A Realistic View at 2023: Part I

[Bellhorn04]

This could be the only way we go "all out," this year.

 

Is "going all out" pretty much the same as "going all in"?

[Old Red]

Is "going all out" pretty much the same as "going all in"?

 

We can’t do that! We have to wait for 2-3 more years.

[mvp 78]

We can’t do that! We have to wait for 2-3 more years.

 

We're waiting until 2026 now?

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

In his Red Sox notebook today, @alexspeier is reporting that when Eric Hosmer was traded to the Red Sox, a contract provision kicked in that now gives him full no-trade protection.

[Old Red]

We're waiting until 2026 now?

 

Not me, but some are OK with that.

[mvp 78]

Not me, but some are OK with that.

 

I've not seen that date listed anywhere.

[Old Red]

I've not seen that date listed anywhere.

 

Standing order.

[notin]

Don't.

 

No referring to myself in third person?

[mvp 78]

No referring to myself in third person?

 

MVP doesn't do it, why would notin do it?

[moonslav59]

@redsoxstats

In his Red Sox notebook today, @alexspeier is reporting that when Eric Hosmer was traded to the Red Sox, a contract provision kicked in that now gives him full no-trade protection.

 

He might agree to a trade, if he knows he will be on the bench, or we might just DFA him, as notin wants us to do.

[notin]

MVP doesn't do it, why would notin do it?

 

So people can differentiate MVP from Notin?

[moonslav59]

So people can differentiate MVP from Notin?

 

I've often wondered, if you two were the same poster.

[mvp 78]

Moon often wondered, if you two were the same poster.

 

MVP doesn't believe this is true at all.

[moonslav59]

MVP doesn't believe this is true at all.

 

That's why it was in green.

[mvp 78]

He might agree to a trade, if he knows he will be on the bench, or we might just DFA him, as notin wants us to do.

 

Per @redsoxstats, his luxury tax is only approximately $700k currently shown as adjusted on Spotrac. If they DFA'd him, it's not big deal.

[moonslav59]

Per @redsoxstats, his luxury tax is only approximately $700k currently shown as adjusted on Spotrac. If they DFA'd him, it's not big deal.

 

True, and if he's replaced by a min pay guy, it's no change, at all.

[Nick]

But he and super agent Scott Boras will want fair market value in free agency this offseason after signing a team-friendly contract in 2019.

 

Fair Market Value is what the willing buyer (Sox) and the willing seller (Xander) agrees to. You can get million data on real estate transaction for a neighborhood but if the buyer is unwilling to meet the relative value of sold homes, then you have no deal.

 

Stop, putting up what other shortstops received in the last 12 months. Sox has a price range as do Xander. Let's hope they overlap.

[Nick]

I will again sign up for the major league package next year. Best value buy in my opinion.

 

I did not stop my subscription when Betts was traded. I won't stop if Xander doesn't come back.

 

I'll enjoy watching Bello and Casas next year.

 

I am a Red Sox fan and a fan of Sox players.

[notin]

MVP doesn't believe this is true at all.

 

MVP is taller, but Notin is more handsome…

[cp176]

MVP is taller, but Notin is more handsome…

 

really - two knuckle heads - tolerable but still knuckle heads lol

[mvp 78]

MVP is taller, but Notin is more handsome…

 

Well, the average male height is 5'6" and MVP is definitely taller than that. Only YOTN could really confirm how tall MVP actually is, unless MVP was wearing lifts that day.

[moonslav59]

I will again sign up for the major league package next year. Best value buy in my opinion.

 

I did not stop my subscription when Betts was traded. I won't stop if Xander doesn't come back.

 

I'll enjoy watching Bello and Casas next year.

 

I am a Red Sox fan and a fan of Sox players.

 

A true Sox fan.

 

I'm with you 100%.

 

I'm pretty sure many of our younger players will struggle of fizzle out into obscurity, but with so many coming up in the next few months, I'm pretty certain quite a few will shine and some will fill some lesser, yet important roles on our team going forward.

 

Bello

Casas

Rafaela (late '23?)

Mata (mid '23)

Walter (late '23)

 

Wong

Kelly

German

E Valdez (mid '23)

Murphy (mid '23)

TWard (late '23)

R Hernandez

 

Bazardo

Winckowski

Seabold

Duran

Downs

 

2024?

Mayer

Yorke

Lugo

Kavadas

Abreu

Drohan

Binelas, Koss, Hamilton, Politi, Wallace, Granberg

[notin]

really - two knuckle heads - tolerable but still knuckle heads lol

 

But we’re all in agreement I’m the more handsome knucklehead…

[mvp 78]

But we’re all in agreement I’m the more handsome knucklehead…

 

Vanity doesn't suit MVP.

[cp176]

Vanity doesn't suit MVP.

 

Is this Ricky Henderson or mvp?

[mvp 78]

Is this Ricky Henderson or mvp?

 

Ricky was the greatest. MVP is the greatest poster.

[moonslav59]

Ricky was the greatest. MVP is the greatest poster.

 

Both in their own minds.

[notin]

Both in their own minds.

 

I do agree with him that Rickey was absolutely among the greatest players of all time.

 

Until Bonds passed him, Rickey was briefly the all time MLB leader in 3 categories (stolen bases, runs and walks). The list of players who were the all time leaders in 3 categories is pretty small…

[moonslav59]

I do agree with him that Rickey was absolutely among the greatest players of all time.

 

Until Bonds passed him, Rickey was briefly the all time MLB leader in 3 categories (stolen bases, runs and walks). The list of players who were the all time leaders in 3 categories is pretty small…

 

He's not in my top 10, but in his own mind, he's top 1.

[notin]

He's not in my top 10, but in his own mind, he's top 1.

 

I’d put him in the top 10, non-pitcher category…