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With the Marlins, it’s the arbitration-eligible pitchers you target. Not the prospects.

 

The Sox hopefully will see what any and all small market teams have eligible for arbitration that they might deal. The final arb guys are riskiest, since one injury ruins the whole trade…

 

I want young power arms who are still under control for a year at least preferably 2-3.

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I want young power arms who are still under control for a year at least preferably 2-3.

 

Arb-eligibles have 1-3 years…

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People who have been interviewed include:

 

Eddie Romero

Paul Toboni

Michael Groopman

Neal Huntington

Thad Levine

Craig Breslow

 

Am I missing anyone????

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People who have been interviewed include:

 

Eddie Romero

Paul Toboni

Michael Groopman

Neal Huntington

Thad Levine

Craig Breslow

 

Am I missing anyone????

 

There is a mystery outside party that has been interviewed that remains undisclosed.

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In the meantime, according to a major league source, the Red Sox are still waiting to hear back on requests to speak with a couple of other candidates. Teams must obtain permission to interview potential candidates currently employed by other organizations.

 

Additionally, there are indications that another external candidate, whose identity has not been made public, has also already interviewed with the Red Sox about the role.

 

-Sean McAdam

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@alexspeier

A new name in Red Sox’ search for a baseball boss: Gabe Kapler has interviewed

 

I guess Kennedy wasn't joking about it being an exhaustive search.

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I guess Kennedy wasn't joking about it being an exhaustive search.

 

What’s making it more exhaustive is the number of candidates who wouldn’t even interview that I don’t think Kennedy counted on when he made that statement.

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What’s making it more exhaustive is the number of candidates who wouldn’t even interview that I don’t think Kennedy counted on when he made that statement.

 

anyone who takes this job needs to make sure they do their homework on the team philosophy going forward

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What’s making it more exhaustive is the number of candidates who wouldn’t even interview that I don’t think Kennedy counted on when he made that statement.

 

Right, so now they're trying to make it look like there are a lot of qualified but under-the-radar candidates that nobody else thought of! :D

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Right, so now they're trying to make it look like there are a lot of qualified but under-the-radar candidates that nobody else thought of! :D

 

Luckily for the Sox that Sham The Sham has everything under control.

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Right, so now they're trying to make it look like there are a lot of qualified but under-the-radar candidates that nobody else thought of! :D

 

If you can get the Athletic Steve Buckley has a solid piece on the subject.

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I'm not saying that the 3 guys in 12 years aren't having an impact on their search, as a matter of fact, my opinion is starting to be persuaded to buy that argument but I still think it hasn't been as bad as the media has hammered home about. At this point, it's probably not anything a few extra million and a little sweet talking couldn't cure for most people who would otherwise be interested in the job. But, you certainly do not want that reputation around town.

 

Still, I can't help but contemplate how often a process like this has been so heavily reported on.

 

I'm not sure what people should expect when you're trying to hire for a position and you're asking people who already have jobs to come to fill the position. How many of the people turning down interviews don't have gigs in 2024 and are actively looking for a job?

 

Why would a guy from the southwest want to move his family AND leave an organization that is on the up and currently in the playoffs?

 

Now, I know there are reasons to say yes. Very little incentive to make that move if it's not a promotion but these executives who are VPs and on their way up are the types of opportunities they wait for and many, not all, anticipate some kind of regional to national uprooting. Do any of us really have an ideal of what is a normal number of candidates to ask to interview and how many decline? I certainly do not.

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I'm not saying that the 3 guys in 12 years aren't having an impact on their search, as a matter of fact, my opinion is starting to be persuaded to buy that argument but I still think it hasn't been as bad as the media has hammered home about. At this point, it's probably not anything a few extra million and a little sweet talking couldn't cure for most people who would otherwise be interested in the job. But, you certainly do not want that reputation around town.

 

Still, I can't help but contemplate how often a process like this has been so heavily reported on.

 

I'm not sure what people should expect when you're trying to hire for a position and you're asking people who already have jobs to come to fill the position. How many of the people turning down interviews don't have gigs in 2024 and are actively looking for a job?

 

Why would a guy from the southwest want to move his family AND leave an organization that is on the up and currently in the playoffs?

 

Now, I know there are reasons to say yes. Very little incentive to make that move if it's not a promotion but these executives who are VPs and on their way up are the types of opportunities they wait for and many, not all, anticipate some kind of regional to national uprooting. Do any of us really have an ideal of what is a normal number of candidates to ask to interview and how many decline? I certainly do not.

 

I just don’t recall of so many turning down the Red Sox before to even interview for the job.

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I just don’t recall of so many turning down the Red Sox before to even interview for the job.

 

But that's my point, when has this ever become a huge media story? and how many people are going to turn you down when a large pool of candidates already have good jobs with family and careers on the other side of the country.

 

There's a difference between putting out an ad to advertise a job to people who are looking for one, and an entirely different thing to go try and poach people away from other careers.

 

Inherently it's obviously true you're going to get a LOT more no's from that latter concept, but how much is normal and how much of this is a concern? Whats a normal amount of people to say no? 1 out of 2, 1 out of 4? I have no ideal. I don't think any of us do.

 

Last time the Sox went looking for a guy to fill this role they didn't even look, they had their guy in Bloom.

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Reading that Craig Breslow is a serious candidate? Wtf?

 

Well, he has front-office experience. So, he fits the bill.

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But that's my point, when has this ever become a huge media story? and how many people are going to turn you down when a large pool of candidates already have good jobs with family and careers on the other side of the country.

 

There's a difference between putting out an ad to advertise a job to people who are looking for one, and an entirely different thing to go try and poach people away from other careers.

 

Inherently it's obviously true you're going to get a LOT more no's from that latter concept, but how much is normal and how much of this is a concern? Whats a normal amount of people to say no? 1 out of 2, 1 out of 4? I have no ideal. I don't think any of us do.

 

Last time the Sox went looking for a guy to fill this role they didn't even look, they had their guy in Bloom.

It’s a big media story, because of the plight of the Red Sox in the standings, and how unpopular JH has really become, and the turmoil, and turnover of the GM job itself especially with DD getting fired 1 year after 3 1st place finishes, and a WS championship. Fans are a lot more than a little on edge, and want some good results for a change.

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I don’t see the logic of going with some as inexperienced as Breslow.

 

Seems like Henry has serious budget issues.

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It’s a big media story, because of the plight of the Red Sox in the standings, and how unpopular JH has really become, and the turmoil, and turnover of the GM job itself especially with DD getting fired 1 year after 3 1st place finishes, and a WS championship. Fans are a lot more than a little on edge, and want some good results for a change.

 

While this may be a stretch for some, I think DD's success in Philadelphia just adds fuel to the notion that Henry has unreasonable expectations of his CBO and is too mercurial to work for.

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It’s a big media story, because of the plight of the Red Sox in the standings, and how unpopular JH has really become, and the turmoil, and turnover of the GM job itself especially with DD getting fired 1 year after 3 1st place finishes, and a WS championship. Fans are a lot more than a little on edge, and want some good results for a change.

 

That's absolutely 100% correct, good post, I fully agree here. I think if anything John Henry needs more scrutiny going forward as well.

 

But, I still wonder, what's normal here? I don't have anything to compare it to. 8 out of 18 or 20 guys have said yes to an interview. That's roughly 1/2 maybe a little less. Is that normal, below average, or above average when looking to hire someone from a pool of candidates whom many already have jobs???

 

The reason I ask this, and I don't expect any of us to truthfully be able to answer it is I wonder just how much trouble they actually are in here. If it's average, or even a little below I don't think they are. I don't truly know that though.

 

I'd imagine guys who are already in positions of similar stature are going to be far and wide less interested. You're asking a guy to make a sideways move and move his family across the country for probably only marginally more money. This kind of answers 700a's question but this is why you see a lot of guys who have real front office experience but maybe in a lesser role take on these jobs are throw their hats in the ring for an interview because this is the job the dream about and have been working up the ladder for.

 

If you're vice president, or assistant GM in another organization, the odds of you being interested in this job are a lot higher than they are if you're already the head guy. This is why guys like Kapler and Breslow are getting a look, they do have real F.O. experience and Breslow allegedly has a very good reputation in the industry and is considered to be on the rise. He might be a much better candidate than people realize.

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Seems like Henry has serious budget issues.

 

Front office executives' compensation has zero bearing on luxury tax implications.

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Front office executives' compensation has zero bearing on luxury tax implications.

 

Which speaks even more volumes.

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Which speaks even more volumes.

 

Not really, people who are executive vice presidents and assistant gms interview and move up to these positions all the time.

 

I find it hilarious when things that are normal happen and people go "ah haaaaa what's going on here"

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Right, so now they're trying to make it look like there are a lot of qualified but under-the-radar candidates that nobody else thought of! :D

 

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