Fire Bloom .

[JDavis76]

This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read on this site, and that's saying something

 

Just when you think that swi couldn't top himself!

[Swiharts Ghost]

Chaim is on the phone now to Detroit and Miggy and a very very decent High A prospect in return MFs Everyyyyy body gets a MF pillow !!! You get pillow dipshit you get a pillow dumbass Lol Yikes

[MADSTORK]

JBJ .....Bobby D ......Brasier .....Barnes ......trading Hunter .....Making franchy an everyday 1b ....jettisoned Kyle ...Failed to address Rotation beyond a 100 year old Rich hill and a Human DL stint Paxton ? ....questions ? Why after 20 starter losses in July wasn’t the issue traded for ? Why after the realization that Bobby D and Franchy are horrific everyday players wasn’t first base traded for ? Don’t sell me on waiting for Casas because he was hurt too .I am tired of this fan base uttering the words Bloom has done good ....How ? Worst trade in the history of Redsox besides Babe Ruth ? Setting this team back atleast 5 years .Bloom is destroying this team .

 

Don’t stop my friend your on a great roll called the truth…

[MADSTORK]

I, for one, have always felt like most of my positions and ideas are unpopular to most posters.

 

Your a loyal fan, I respect that

 

Like I said, 21 team needed a 1B and a closer, Orlando could have easily done that while picking up the SP scrubs but he didn’t he tried to get creative with Renfro and Story, it backfired

 

If the Roster was set and injury occurs or the team just sucks so be it. You move on to the next season

 

Every trade has backfired, Story ? Bullpen scrubs to include Barnes ext is ridiculous

 

You cannot justify these moves, you can’t !

[MADSTORK]

So we want yo fire the GM that put a team together that led 2-1 in ALC?

 

Did you just wake up?

[a700hitter]

I don't think Bloom got lulled into anything. His priority is still long term sustainability. In the meantime, he is putting together contending teams without going "all in". It worked very well last year. This year, not so much. Most of the success, or lack thereof, is related to how healthy the two teams have been.

 

If we were playing at mostly full health, I'm willing to bet we would still be leading the wildcard race. At the very least, we'd be one of the 3 wildcard teams.

 

I am not at all unhappy with what Bloom did this past offseason, outside of not adding another outfielder. That didn't make much sense to me.

Is below .500 and last place part of a “sustainability plan”?

[Swiharts Ghost]

Don’t stop my friend your on a great roll called the truth…

 

Never Bro !!! I can see Bloom Trading JD for a high A pitcher and Miggy and Moon and Company thinking it’s incredible.I can also say that Blooms a sack of s*** who let this team implode and let a pitching staff go to rubble and don’t do s*** about it so I’ll throw out as many outlandish f***ing trades I want too ...it makes me feel good .f*** Bloom and his merry Men here

Edited August 1, 2022 by Swiharts Ghost

[a700hitter]

Or a team with no wins by a starting pitcher. What pct was 10-19?

When healthy during that period they played at a .345 pace. That isn’t going to make the post season in any year.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Can Aledmys Diaz play 1b ? Kid has experience in postseason and knows the division playing in Toronto .I think he’s owed 4 million this year .Pull hitter uppercut swing but weirdly looks like Greenwell with the follow through.Can play 3b SS 2b so I’m reaching a bit on 1st but if we are trading Vaz to Houston that may be A guy Cora May know ? Not sure looks like he arrived in 18 but Cora likely keeps up with the guys .

[JDavis76]

Can Aledmys Diaz play 1b ? Kid has experience in postseason and knows the division playing in Toronto .I think he’s owed 4 million this year .Pull hitter uppercut swing but weirdly looks like Greenwell with the follow through.Can play 3b SS 2b so I’m reaching a bit on 1st but if we are trading Vaz to Houston that may be A guy Cora May know ? Not sure looks like he arrived in 18 but Cora likely keeps up with the guys .

 

diaz played for toronto in 2018.

 

So, yeah, I'm sure cora has "kept up" with a guy he probably doesn't even know.

 

SMH.........

[notin]

diaz played for toronto in 2018.

 

So, yeah, I'm sure cora has "kept up" with a guy he probably doesn't even know.

 

SMH.........

 

 

Gee you spotted the only flaw with that post…

[JDavis76]

Gee you spotted the only flaw with that post…

 

Not quite sure it's the only one.....

[Old Red]

B L O O M has taken Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe, and turned them into Dugy, Franchy, and JBJ. How has that made the Red Sox better. News Flash! It hasn’t.

[Bellhorn04]

B L O O M has taken Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe, and turned them into Dugy, Franchy, and JBJ. How has that made the Red Sox better. News Flash! It hasn’t.

 

We only had Mookie for one more year.

 

We also got Winckowski for Beni.

 

You knew these things right?

[Old Red]

We only had Mookie for one more year.

 

We also got Winckowski for Beni.

 

You knew these things right?

 

Yes I knew it all, but still the bottom line is that the Red Sox are worse off, and the bottom line is Dugy replaced Mookie. Spin all you want, but still the Red Sox are worse off.

[notin]

Yes I knew it all, but still the bottom line is that the Red Sox are worse off, and the bottom line is Dugy replaced Mookie. Spin all you want, but still the Red Sox are worse off.

 

But they’d be even more worse off if they held Mookie for one more 60 game season and then saw him walk to free agency.

 

And Winckowski is making a good argument that 6 season of him is better than 2 season of Benintendi would have been…

[JDavis76]

But they’d be even more worse off if they held Mookie for one more 60 game season and then saw him walk to free agency…

 

Or they could have ponied up some cash and signed him.

[notin]

Or they could have ponied up some cash and signed him.

 

 

The most free-spending GM in team history couldn’t lock him up. Nothing that Mookie (or more accurately, Mookie’s agent) said at the time indicated this was going to be possible except in an extremely cost-prohibitive way.

 

And even then, had the Sox extended Mookie, Bogaerts would have left after 2019. So it comes down to Betts vs Bogaerts and Verdugo. That’s not a slam dunk either way IMO…

[Old Red]

But they’d be even more worse off if they held Mookie for one more 60 game season and then saw him walk to free agency.

 

And Winckowski is making a good argument that 6 season of him is better than 2 season of Benintendi would have been…

 

My main point has been all along has been Bloom could have done a better job in replacing Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe. If your’re happy with Bloom, and think he’s a boy wonder then good for you, but i on the other hand am not, and think of Bloom is being more of a Boy Blunder. Different opinions from a different way at looking at things.

[Elktonnick]

My main point has been all along has been Bloom could have done a better job in replacing Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe. If your’re happy with Bloom, and think he’s a boy wonder then good for you, but i on the other hand am not, and think of Bloom is being more of a Boy Blunder. Different opinions from a different way at looking at things.

Regardless, I think.it is fair to say the bloom is off the rose in Boston. Excuse the bad pun. But he isn't going to win any.popularity contests in Beantown at present.

[mvp 78]

B L O O M has taken Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe, and turned them into Dugy, Franchy, and JBJ. How has that made the Red Sox better. News Flash! It hasn’t.

 

Mookie was an ownership decision.

 

It's right to blame Bloom for what Beni and Renfroe turned into.

 

Last year, the grab bag worked out. It failed this year.

 

If the team plays poorly next year, it is a near replication of Cherington's tenure.

[JDavis76]

The most free-spending GM in team history couldn’t lock him up. Nothing that Mookie (or more accurately, Mookie’s agent) said at the time indicated this was going to be possible except in an extremely cost-prohibitive way.

 

And even then, had the Sox extended Mookie, Bogaerts would have left after 2019. So it comes down to Betts vs Bogaerts and Verdugo. That’s not a slam dunk either way IMO…

 

I'd take betts over xbo and verdugo.

 

And betts has said that he would have stayed in beantowne had they met the dodgers offer.

[mvp 78]

Yes I knew it all, but still the bottom line is that the Red Sox are worse off, and the bottom line is Dugy replaced Mookie. Spin all you want, but still the Red Sox are worse off.

 

The MLB squad is worse off. Is the organization as a whole worse off? It depends on how much you value lottery tickets.

[JDavis76]

Regardless, I think.it is fair to say the bloom is off the rose in Boston. Excuse the bad pun. But he isn't going to win any.popularity contests in Beantown at present.

 

Hang 'em chaim is obviously in over his head.....

[notin]

My main point has been all along has been Bloom could have done a better job in replacing Mookie, Beni, and Renfroe. If your’re happy with Bloom, and think he’s a boy wonder then good for you, but i on the other hand am not, and think of Bloom is being more of a Boy Blunder. Different opinions from a different way at looking at things.

 

 

Replacing Mookie was never going to happen. If you think he did poorly because all the pundits gave the trade a D, what better option did he pass on? (Disclosure - I preferred the original Verdugo/Graterol deal at the time. And despite Graterol’s health struggles, I still do.)

 

But it’s not like 29 teams were throwing their best names at Boston and Bloom just chose poorly. His options were limited. He could:

 

1) have held Betts and Price (whom the Sox would still be paying $31mill to) for one more season. He really couldn’t re-sign Betts because Mookie wanted a ton of money and Henry wanted to reset the limit, which becomes impossible while paying full price Mookie and Price

2) traded him to LA as we saw

3) traded him and Price to San Diego for Wil Myers, one of Cal Quantrill or Joey Lucchesi, and one of Manny Margot or Josh Naylor.

 

That’s it. Those are the options. So if 2 is a D, which of 1 or 3 was better?

 

I suspect you’ll ignore the question and continue to complain while pretending there were dozens of better offers that were refused for no reason whatsoever…

Edited August 1, 2022 by notin

[Bellhorn04]

Regardless, I think.it is fair to say the bloom is off the rose in Boston. Excuse the bad pun. But he isn't going to win any.popularity contests in Beantown at present.

 

Yes, those are the key words: "at present".

[mvp 78]

Yes, those are the key words: "at present".

 

9 months ago?

[mvp 78]

4 months from now?

 

A lot can change.

[JDavis76]

Replacing Moolie was never going to happen. If you think he did poorly because all the pundits gave the trade a D, what better option did he pass on? (Disclosure - I preferred the original Verdugo/Graterol deal at the time. And despite Graterol’s health struggles, I still do.)

 

But it’s not like 29 teams were throwing their best names at Boston and Bloom just chose poorly. His options were limited. He could:

 

1) have held Betts and Price (whom the Sox would still be paying $31mill to) for one more season. He really couldn’t re-sign Betts because Mookie wanted a ton of money and Henry wanted to reset the limit, which becomes impossible while paying full price Mookie and Price

2) traded him to LA as we saw

3) traded him and Price to San Diego for Wil Myers, one of Cal Quantrill or Joey Lucchesi, and one of Manny Margot or Josh Naylor.

 

That’s it. Those are the options. So if 2 is a D, which of 1 or 3 was better?

 

I suspect you’ll ignore the question and continue to complain while pretending there were dozens of better offers that were refused for no reason whatsoever…

 

How do you know those were the only options being offered? Does the front office invite you in on Zoom calls to discuss trades?

[notin]

How do you know those were the only options being offered? Does the front office invite you in on Zoom calls to discuss trades?

 

Well those were absolutely the only offers that anyone published.

 

I’m sure several other teams checked in, but taking on one year of an OF making $25mill plus a portion of Price’s deal also eliminated over 2/3 of MLB before names even changed hands.

 

And everyone who panned the trade in the media failed to mention even another single interested party. So it’s possible/likely other offers existed, the extent of how serious they were cannot be ascertained.

 

That leaves two known serious offers. If you know of a third, I’d love to add it to my list of options. I welcome all corrections…