A Realistic View at 2021: Part II

[notin]

You mean Workman?

 

Yes.

 

Wrong Brandon.

 

I’m talking about some guy named Brandon Brennan who’s on the bottom of the 40 man roster...

[moonslav59]

I'm more interested in median runs scored than average. Think back to the Oakland series. What good does average do in that series.

 

It would likely show a lot of teams tied at 3, 4 or 5 runs.

 

We've had 24 games where we scored 4 or less runs and 24 scoring 5 or more runs. The next game will determine if our median is 4 or 5.

(28 games played)

Our median for runs allowed is 4. (22 at 0-3, 8 at 4 and 18 at 5 or more.)

 

So maybe our median game score is 5-4.

 

Rays

Scoring 4 (20 games at 0-3, 7 at 4 and 21 at 5 or more.)

Allowed: 3 (17 at 0-3, 10 at 3 and 21 at 4 or more.

The Rays median game score is 4-3.

 

Yanks (47 games):

Scoring: 3 (15 games at 0-2 runs, 9 at 3 and 23 at 4+)

Allowed: 3 (17 at 0-2, 8 and 3, and 22 at 4+)

The Yanks median game score 3-3.

 

Jays (45 games)

Scoring: 4 (16 at 0-3, 7 at 4, and 22 at 5+)

Allowed: 4 (19 at 0-3, 7 at 4 and 19 at 5+)

Jays median score: 4-4

 

I'm not sure this tells a very different story, except that we are one low-scoring game away from a median 4-4 score, while the Rays have a solid 4-3 median score.

[mvp 78]

Wrong Brandon.

 

I’m talking about some guy named Brandon Brennan who’s on the bottom of the 40 man roster...

 

AKA Austin Brice with options

[mvp 78]

Is the next move to DFA Brewer and add Ort?

[Nick]

It would likely show a lot of teams tied at 3, 4 or 5 runs.

 

We've had 24 games where we scored 4 or less runs and 24 scoring 5 or more runs. The next game will determine if our median is 4 or 5.

(28 games played)

Our median for runs allowed is 4. (22 at 0-3, 8 at 4 and 18 at 5 or more.)

 

So maybe our median game score is 5-4.

 

Rays

Scoring 4 (20 games at 0-3, 7 at 4 and 21 at 5 or more.)

Allowed: 3 (17 at 0-3, 10 at 3 and 21 at 4 or more.

The Rays median game score is 4-3.

 

Yanks (47 games):

Scoring: 3 (15 games at 0-2 runs, 9 at 3 and 23 at 4+)

Allowed: 3 (17 at 0-2, 8 and 3, and 22 at 4+)

The Yanks median game score 3-3.

 

Jays (45 games)

Scoring: 4 (16 at 0-3, 7 at 4, and 22 at 5+)

Allowed: 4 (19 at 0-3, 7 at 4 and 19 at 5+)

Jays median score: 4-4

 

I'm not sure this tells a very different story, except that we are one low-scoring game away from a median 4-4 score, while the Rays have a solid 4-3 median score.

 

thanks for trying

[moonslav59]

Wrong Brandon.

 

I’m talking about some guy named Brandon Brennan who’s on the bottom of the 40 man roster...

 

I still think Workman has a better chance of seeing time with BOS than Brennan.

[mvp 78]

I still think Workman has a better chance of seeing time with BOS than Brennan.

 

Disagree.

[notin]

Is the next move to DFA Brewer and add Ort?

 

I think Brewer might get a few IP before getting DFAd.

 

It might be too early in the season to start making irreversible moves without giving the internal options a chance...

[notin]

I still think Workman has a better chance of seeing time with BOS than Brennan.

 

Right now, Brennan has a better chance, since he can be added with one roster move. Workman is going to require more moves just to make him eligible...

[mvp 78]

I think Brewer might get a few IP before getting DFAd.

 

It might be too early in the season to start making irreversible moves without giving the internal options a chance...

 

So far, 3 IP and has given up a run each time out.

[mvp 78]

Unless we are really scared about losing Brewer to the Rays. That could really come back to bite us!

[moonslav59]

Right now, Brennan has a better chance, since he can be added with one roster move. Workman is going to require more moves just to make him eligible...

 

Bazardo is ahead of Brennan, and when Brasier is ready, so will he.

 

If Brennan is next on the pecking order, then yes, he has a better chance than Workman.

 

Also, when is Seabold going to pitch again?

[notin]

So far, 3 IP and has given up a run each time out.

 

Still thnk he gets called up before he gets DFAd.

 

If the Sox DFA a pitcher with MLB experience, has options and makes no money, absolutely zero chance he clears waivers. So you have to be sure you don' want him before you do that. And I doubt they made that call after 3 IP...

[moonslav59]

Still thnk he gets called up before he gets DFAd.

 

If the Sox DFA a pitcher with MLB experience, has options and makes no money, absolutely zero chance he clears waivers. So you have to be sure you don' want him before you do that. And I doubt they made that call after 3 IP...

 

Has anyone claimed Brice?

 

BTW, Arroyo returns Tuesday, according to one report.

 

Chavis or Cordero demoted?

[mvp 78]

Still thnk he gets called up before he gets DFAd.

 

If the Sox DFA a pitcher with MLB experience, has options and makes no money, absolutely zero chance he clears waivers. So you have to be sure you don' want him before you do that. And I doubt they made that call after 3 IP...

 

You're most likely right, but I think Ort will get promoted at some point this season.

[mvp 78]

Has anyone claimed Brice?

 

BTW, Arroyo returns Tuesday, according to one report.

 

Chavis or Cordero demoted?

 

Boston Red Sox option Michael Chavis to Triple-A Worcester; Christian Arroyo expected to be activated from IL

Edited May 24, 2021 by mvp 78

[Hugh2]

I doubt we will ever see Workman again in Boston, I hope I'm wrong. I think you see Brennan this year, I don't expect much from him as I see him as an emergency up/down guy, but you're going to need that at least once this year.

 

Wish Chavis had a position, I think he will hit eventually, but I'm not sure how much teams can hold on for ok offense when the defense is subpar everywhere.

[oldtimer]

Related question. What will Duran and Casas selection for the team to play Nicaragua in the qualifying round for the baseball Olympics do to their availability for both their minor league teams and the possibility of them making the Sox club this season? I understand that 2 of the current 28 players selected for the team will be dropped from the roster, but assuming they are still part of the 26 man team, what does that mean?

[moonslav59]

Boston Red Sox option Michael Chavis to Triple-A Worcester; Christian Arroyo expected to be activated from IL

 

They must really think Cordero can turn it around at the ML level.

[oldtimer]

They must really think Cordero can turn it around at the ML level.

 

Not necessarily. Chavis had more chances yet still had not gotten past chasing high fast balls. Franchy could be the next to go down. It doesn't appear Duran will be coming up any time soon with his appointment to the Olympic baseball qualifying team and I see no other outfielder in the system who is likely to be brought up, so if Franchy is sent down it more likely will be for a pitcher. (Sale?)

[Hugh2]

They must really think Cordero can turn it around at the ML level.

 

I think people don't see the potential he has which causes some of the upset. But, what's potential? Trey Ball had potential, Will Middlebrooks had potential, at a certain point you have to perform.

 

I think the Sox line of thinking is Cordero has already spent enough time at the AAA level and hit it pretty well, if he's going to make the adjustments to tap into potential as a power hitter he's got to do it at the MLB level. I think there's a point where they give up on Cordero and he plays his way down, but I think they'd rather have someone else be the up/down guy until they're ready to give up on him.

 

It would be a lot easier to give him some more rope if the Sox weren't so darn competitive this year!!!

[moonslav59]

I doubt we will ever see Workman again in Boston, I hope I'm wrong. I think you see Brennan this year, I don't expect much from him as I see him as an emergency up/down guy, but you're going to need that at least once this year.

 

Wish Chavis had a position, I think he will hit eventually, but I'm not sure how much teams can hold on for ok offense when the defense is subpar everywhere.

 

He might be better than Okay offense, and his defense kinda surprised me- not that it was good, but I expected horrific D.

 

He hit 24 HRs in his first 600 PAs in MLB. He K'd a lot, yes, but I do think he deserves a longer look.

 

He'll likely get it elsewhere, unless someone gets hurt.

[moonslav59]

All in all, there really isn't a big difference between giving Cordero or Chavis a longer look in the bigs, and it might just be two more weeks, anyway.

[Hugh2]

He might be better than Okay offense, and his defense kinda surprised me- not that it was good, but I expected horrific D.

 

He hit 24 HRs in his first 600 PAs in MLB. He K'd a lot, yes, but I do think he deserves a longer look.

 

He'll likely get it elsewhere, unless someone gets hurt.

 

I don't think the Sox are ready to move on yet, but if Santana hits at the MLB their hand might be forced. I don't think they're going to rush Duran, if they're getting absolutely nothing in LF and they're still competitive come August. Kind of like when Will Middlebrooks became a black hole in the Sox lineup and they rushed Bogaerts to the majors. It happens, but Santana could make everyone life easier if he can just repeat 2019 and then no one has to get rushed.

[moonslav59]

I think Chavis gets traded for a RP'er.

[notin]

They must really think Cordero can turn it around at the ML level.

 

With Arroyo back, they need Chavis a bit less...

[moonslav59]

With Arroyo back, they need Chavis a bit less...

 

With Santana up and Kike back, they need Cordero less.

[notin]

With Santana up and Kike back, they need Cordero less.

 

Not enough to put him behind Chavis on the depth chart.

 

 

Gonzalez, Hernandez and Santana can all basically play anywhere. But with Arroyo back, the Sox have 4 starters plus all of them for depth. The outfield situation has just Verdugo and Renfroe as dedicated outfielders. Cordero just gives them more depth than Chavis would. The Sox simply have fewer dedicated outfielders than dedicated infielders...

Edited May 24, 2021 by notin

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Not enough to put him behind Chavis on the depth chart.

 

 

Gonzalez, Hernandez and Santana can all basically play anywhere. But with Arroyo back, the Sox have 4 starters plus all of them for depth. The outfield situation has just Verdugo and Renfroe as dedicated outfielders. Cordero just gives them more depth than Chavis would. The Sox simply have fewer dedicated outfielders than dedicated infielders...

 

They need more liveicated pitchers!

[Nick]

I think Chavis gets traded for a RP'er.

 

Yep, if I'm Chavis I'll ask to be traded. He will never get fair shake under Cora. Cora has his guys. Cora values versatile guys yet he didn't give Chavis chance to work in outfield. It is what it is. I like Chavis. I hope he's traded and becomes a 30 homer type.