Beni traded to Royals

[moonslav59]

Good for Beni.

 

I’m waiting on the 3 PTBNL’ers to be announced.

 

Cordero will likely get another chance or two but his stock has bottomed out.

[Bellhorn04]

In 35 plate appearances over his last nine games Andrew Benintendi has posted a .419/.486/.742/1.228 line with nine runs, three home runs, six RBi and one steal.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=beninan01&t=b&year=2021

 

It's actually even better over his last 8 games.

[mvp 78]

It's actually even better over his last 8 games.

 

Worse over his past 7 games though.

[jad]

Did I just hear someone suggest that Cordero has missed so much time, he really needs to be given 400-500 ABs before making any judgments regarding him?

[moonslav59]

In 35 plate appearances over his last nine games Andrew Benintendi has posted a .419/.486/.742/1.228 line with nine runs, three home runs, six RBi and one steal.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=beninan01&t=b&year=2021

 

If Beni had started as poorly with the Sox as he did this year with the Royals, he’d have never made it to this 8 game stretch.

[Bellhorn04]

Did I just hear someone suggest that Cordero has missed so much time, he really needs to be given 400-500 ABs before making any judgments regarding him?

 

I think you're hearing things. Either that or it was a Yankee fan.

[moonslav59]

I think you're hearing things. Either that or it was a Yankee fan.

 

He might very well need 400-500 PAs to right the ship, but he ain’t getting ‘em here- at least in one long stretch at a .400 clip.

[Bellhorn04]

Franchy has only struck out once in his last 10 PA's. That's the only faint glimmer of hope I can see in his game logs.

[harmony]

If Beni had started as poorly with the Sox as he did this year with the Royals, he’d have never made it to this 8 game stretch.

Aside from Alex Verdugo, Andrew Benintendi's outfield competition would have come from Franchy Cordero, Hunter Renfroe and Kike Hernandez, who now have OPS+ of 17, 58 and 88.

[Bellhorn04]

Worse over his past 7 games though.

 

Us pro cherry-pickers settle for nothing less than the optimum selection.

[Kimmi]

Beni has really turned it around the last 8 games. Good for him.

 

I really didn't want to trade Beni, but as you said, good for him. I'm glad that KC is playing so well right now. Unfortunately for them, I don't see it lasting.

 

His trade was definitely a move geared towards the future and not this year.

[Kimmi]

In 35 plate appearances over his last nine games Andrew Benintendi has posted a .419/.486/.742/1.228 line with nine runs, three home runs, six RBi and one steal.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=beninan01&t=b&year=2021

 

This makes me sad. Not for him, but for the Sox.

[Kimmi]

It's actually even better over his last 8 games.

 

Worse over his past 7 games though.

 

You guys are not right.

[Kimmi]

Franchy has only struck out once in his last 10 PA's. That's the only faint glimmer of hope I can see in his game logs.

 

His peripheral stats do not offer a lot of encouragement.

[moonslav59]

Aside from Alex Verdugo, Andrew Benintendi's outfield competition would have come from Franchy Cordero, Hunter Renfroe and Kike Hernandez, who now have OPS+ of 17, 58 and 88.

 

Not Franchy

[Jasonbay44]

I hope I end up being wrong but I always hated this trade. After watching Franchy “field” and “hit” I hate it even more

[moonslav59]

I hope I end up being wrong but I always hated this trade. After watching Franchy “field” and “hit” I hate it even more

 

There were 3 parts of the Beni trade:

 

1. Franchy

2. Saving a few million- this year and next.

3. 3 PTBNLs

 

I'm not sure Franchy was the main reason this deal was made. I'm pretty sure #2 & #3 combined outweighed #1.

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

There were 3 parts of the Beni trade:

 

1. Franchy

2. Saving a few million- this year and next.

3. 3 PTBNLs

 

I'm not sure Franchy was the main reason this deal was made. I'm pretty sure #2 & #3 combined outweighed #1.

 

 

Agreed, and I think #3 was the key to the deal for Bloom's priority at the time: acquire depth and get younger. Beni may make an All-Star team or two before he's done, but basically a 5-for-1 (don't forget Winchowski in this three-way) could net more optimal value than the Betts trade.

[moonslav59]

Agreed, and I think #3 was the key to the deal for Bloom's priority at the time: acquire depth and get younger. Beni may make an All-Star team or two before he's done, but basically a 5-for-1 (don't forget Winchowski in this three-way) could net more optimal value than the Betts trade.

 

Yes, I forgot Winckowski, who does show some promise.

[redsoxrules]

Even with that hot stretch his ops is still only 730. Garbage. Wake me up when he's around 800. Otherwise it was good move trading him.

[moonslav59]

Even with that hot stretch his ops is still only 730. Garbage. Wake me up when he's around 800. Otherwise it was good move trading him.

 

Who knows, maybe Winckowski will make the trade worth it, alone.

[redsoxrules]

Who knows, maybe Winckowski will make the trade worth it, alone.

 

That too.

Along with this ,JBJ has a 156 batting AVG. I don't miss him either

[Nick]

There were 3 parts of the Beni trade:

 

1. Franchy

2. Saving a few million- this year and next.

3. 3 PTBNLs

 

I'm not sure Franchy was the main reason this deal was made. I'm pretty sure #2 & #3 combined outweighed #1.

 

 

2021 Sox is all about identifying core group of players going forward. Beni and JBJ did not make the cut. Bloom is doing all he can to get something of value in return for guys that's not in the plan going forward. He's doing damn good job of it.

 

I would have been so pissed to give out $24M, two year deal to JBJ.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Nick

[moonslav59]

2021 Sox is all about identifying core group of players going forward. Beni and JBJ did not make the cut. Bloom is doing all he can to get something of value in return for guys that's not in the plan going forward. He's doing damn good job of it.

 

I would have been so pissed to give out $24M, two year deal to JBJ.

 

I thought even $18M/3 was too much.

 

Beni was a hard player to project future performance levels. Maybe Bloom gets this one wrong, but certainly there was merit in thinking it was time to move on.

 

He got 5 players for him- all younger and with way more years of team control.

He saved a couple million, this year and maybe more, next year.

 

Even if hindsight values this as a bad trade, we only really traded 2 years of control on Beni, and one of those was supposed to be during a "bridge" or rebuild season of 2021.

[iortiz]

2021 Sox is all about identifying core group of players going forward. Beni and JBJ did not make the cut. Bloom is doing all he can to get something of value in return for guys that's not in the plan going forward. He's doing damn good job of it.

 

I would have been so pissed to give out $24M, two year deal to JBJ.

This is an excellent diagnostic of what you can expect for the Red Sox this year, and while this is a bridge year, this 2021 product still will make noise. If I were JH I would be pleased thus far.

Edited May 19, 2021 by iortiz

[iortiz]

And help is yet to come. Santana, Arroyo, Duran and Houk to say a few will join the team at some point and will make us stronger. Gonna be interesting.

[moonslav59]

And help still yet to come. Santana, Arroyo, Duran and Houck to say a few will join the team at some point and will make us stronger. Gonna be interesting.

 

Don't forget Bazardo, Brasier & Sale and maybe Seabold, Feltman, Herrmann, Arauz and Ockimey/Casas.

[mvp 78]

Don't forget Bazardo, Brasier & Sale and maybe Seabold, Feltman, Herrmann, Arauz and Ockimey/Casas.

 

Hermann is 33 years old.

[notin]

And help is yet to come. Santana, Arroyo, Duran and Houk to say a few will join the team at some point and will make us stronger. Gonna be interesting.

 

Is there any kind of timetable on Houck?

[mvp 78]

Is there any kind of timetable on Houck?

 

Houck said he feels great. No idea.