2020 Red Sox Win Total

[mvp 78]

How many games will the Sox win this year?

[Spudboy]

76 with any luck.

[mvp 78]

I went with 76 - 80. So that's similar to 2015 Red Sox bad, but not as bad as 2014 when they only won 71 games.

[moonslav59]

I went with 76 - 80. So that's similar to 2015 Red Sox bad, but not as bad as 2014 when they only won 71 games.

 

I voted 76-80, but I'm thinking more like 78-82. That wasn't a choice.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Team won’t sniff 80 games without a healthy sale ...Time to pull the plug and make a few more trades now and at the break .I do think trading Mookie May be a positive thing moving on from here .The team signing of Sale is looking terrible.Benny Should be traded for young arms he’s a player who will bring back a nice return next would be Vaz he’s got real Value .Erod Xander Devers Downs Casas Need to be the future building Blocks Keep Erod unless some one blows us away .Looking at a top 10 pick also next year so maybe by 2023 we compete again ? I think the Orioles beat up this team a handful of times this year .Will Ownership stay the course and trust this new guy Bloom is another story .Without Sale this teams going to get destroyed Quickly and Often by June no one will watch the Dreck by July JDM will be begging to get traded Edited March 3, 2020 by Swiharts Ghost

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It's going to be bad, and Boston guaranteed that when they gave up before the season even began by trading their best player in his prime...

 

... who I blame for all of this: if Mookie hadn't hit 3 HRs off Paxton before the trade deadline -- giving the Nation false hopes of contention -- we could've dealt him last summer for a better return. Imagine what LA would've given up for a year and a half of Betts?

[mvp 78]

I voted 76-80, but I'm thinking more like 78-82. That wasn't a choice.

 

Sorry that I had to make you pick a side, fence sitter.

[notin]

155

 

Maybe a little under....

[moonslav59]

Sorry that I had to make you pick a side, fence sitter.

 

I'm not sure I've ever been called that before.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I'd say somewhere around 87-88 wins. Even though they only had 84 last year with a more complete team, I think they underperformed quite a bit. Plus there's plenty of tanking teams in baseball that should boost everyone's records by a handful of games.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I picked 67. Expectations really haven't been this low this entire century. Even in last place years, no one expected the cellar.

 

Going into 2012, they had just missed the postseason, had a lot of talent returning and figured to be right back in the mix. In '14, they were coming off a title. Going into '15 was probably the lowest expectations up until now, but the Sox still had two borderline HOFers, and exciting, young talent that brought the promise of improvement.

 

All we have now is a new GM, who told us all: "We expect to be worse..."

[Slasher9]

i like to see who comes out of ST healthy before taking a shot but will go with 88.

[Kimmi]

Before the news of Sale's injury, I would have selected 87-92.

 

I am now thinking just over the .500 mark. I chose 81-86.

 

Also, thanks to MVP for starting this thread, fully equipped with a poll. This is why you are the MVP.

[Kimmi]

I picked 67. Expectations really haven't been this low this entire century. Even in last place years, no one expected the cellar.

 

Going into 2012, they had just missed the postseason, had a lot of talent returning and figured to be right back in the mix. In '14, they were coming off a title. Going into '15 was probably the lowest expectations up until now, but the Sox still had two borderline HOFers, and exciting, young talent that brought the promise of improvement.

 

All we have now is a new GM, who told us all: "We expect to be worse..."

 

This will be the first season in the John Henry era that I am entering the season feeling like we don't have a realistic shot at the playoffs. Even in the 3 years that we finished in last place, I thought the talent on the team was good enough for us to make the playoffs.

 

Things can still change, and I will remain hopeful, as always, but it's not looking good for the good guys.

[mvp 78]

Before the news of Sale's injury, I would have selected 87-92.

 

I am now thinking just over the .500 mark. I chose 81-86.

 

Also, thanks to MVP for starting this thread, fully equipped with a poll. This is why you are the MVP.

 

Welcome

[moonslav59]

I picked 67. Expectations really haven't been this low this entire century. Even in last place years, no one expected the cellar.

 

Going into 2012, they had just missed the postseason, had a lot of talent returning and figured to be right back in the mix. In '14, they were coming off a title. Going into '15 was probably the lowest expectations up until now, but the Sox still had two borderline HOFers, and exciting, young talent that brought the promise of improvement.

 

All we have now is a new GM, who told us all: "We expect to be worse..."

 

A century?

 

I realize this was probably hyperbole, and 80-90 years would be closer to accurate, as the teams of the early 20's to 30's really sucked. We never won more than 67 games from 1922-1933.

 

We were pretty bad right before the WS trip in 1946.

 

We were pretty bad for 6 or 7 years before the 1967 miracle season.

 

We were 54-61 in the shortened 1994 season.

 

We won 69 games in 2012 but very few expected less than 79 or 89 wins that season in March.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

A century?

 

I realize this was probably hyperbole, and 80-90 years would be closer to accurate, as the teams of the early 20's to 30's really sucked. We never won more than 67 games from 1922-1933.

 

We were pretty bad right before the WS trip in 1946.

 

We were pretty bad for 6 or 7 years before the 1967 miracle season.

 

We were 54-61 in the shortened 1994 season.

 

We won 69 games in 2012 but very few expected less than 79 or 89 wins that season in March.

 

Ha, I didn't mean this could be the worst Sox team in a hundred years, just this century -- as in, the 2000s, opposed to the 1900s. A better label, as someone pointed out, would be the Henry-Warner ownership era.

 

The first time a Red Sox team came in last in my lifetime was 1992, when they won 73 games. I honestly think this version could challenge that mark of ineptitude. Luckily(?), Baltimore should have a hard time winning that many, as well.

 

Sale, Price and Porcello may have combined for mediocrity in '19, but they still provided over 400 professional innings pitched at the big league level. Who is going to replace them in those 400 frames this year???

[FredLynn]

75+/- 3 games

[Kimmi]

I am surprised (pleasantly) that there are 3 people who picked the range higher than the one I picked.

 

To those 3 people, way to go.

[jad]

Mid to high eighties. (Like Satan, I "wish, but not with hope.")

[Slasher9]

To those 3 people, way to go.

 

i am forever hopeful.

[Kimmi]

i am forever hopeful.

 

It's the only way to be.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Since there's a good chance the season is going to be 25% shorter, I'd like to revise my answer to 66 or less

[Maxbialystock]

How many games will the Sox win this year?

 

This poll is of course a great idea. I'm pessimist (in the majority) because of the pitching and not because of Mookie's departure.

 

Almost everyone--especially the media commentators--besides me thinks that paying a ton of money for someone like Mookie is the right move, but I continue to point to the example of Bryce Harper, who left the Nationals to join the Phillies. Lo and behold, without Bryce the Nationals won it all and the Phillies didn't improve at all (well, a little: they went from 80-82 to 81-81). I will hasten to add that last season the Phillies fans were just happy to have Bryce for his entertainment value because ticket sales did in fact go up.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

This poll is of course a great idea. I'm pessimist (in the majority) because of the pitching and not because of Mookie's departure.

 

Almost everyone--especially the media commentators--besides me thinks that paying a ton of money for someone like Mookie is the right move, but I continue to point to the example of Bryce Harper, who left the Nationals to join the Phillies. Lo and behold, without Bryce the Nationals won it all and the Phillies didn't improve at all (well, a little: they went from 80-82 to 81-81). I will hasten to add that last season the Phillies fans were just happy to have Bryce for his entertainment value because ticket sales did in fact go up.

 

I get the example of the Nationals that people bring up. But there are also a lot of factors that are different from the Sox' situation, besides the fact that Betts is a better all-around player and helps impact wins in more ways than Harper; among them are that the Nats had a future star replacement already in their outfield in Soto (plus, other young talent like Robles) -- Boston's call-up last summer was Gorkys Hernandez.

 

Then Washington used the Harper savings to sign probably the top free agent pitcher in Corbin (he's not Cole, but the Yanks still went hard after him, and he was the victor in the game that won the World Series). Meanwhile, the Sox used their new financial flexibility to land Colin McHugh. I know... all the good guys were gone by then, but the class of '21 doesn't look promising, either, for prime-time pitchers... Trevor Bow-wow?

 

Anyway, Mookie is gone, and I doubt the Sox even make him a legit offer next winter, so we may have to wait a few years for the acquired prospects to make it and then use the monetary resources to fill in around them. Maybe by then Noah Song will be ready for the Show -- he's not losing much developmental time this year after all.

[Thunder]

At this point, we should change it to winning percentage, since we don't know how many games will be played. Before we got shut down, I was thinking somewhere between 80 and 90, so I probably would have voted for 81-86

[mvp 78]

At this point, we should change it to winning percentage, since we don't know how many games will be played. Before we got shut down, I was thinking somewhere between 80 and 90, so I probably would have voted for 81-86

 

No.

[Thunder]

No.

 

Well that sure makes it hard to debate you

[mvp 78]

Well that sure makes it hard to debate you

 

Yup

[Bellhorn04]

At this point, we should change it to winning percentage, since we don't know how many games will be played. Before we got shut down, I was thinking somewhere between 80 and 90, so I probably would have voted for 81-86

 

We have accountants on staff who will do all the conversions at the end of the season.