A Realistic View at 2021: Part II

[Bellhorn04]

He should opt out. The Sox would be able to fit some younger guys in the lineup a little easier.

 

Ugh.

[Bellhorn04]

he might be right about that, but if JD opts out, that would open up a lot of possibilities for the Red Sox. After all, we would be replacing a DH, and that shouldn't be hard to do.

 

It'll certainly be easy to replace him with a worse DH.

[notin]

Did you notice Wilson was taken out of the Worcester lineup. don't know if he was involved in any trade discussions. Something will be happening soon.

 

Probably injured.

 

I don’t imagine there is much demand for Wilson, although he could get some ancillary piece.

[Nick]

If his agent says he can maybe get $45M/3 by opting out, he may take that over $20M/1 plus what he might get after the 2022 season.

 

With player values still a bit unknown due to the whole COVID thing, you may be right.

 

His agent is stupid.

 

Let's do the math.

 

We'll round the numbers to $19M. It's actually $19.375M.

 

So at the end of 2022, all JD has to do is to sign a two year deal for $26M or $13M per year. He would have earned total of $45M (the amount agent is going after).

 

Anyone here don't think JD can earn $13M per year?

 

Fire the sucker.

[Bellhorn04]

His agent is stupid.

 

Let's do the math.

 

We'll round the numbers to $19M. It's actually $19.375M.

 

So at the end of 2022, all JD has to do is to sign a two year deal for $26M or $13M per year. He would have earned total of $45M (the amount agent is going after).

 

Anyone here don't think JD can earn $13M per year?

 

Fire the sucker.

 

The JD of July, 2021 certainly could. But he is getting into his mid 30's, so there's a risk of decline that has to be factored in there.

[Bellhorn04]

I think moon's idea of offering 3/45 and tearing up the existing deal is in the ballpark. Maybe it would take 3/48 or 3/51.

[Kimmi]

I think moon's idea of offering 3/45 and tearing up the existing deal is in the ballpark. Maybe it would take 3/48 or 3/51.

 

I am on board with this. No more than 2 additional years.

[moonslav59]

His agent is stupid.

 

Let's do the math.

 

We'll round the numbers to $19M. It's actually $19.375M.

 

So at the end of 2022, all JD has to do is to sign a two year deal for $26M or $13M per year. He would have earned total of $45M (the amount agent is going after).

 

Anyone here don't think JD can earn $13M per year?

 

Fire the sucker.

 

We'll see.

 

I don't remember many teams looking to sign JD three years ago.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

1B Kike 100

2B Arroyo 104

LF Verdugo 108

CF Duran ???

RF Renfroe 108

 

Maybe your right, maybe the Red Sox plan to do something like this.

 

Perhaps the Red Sox won't trade for a 1b, but instead will move Hernandez to first with Duran's promotion.

 

It's official, folks, if you haven't heard the news, the Red Sox are promoting Duran!

 

With Duran's promotion, it should be interesting to see what they do with Kike, how much does he play CF, 2b, and 1b?

Edited July 14, 2021 by Fan_since_Boggs

[iortiz]

Reading that Duran will joint the team tomorrow in NY.

 

People were saying he is not ready. Bloom thinks the opposite.

 

Let’s f go!

[iortiz]

Maybe your right, maybe the Red Sox plan to do something like this.

 

Perhaps the Red Sox won't trade for a 1b, but instead will move Hernandez to first with Duran's promotion.

 

It's official, folks, if you haven't heard the news, the Red Sox are promoting Duran!

 

With Duran's promotion, it should be interesting to see what they do with Kike, how much does he play CF, 2b, and 1b?

Yup. It is happening.

 

So excited!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

My guess if the Red Sox face a righty tomorrow:

 

Kike 2b or 1b

Verdugo LF

Martinez DH

Bogaerts SS

Devers 3b

Renfroe RF

Vazquez C

Duran CF

Arroyo 2b or Dalbec 1b

[iortiz]

If Kike can play 1B

 

It could be

 

1B Kike

2B Arroyo

3B Devers

SS XB

RF Renfroe

CF Duran

LF Verdugo

C Vázquez

[iortiz]

My Lup would be

 

1. Arroyo

2. Verdugo

3. Xander

4. Devers

5. JD

6. Duran

7. Kike

8. Vazquez

9. Renfroe

[Bellhorn04]

Reading that Duran will joint the team tomorrow in NY.

 

People were saying he is not ready. Bloom thinks the opposite.

 

Let’s f go!

 

Honestly, whatever Bloom thinks is the right move is good with me.

[iortiz]

Honestly, whatever Bloom thinks is the right move is good with me.

 

Oh yeah, but people tought that Bloom was thinking he wasn't ready. Seems he is.

 

Said that, we’ll se how they use him.

[illinoisredsox]

I doubt he'll be in the line-up tomorrow night; they'll give him a day to get his bearings.

 

What's the corresponding move for the 40 man? Santana or Chavis would appear to be the likely candidates for removal.

[iortiz]

It’s a good moment to call him up while trying to answer some questions before the TD.

 

If this kid splashes, their moves will be easier to address and probably they will focus only in pitching.

[iortiz]

I doubt he'll be in the line-up tomorrow night; they'll give him a day to get his bearings.

 

What's the corresponding move for the 40 man? Santana or Chavis would appear to be the likely candidates for removal.

I think Santana brings more to the table but Chavis is a trade bait.

 

My guess? Santana will be DFAed.

[Bellhorn04]

It’s a good moment to call him up while trying to answer some questions before the TD.

 

If this kid splashes, their moves will be easier to address and probably they will focus only in pitching.

 

Good point.

[moonslav59]

Maybe your right, maybe the Red Sox plan to do something like this.

 

Perhaps the Red Sox won't trade for a 1b, but instead will move Hernandez to first with Duran's promotion.

 

It's official, folks, if you haven't heard the news, the Red Sox are promoting Duran!

 

With Duran's promotion, it should be interesting to see what they do with Kike, how much does he play CF, 2b, and 1b?

 

Kike should play nearly everyday, and he is our best defensive CF'er.

 

Moving him around for Duran better be worth it.

[moonslav59]

Duran was ready to be called up when Bloom called him up.

 

That time is now.

 

Trust in Bloom.

[moonslav59]

Who get's traded or DFA'd?

 

If nobody is traded, I'd bet Brice or Santana are DFA'd.

 

(Other choices might be Andriese, Rios or Workman.)

 

If it's a trade, maybe it's Marcus Wilson, who was pulled from tonight's line-up.

[iortiz]

People were saying Duran was going to play everyday when called up. That’s not necessary the case either.

 

Nick and I and few others were all hands on in Duran’s calling up.

 

I guess we see eye to eye things like Bloom does lol

[iortiz]

Maybe Duran will share some time in CF and 2B too.

 

The possibilities are limitless knowing Bloom and Cora which is great.

[Larry Cook]

Why do we keep Potts on the 40 man roster?

[moonslav59]

Could we see this sort of playing time structure?

 

Every 10 games

 

9 Renfroe (sits 1 gms vs RHP- .713 career) RF

8-9 Verdugo (sits 1-2 vs LHP- .687 career) LF/RF

8-9 Kike (sits vs RHPs- career .681 career) CF/2B/1B

8-9 Arroyo (sits vs any- almost identical career .682/.686) 2B

8-9 Duran (sits vs any- close splits in the minors) CF/LF

6-7 Dalbec (sits vs RHPs- .680 career) 1B

 

[iortiz]

Why do we keep Potts on the 40 man roster?

 

Who is Potts? Lol

[moonslav59]

Why do we keep Potts on the 40 man roster?

 

He was on the IL, this year, but he might be one of those borderline players.

 

He may not be on the 2022 forty man roster, along with these non free agent current 40 man roster players:

 

Santana

Potts

Chavis

Arauz

Wilson

Rosario

 

Rios

Workman

Andries

[moonslav59]

People were saying Duran was going to play everyday when called up. That’s not necessary the case either.

 

Nick and I and few others were all hands on in Duran’s calling up.

 

I guess we see eye to eye things like Bloom does lol

 

Many wanted Duran called up when Bloom thought he was ready.

 

You and others wanted him called up way before now.