfill the rotation…

[notin]

Every starter in the rotation except Cole has already had health issues, they're starting a rookie at the most important position behind the mound, and they're World Series favorites? Ok...

 

A lot of that is more because of the annual volume of bets folks place on them and not really the quality of the team. Much like with the Cubs…